Rosemount Irish Invitational
2020 — Online, MN/US
PF Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideMy background is predominantly college-level Parliamentary Debate, so in Public Forum, I tend to view the resolution as a "plan" that the judge is either accepting or declining. This means that I expect the Con side to provide at least some offense against the resolution rather than simply mitigating the Pro's arguments. This applies to Lincoln-Douglass as well, but obviously is not tied to cost-benefit analysis or "plan" assessment.
I view debate as the clashing of two opposing narratives. What is the story that your case is telling? What threats does the opponent's case pose to that story? In the end, I make my decision based off of whose core narrative remains standing and is most compelling at the end of the round.
I don't care for quibbling over sources/cards/formalities, unless the question directly relates to the credibility of the source. I don't mind speed. I am OK with "circuit" elements such as Kritiks and spreading, but these obviously do not automatically warrant a win.
Lincoln-Douglass is, at its core, a clashing of moral narratives. Practicality and plans are not necessary for victory; the debater who links the resolution to their value and criterion wins. The core question is, should we morally do [insert resolution here], not "is it a good idea".
I will only disclose if all four involved parties state a desire for it prior to the commencement of the round. If even one person does not want the results of the round to be disclosed immediately afterward, I will not do so. During disclosure, I do my best to talk through my thought process as the debate was going on - the specific arguments that stood out to me as most important, and the way they were argued. As a former debater, I know how frustrating it is when you feel like your judge didn't actually hear the statements and arguments you made, and it is my goal to tell you what I actually heard because I can't always follow or make the connections you think I'm making.
1. I am generally predisposed to teams that feel like they are attempting to persuade me, the judge, vs. exclusively their opponent. Many debates get too deeply into the weeds and fail to provide some kind of clear, overarching narrative — similarly, individual arguments are too often under warranted, with no analysis, and without a clear resolution of existing clash. Debate, to me, feels the most valuable and enjoyable when the skills demonstrated seem transferable / relevant to real-life argumentation and discourse — this means accurately tagged arguments that are developed throughout the round and rebuttals that show clear engagement with the content of opponent’s arguments. I prefer summaries that are not pseudo-rebuttals and that clearly explicate the narrative of the team while also providing offensively-minded voters and substantive weighing.
2. Evidence / in-round ethics are both extremely important to me. If at any point it becomes clear that a team is mis-representing, mis-labeling or otherwise abusing evidence, there will be a severe reduction in speaker points. I am also open to dropping the team if it seems like it’s given them an unfair competitive advantage. Because of all this, I am generally against paraphrasing unless the paraphrased content absolutely adheres to the content of the original source.
3. In-round civility is extremely important to me. Teams that are overly aggressive in crossfire, steal prep, go well over on time, or take forever when pulling up evidence will have reduced speaker points. Teams that cross over from rudeness into racism, sexism, homophobia, classism, etc… will be dropped (this includes arguments that contain racist, sexist, etc...warranting)
4. I understand the necessity for speed and heavily truncated argumentation in some rounds but generally have an overwhelming preference for a conversational pace and clear analysis. As such, I dislike the use of debate jargon and overuse of debate community patter (“A couple problems here” “This evidence is really, really clear!” “Recognize -”).
5. I will do my best to vote strictly off the flow but even within that paradigm it’s impossible to remain absolutely divorced from some degree of subjective decision-making over the course of a round. Thus, as with any judge, whether explicitly stated or not, I’m going to be heavily predisposed to the arguments that make coherent sense to me, starting from the constructive. Too many rebuttals and cases feel like ransom notes in which two or three words from thousands of evidence sources have been copy and pasted together to form something borderline incoherent. To put it another way — I’m not against surprising or novel argumentation but if something seems fake, it’ll feel weaker to me in a round. That being said, I want to limit judge intervention as much as possible and will do everything possible to not incorporate things external to what’s been argued in the round.
