Glacier Peak Invitational
2021 — Cascade Commons (Online), WA/US
Public Forum Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideI have been coaching speech and debate for 7 years. I have judged Public Forum debate, Lincoln-Douglas debate, and various speech events in that time.
-Make sure you state your taglines for your contentions clearly. It should be easy for me to flow your cases and keep track of your arguments, so the clearer you can be, the better.
-Provide clear impacts, and focus on impact calculus. Stress these (especially in your final focus or your final rebuttal).
-Weighing your arguments against your opponent's is the key to winning the debate. Clearly state how your arguments outweigh theirs, and again, stress your impacts.
-Please do not spread. If I didn't hear it, then it never happened. If I can't keep track of what you are saying, then it is possible that your opponent cannot either. Speaking clearly is imperative to a fair debate. It will also result in more speaker points.
-If you have a framework, stick with it. If you drop it, there is no purpose for it, and that hurts your arguments more in the long run (especially if your opponent realizes the framework was dropped).
-I do not flow CX. It is your job to bring up what happened in CX in your next speech. That is the only way it will make it onto the flow.
-For LD, make sure your value/criterion is clearly explained at the start of your constructive speech. If you and your opponent have the same value/criterion, or they are similar, it is best to acknowledge this and focus on arguments rather than getting into a framework debate.
-For LD, keep arguments traditional. I'll listen to counter plans and kritiks, but I prefer traditional arguments.
-Please practice good sportsmanship. Being snarky or belittling an opponent, especially if it is clear they are new to debate will not be tolerated.
-To prove you have read my paradigm, simply say "Bear Down" or "Go Wildcats" prior to starting the round.
Timing:
Please be prepared to time yourself.
For speeches:
If this is a prompt-based speech, please state your prompt before you begin and report your time when you are done.
For debates:
Docs
Please send your case doc or outline - dinaberry@outlook.com
Speaking
. Speak clearly and not too fast. Slow down on major points, value, criteria, framework, definition, etc. What about spreading? If I can't flow, I can't judge. If you need to insert that much material into the round, you need to provide the outline of that material, at a minimum. In four years of judging, I've only seen one round decided on the sheer volume of evidence introduced and counter arguements and that round didn't have spreading.
. Sign post, then stick to it. If you jump around, I can't follow you. If you drop a point, don't pick it up in another speech.
. Provide outline: numbering and lettering points, impacts, etc, so I can track.
Case/Framework/Debate
. If you run an unusual case/framework/K - you have to uphold it. You can't just say here it is and that the other side isn't allowed to argue it. This is a debate, so let's debate.
. If you say the sky is green, fine with me, cite reputable sources, and debate it.
. If you run your case without sources, everything you said is your opinion and doesn't win against even the worst sources cited by the opposition.
- For L/D, if you concede framework to your opponent, and the framework argument from the opponent is clear, then framework above contentions. If you don't want to argue framework, go debate policy.
. All common historical context currently taught in Washington State high schools is allowed (ex: The holocaust happened). All obscure or controversial fiction-as-fact must be upheld with reputable and current sources (ex: Jan 6 was just a misunderstanding from a reputable world-wide source).
Poetry/Art/etc as debate
If a case is presented in a format that you haven't seen before or understand how it is relevant to the topic, please use your cross to clarify. Then debate it. Everyone had the same time to prep/research. Now you need to think on your feet.
Meta such as role of the ballot, drop the debate, drop the debater
Role of the ballot - I enjoy ROTB arguments
Drop the debate - make a very strong case
Drop the debator - there must be a clear and obvious ethical or moral breach in the round. I don't drop the debater because they haven't understood the importance of something you said to them on a personal level within the pressure and speed of the round. If you request drop the debator - then you need to walk me through the violation slowly because you've just rested the entire round on this one point and I need to understand it.
Topicality
Meh - a topicality argument needs to be strong with subpoints. Don't say something isn't topical. Walk me through it.
Voting/decisions
If you skip voters, or assume voters based on debate, then I get to choose. Probably not what you want me to do.
If your opponent doesn't literally concede a point, but instead drops it or doesn't argue it in a way you deem valid, do NOT say they conceded. That is disrespectful to both the judge and your opponent.
I am a parent judge from The Overlake School, Redmond, Washington. I have judged public forum form of debate for the last 3 years.
I like a clear and concise flow of arguments that ties to your case and advocates for your position as well as refutes your opponents’ arguments. I do not deduct points on speed and lack of speaking skills unless it impedes my understanding of your arguments.
Offline roadmaps and voters narrow down and bring into focus your mindset so they are helpful. I want you to be telling me why I should vote for you, through your logical construct and why your arguments are convincing enough to give you that win since often at this level, both teams are equally passionate about their respective sides and have worked on their cases.
I believe that through debate, students learn valuable lessons and I seek to be fair so will pull up any student who tries not to follow conventions during cross-examination rounds and are rude. Argue passionately, have fun yet be respectful of your opponents’ ideas and convictions. You are here because you enjoy being here and I respect you for that.
I will judge based upon these 5 not distinct but interconnecting categories.
Presentation: Claim/Impact (power or influence, compassion, convince)
Argument: Evidence/Knowledge (No Spreading/Quality not Quantity)
Description: Delivery (No Spreading/ Logic)
Refutation: Responses/ Discreting the opposition
Structure: Team Balance
Couple of notes.
*It is okay to pause to take a deep breath.
*Try to stick with 3 or 4 points that bolster your case. For me, judging is about having thirst for knowledge on a topic. Blasting me with a firehose of data doesn't necessarily quench my thirst.
*I am currently working in a high school library, which I love. Yay books!
I am active in the competitive storytelling community -- like The Moth, for example. In fact, I have won six Moth story slams. Prior to moving to the Seattle area, I lived in New York, worked on Wall Street and hosted The Dawn Patrol, a financial news show in Times Square.
I am a parent and a lawyer by training. I have made and heard many arguments over time, although not in the area of school debates.
•Speed: Do not speak too fast. It is more important to present your contentions and evidence clearly and concisely. •Organization: Clarity and structure are important to me. Roadmaps are helpful.
•Final focus: Please, no surprises.
•Common decency:
Respect your judge. Respect your partner. Respect your opponent.
Avoid name-calling (EX: saying your opponent or an argument is stupid). That’s rude and also lazy debating.
Avoid yelling matches in crossfire.
Let your opponent finish their argument when possible without interrupting.
About me: she/her pronouns. I am a parent judge, this is my fourth tournament overall, and my first tournament with this resolution.
Speaking: Please talk slowly and explain your points thoroughly, if I don't understand your point I won't be able to vote on it. All logic-based arguments need to be supported with evidence from the beginning.
Please deliver your speeches and crossfires calmly and professionally - don't argue like it's life or death, I know you made a case for the other side that you would argue just as passionately for. Be polite to your opponents.
When you are delivering your case please enumerate your subpoints clearly as subpoint A, subpoint B, etc.. In all your speeches please signpost.
In terms of granting speaker points, I look for respect, knowledge of the resolution, and clear speaking and communication skills. Other things I look for are clever questions in crossfire, signposting, extensions of arguments throughout the round that respond to any rebuttals an opponent offers, and clear delineation of voters.
Timing: I trust you to time your own speeches and prep time. Asking for an evidence card counts as your own prep time once you receive the card. If an argument or piece of evidence is especially contested or unbelievable, I may ask for a card at the end of the round.
How I choose the winner: I will be deciding the winner based on the arguments that were carried throughout the round, the respectful rebuttals, and what stands as the biggest impacts at the end. In order to do that I have to be be able to clearly hear and process what you are saying - please speak slowly and clearly. Tell me what to vote for in both your summary speech and final focus.
Good luck!
About me: (He/Him Pronouns) second-year law student at UW. I debated PF for 3 years on local and national circuits. I coached for 4 years after I graduated
If you have questions about the round or my RFD, just email me at: rjl2000@uw.edu Or, text me at 253-683-1929
About round: SHOW UP TO THE ROUND ASAP AND I WILL BE HAPPY AND MORE LIKELY TO GIVE GOOD SPEAKS
speed is fine as long as I can understand you. Please do not full on spread though it's annoying.
I won't vote on anything that's not brought up in final focus. If you want to bring something up in final focus, it should be extended in summary as well.
If your opponents drop something, tell me. Don't just not mention something from your case until your last speech. Its more important to me that you weigh the most important things in the round as opposed to just summarizing everything that happened. Tell me why you're winning in final focus. voters, impact calculus, and weighing are super helpful. If you want to run framework tell me why I should use it. I'll look at any evidence if you want me to, I might call for something if I feel its necessary but I generally try to avoid evidence debates.
Throughout the round, confidence, humor, and aggression are good, while rudeness, bigotry, and general meanness are not. If you think that your attempt at the first category will be interpreted as the second category, error on the side of caution.
SIGN POST PLEASE!!!!- this is like the biggest thing. signposting will help me help you on my flow.
I would prefer no theory/progressive argumentation. If you do decide to run something like that, it better be very important and not just an attempt to get an easy W over people that don't know what's going on.
Specific speech stuff: This is what I would LIKE to see in a high-quality round. Do your best to do these things, but I obviously don't expect all of this from novice debaters.
For 1st rebuttal just solely respond to the opponent's case- please don't go back to your case because I just heard it and there are no responses on it yet. This goes for both rebuttals, but numbering your responses if there are multiple will help me stay organized on the flow
For 2nd rebuttal: Frontline!!!! if you don't mention the main arguments against your case, it'll probably be considered dropped.
Summary: Same thing as second rebuttal in the sense you should be bringing up the main arguments from the previous speech and refuting them. Anything that you don't want your opponent to be able to say "They dropped our __ in summary" should be mentioned
if you want to bring up something in FF, it must be brought up in summary
Collapsing is a good way to ensure you are able to extend all the defense you need and still get offense.
FF: Voters! tell me where to vote! extend some defense if you want, but this speech should mostly be about the places you are winning on the flow and why
weighing is also good
Things that are bad and you should not do:
CALL FOR EVIDENCE/TAKE PREP BEFORE BOTH TEAMS HAVE READ THEIR CASES1! (ex: taking prep as second speaking team before you read your case) super abusive, try-hard, and annoying. If you do this, the max speaker points you can earn is 26. (yes that is arbitrary, too bad.)
Do that really annoying thing that happens in debate where you just keep restating your argument and then saying that refutes your opponents' argument. In rebuttal, your arguments should have warrents. In later speeches, you should explain to me WHY your argument is better than theirs.
Not signpost
overall, i'm experienced so do whatever you want, just do it well.
if you have any further questions please ask.
Don't talk over each other in crossfire
Please be respectful of the time
Outline your points before going into details
Slow and clear is better than fast and mumbled
As you cite evidence, put them in text in a docs or in chat
I am focusing on how logically you formulated points (e.g. each point don't overlap. each point could either be independent or sequential or temporal order; ultimately those are your arguments that collectively help people to understand your perspective). I also put almost equal weights over credibility of your data points and how it connects to each point you are making.
While delivery is important, my main focus is contents.
I am a parent judge and this is my 2nd year judging PF. I am open to any arguments and rebuttals but will be specifically looking for arguments that are supported by evidence and will rely on you to demonstrate the impact and calculate the numbers (where appropriate). I am looking for you to flow your arguments and rebut your opponents arguments. Please do not leave your opponent's contentions hanging without a rebuttal.
While I will weigh the round, I am looking for you to provide you point-of-view and will certainly take that into consideration.
Lastly, please be respectful (I will deduct points if you are not), have fun and speak slow enough so that I can understand you. Compelling arguments with evidence and impact are more important than speed and volume.
Hello debaters! I am a parent judge, but I have some experience with PF judging. Keep in mind that I am not a tech judge, I don’t value spreading, don’t talk extremely fast. I will be flowing in every speech, so dropped points are going to weigh very high. Please signpost, it makes everything much cleaner. Terminology is not my strong suit and if you say something like “that’s wrong because Mendel 18 delinks” and move on, that’s not something which would effectively do much for your side. Reconstructions are also important!Logical constructive and rebuttals will be impactful to me, and in final focus tell me why your impacts outweigh but don’t read outrageous impacts just because no one’s going to respond to it. Good luck!
If you have a question about anything covered or not covered in the paradigm, please ask! I don't mind at all.
Background
I did pf in high school and I do APDA now.
General Stuff
tech over truth + tabula rasa. (this is probably the only part of my paradigm you have to care about)
extending a card in final focus is not the same as a voter. neither is just telling me that your opponents dropped something. weighing and characterization of arguments are important (otherwise I have to intervene and arbitrarily impose my own weighing as a judge-- judge intervention = bad). offense dropped in summary is dropped for the round, defense is sticky but less mitigatory if it's not extended.
90% of public forum is stock pragmatic args carded with questionable evidence. ethics arguments are totally welcome, and in my opinion they make the activity more fun + move it forward. every case has an implicit philosophical framework-- engaging with that framework provides extra depth and allows you to frame-out many of your opponent's ideas. creative arguments are great! but make sure they are well-warranted, well-carded, etc.
evidence is important, but it's not the holy grail. given two competing claims, one of which is carded but not warranted and one of which is warranted but not carded, I am not going to automatically prefer the claim w/ evidence. I was a 2nd speaker in high school, so I know how easy it is to just dump a bunch of your blockfile into a four minute speech and call it a rebuttal-- make sure you actually engage with their case on the line-by-line.
if you're kicking an argument, explicitly concede defense or uniqueness analysis, don't just say "we are kicking x argument"
backlash is usually not a good argument. obviously I will still vote on it, but please please explain to my why I should care.
Evidence Ethics
I really don't want to have to call for cards but I will if necessary (i.e. there are 2 competing claims, neither of which is clearly winning, about a piece of evidence)
It's really easy to get away with miscutting evidence/using sketchy evidence in general. please don't.
Speed
speed ok, but please do not spread in pf.
Theory
I firmly believe that debate is a game, and that the judge's role is to evaluate arguments without unnecessary intervention. that being said, I think some norms are good for the community in general, and while I disagree with the role of the ballot as an "educating" force I think judges ought to check back against some kinds of in-round abuse.
that applies to obvious stuff like outright racism, sexism, and so on-- just don't do it. I will drop you if you do it. It also applies to theory. I WILL vote on theory (obviously), but I am not a fan of frivolous theory in pf (i.e. shoes theory, etc.) I will probably not vote on it, and your speaker scores will not be good.
I honestly don't know how I feel about kritiks in pf. convince me i guess.
Speaks
I give speaks based on your contribution to the round, not your ability to sound like a politician. that being said, the more entertaining the round is to judge the more likely debaters are to have high speaks-- creativity and cleverness are a big part of debate imo.
-First-time Parent Judge
-Prefer clarity and extending impacts
TL;DR
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Be kind in all that you do.
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I flow but not particularly well (especially the back half) and generally will not evaluate arguments that I don't understand, so please collapse and make sure you clearly extend your warranting.
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I am generally okay with spreading as long as I get a speech doc.
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I have a slight preference for truth over tech. My brightline here isn’t totally clear so you’re probably best playing it safe.
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Under no circumstances will I vote for a "death good" argument and under very few circumstances will I vote for an "oppression good" argument. Pretty much every other type of argument is fine.
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Theory should only be run for legitimate norms and legitimate violations. Running stuff like “tall people theory” or “formal clothes theory” almost guarantees a loss.
- For email chain purposes: thadhsmith13@gmail.com
Background
I’ve been a member of the debating world for about eight years now. As a competitor, I saw some success at the state and national level in Public Forum, Lincoln Douglas, and World Schools, qualifying for the state championship four times and placing 10th at Nats in 2019. I also competed in BP debate at the university level in England. I am currently an assistant coach for American Heritage School - Broward.
I have a Bachelor’s degree in Political Science and Gender, Sexuality, & Race Studies. I have a Master’s degree in Theory and Practice of Human Rights. You can expect me to have more than the average level of knowledge in those areas. I like to think that I know about as much as the average person on most other things, but for economic arguments (or anything involving math) I get lost easily. Do with that what you will!
Evidence ethics
I have voted on evidence ethics violations in the past, both with and without competitors calling them out in round. Straw arguments, aggressive ellipses, and brackets could all be round-enders.
Don't paraphrase! I will be very open to cut cards theory, direct quotes theory, or anything else like that. If you do paraphrase, you need to be able to provide a cut card or the exact quote you're referencing if evidence is called. It's not a reasonable expectation for your opponents or I to have to scrub through a webpage or a long document searching for your evidence.
Public Forum
I find myself leaning more and more truth > tech, especially with the state of evidence ethics these days. It's really important for you to explain the link chain and somewhat important for you to explain things like author credibility/study methodology, especially for big impact contentions.
Line-by-line rebuttal is really important in the front half of the round. That means you should be frontlining in second rebuttal, respond to arguments in an order that makes logical sense, and actively extend your own arguments. For an extension to be effective you need to tell me what the argument is, how it works, and why it's important. You can almost always do this in three sentences or less. These pieces are important - I don't flow evidence names, so saying something like "Hendrickson solves" without an explanation does nothing for you.
Fiat is pretty much always a thing - There's a reason Public Forum topics usually ask "is this policy a good idea" and not "will this thing happen." My view of fiat is that it lets the debate take place on a principles level and creates a "comparative" between a world with a policy and a world without a policy. That said, politics arguments can work, but only if they relate to a political consequence of a policy being enacted and not if they try and say a policy will never happen in the first place.
Kritiks and theory are fine in PF. Be mindful of your time constraints. For kritiks, focus on explaining how your cards work and what the alternative is. For theory, make sure there's a legitimate violation and that it's something you're willing to bet the round on. Theory exists to create norms. I won’t vote on frivolous theory and I won’t vote on your shell if you aren’t actively embodying the norm you’re proposing.
Flex prep does not exist. “Open” crossfires don’t exist. As a whole, crossfire doesn’t matter that much but you still shouldn’t contradict yourself between cross and speech.
Lincoln-Douglas
I really enjoy a good framework debate and it’s something that I find is missing from a lot of modern LD rounds. One of the best parts of LD is getting to see how different philosophies engage with each other, and we’re gonna see that thru framing. I do my best to evaluate the framework debate at the very top and use it as my primary decision-making mechanism. Framing doesn't have to be done with a value/criterion if you'd rather run a K or Theory or something else, but you need to five me a role of the ballot if you don't use a value/criterion.
Please don’t spread philosophy or theory if you want me to flow it - I read and write it all the time and I still barely understand it, so I’m not going to understand what you’re saying if you’re going 500 words per minute. If you must spread your framework or K, send me the case or be prepared to explain it again next speech.
I’m fine with condo, fiat, and counterplans. Please don’t paraphrase and don't rehighlight.
"Debate bad" arguments are pretty weird. I probably won't vote on them because, at the most fundamental level, you're still participating in a debate round and perpetuating whatever core "harm" of debate that you're talking about. If your alternative is a reasonable alternative or reform instead of just "don't do debate", I could be persuaded, but you've got an uphill battle.
Congress
If you have me as your parli, there are two things you need to know about me: I love Robert's Rules of Order and I hate one-sided debate. Ignore these things at your own risk. Other important things, in no particular order:
- Display courtesy to your fellow competitors and do your best to ensure that everyone in the chamber is heard. I pay attention to pre-round, in-round, and post-round politics.
- Engagement with the other speakers is important, both through questions and through in-speech references. Every speech past the author/sponsor needs to have rebuttal or extension of some kind.
- Authorships/sponsorships (there's no such thing as a "first affirmative") need to explain exactly what the bill does. Don't assume I'll read the packet.
- Good Congress rounds have a narrative arc - The first few speeches should present core arguments and frame the round, the next few speeches should be heavy on refutation and extension, and the final few speeches should crystallize the debate.
- Many things that people do in-round have no basis in either the rules or parliamentary procedure. Many motions don't exist - There are no motions to "address the chamber," "open the floor for debate," "amend the agenda," or "impeach the presiding officer." You can't rescind a seconded motion (or a second), you can't object to a motion to move the previous question, most tournaments don't have a requirement to track question recency, elections should really be handled by the parli, etc.
- At this point, I've heard every canned intro under the sun. If I hear you use the same exact intro on multiple different bills/rounds, or the same intro as a dozen other people, or the same unfunny meta-references with random names subbed in, you are getting docked speech points. It takes barely any effort to come up with an intro that's relevant to your content.
World Schools
The most important thing for you to do is to remember the purpose of your speech. Your speech should not be defined by the "line-by-line," rather, you should have a clear idea or set of ideas that you are trying to get across and I should be able to understand what those ideas were at the end of your speech. I am a big believer in the "World Schools style," meaning that I like it when debaters lean into the concept of being representatives in a global governing body, when debaters deploy flowery rhetoric about grand ideals, and when debaters spend a lot of time establishing and engaging with the framework/definitions/plan for the debate.
Theory
I'm fine with theory as long as it's a legitimate norm and a legitimate violation. Don't run frivolous theory (I'm not going to vote on something like "debaters should sit during their speeches", for example) and don't run theory if it isn't a norm you're actively doing yourself (don't run disclosure theory if you didn't disclose either). I don't have a preference on DtD vs. DtA or Competing Interpretations vs. Responsibility. I lean rather heavily towards theory being a RVI, especially in PF debates where it often becomes the only argument in the round.
I'm ambivalent about trigger warnings. I'm not going to be the arbiter of somebody else's experience and there's not much evidence that they're actually harmful in any meaningful way. Be aware that simply saying "trigger warning" tells us nothing - If you have one, be specific (but not graphic) about the potentially triggering content.
Kritiks
Kritiks are an incredibly powerful education tool that let debaters bring light to important issues. That said, you do need a link, preferably a resolutional/case one. I'm not opposed to hearing kritiks that tackle the structure of debate as a whole, but I think that it's difficult for you to justify that while also participating in the structure (especially because I've seen the same debaters participate in debate rounds without talking about these structural issues). Just like theory, you should be talking about legitimate issues, not just trying to win a round.
Death Good/Oppression Good
"Death good" is a nonstarter in front of me. I get it - I was a high school debater too, and I have vivid memories of running the most asinine arguments possible because I thought it would be a path to a technical victory. As I've stepped away from competition, entered the role of an educator, and (especially) as I've become immersed in human rights issues indirectly through my research and personally through my work, I no longer hold the same view of these arguments. I've been in rounds where judges and the audience are visibly, painfully uncomfortable with one side's advocacy. I've voted on the flow and felt sick doing it. I don't anymore. Do not run "death good" in front of me unless you want a loss and 20 speaks. It's not good education, it actively creates an unsafe space, and its often incredibly callous to actual, real-world human suffering.
"Oppression good" is also generally bad but I can at least see a potential case here, kinda? Probably best to avoid anyway.
As a new-ish parent judge so please talk slowly and clearly. Make a rational and compelling argument delivered with clarity. This is a debate so confront and address the side's ideas and don't just talk past them with your own ideas. Have fun with it! :)
At this point in the year, I would like to see eye contact made with either myself or the opposing team member(s). Speak slowly and succinctly. Get your ideas across thoughtfully. It is more important to get two points made well, then 5 points made in a run-on speech.
Most important, of course, is to respond to the opposing team's points.
1. Your arguments should have quantifiable impacts if you want to win; qualitative impacts will not be sufficient in most cases
2. I I cannot hear or compile your argument(s), I might not be able to judge it for correctness or completeness. Therefore, do not spread
3. Use logic to win your argument, pathos will not work with me
Parent judge (college professor) looking for clarity of speech and arguments.
Winners determined by relative impact of arguments that flowed through debate.
I'm a lay judge. No spreading in rounds please. I will not be disclosing, please don't ask me about it, if I have anything I wanna say it'll be on the ballot
I will not be keeping track of time, Please keep your rounds clean and organized, I will not take cross ex Into consideration, if your opponents fails to answer your questions, bring it up in the next speech and tell me why it matters.
Off-time roadmaps are fine, please do some weighing and explain the voters, it'll make my life a lot easier.
Overall I will most likely vote on the team that better explains their arguments instead of just dumping a bunch of cards at me. k that's it.
please don't ask if the judge is ready, thank you!