The best debates I’ve seen always seem to leave both debaters feeling like they’ve had fun. I’m confident that fulfilling these five preferences will lead to a strong round more often than not. Thank you!
Addition: I’m open to Ks and other kinds of experimental debate. I haven’t had a lot of experience judging them and the ones I’ve seen have generally been deeply unconvincing but I’m not against them at all
Eagan High School, Public Forum Coach (2018-Present), National Debate Forum (2016-2019), Theodore Roosevelt High School, Public Forum Coach (2014-2018)
She/Her Pronouns
Also technically my name is now Mollie Clark Ahsan but it's a pain to change on tabroom :)
Always add me to your email chain - mollie.clark.mc@gmail.com
Flowing
I consider myself a flow judge HOWEVER the narrative of your advocacy is hugely important. If you are organized, clean, clear and extending good argumentation well, you will do well. One thing that I find particularly valuable is having a strong and clear advocacy and a narrative on the flow. This narrative will help you shape responses and create a comparative world that will let you break down and weigh the round in the Final Focus. I really dislike blippy arguments so try to condense the round (kick out of stuff you don't go for) and make sure you use your time efficiently.
Extensions
Good and clean warrant and impact extensions are what will most likely win you the round. Extensions are the backbones of debate, a high-level debater should be able to allocate time and extend their offense and defense effectively. Defense is NOT sticky— defense that is unextended is dropped. Similarly, offense (including your link chain and impact) that is unextended is dropped.
Evidence
Ethical use and cutting of evidence is incredibly important to me, while debate may be viewed as a game it takes place in the real world with real implications. It matters that we accurately represent what's happening in the world around us. Please follow all pertinent tournament rules and regulations - violations are grounds for a low-point-win or a loss. Rules for NSDA tournaments can be found at https://www.speechanddebate.org/high-school-unified-manual/.
Speed, Speaking, & Unconventional Issues
- I can flow next to everything in PF but that does not mean that it's always strategically smart. Your priority should be to be clear. Make sure you enunciate so that your opponent can understand you, efficiency and eloquence in later speeches will define your speaks.
- Please be polite and civil and it is everyone’s responsibility to de-escalate the situation as much as possible when it grows too extreme. I really dislike yelling and super-aggressive crossfire in particular. Understand your privileges and use that to respect and empower others.
- Trigger/content warnings are appreciated when relevant.
- Theory and K debate are not my favorite, but I'll hear you out and evaluate it in the round. But talking to folks I'm pretty convinced that I'd enjoy a round with a performance K! So please consider this an invitation (though note that I really only want to see it if you're really passionate about it and truly believe in it).
- If push comes to shove I'm technically tech>truth with the caveat that I believe strongly that debate has real-world implications. So I reserve some discretion to deal with arguments that are outrageous or harmful in a more traditional PF way.
Speaker Point Breakdown
30: Excellent job, you demonstrate stand-out organizational skills and speaking abilities. Ability to use creative analytical skills and humor to simplify and clarify the round.
29: Very strong ability. Eloquent, good analysis, and strong organization. A couple minor stumbles or drops.
28: Above average. Good speaking ability. May have made a larger drop or flaw in argumentation but speaking skills compensate. Or, very strong analysis but weaker speaking skills.
27: About average. Ability to function well in the round, however analysis may be lacking. Some errors made.
26: Is struggling to function efficiently within the round. Either lacking speaking skills or analytical skills. May have made a more important error.
25: Having difficulties following the round. May have a hard time filling the time for speeches. Large error.
Below: Extreme difficulty functioning. Very large difficulty filling time or offensive or rude behavior.
Preface
Speech and Debate are educational activities. My goal as a judge is to pick the debater(s) who best argues their case or the speaker(s) who best meet the criteria of a given event. But I also am seeking a round that is educational. Abusive arguments and rhetoric have no place in debate. Treat each other with kindness. We are all here to learn and expand our knowledge and experience. Racist, sexist, ableist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, etc. arguments should not be made. Everyone is welcome in the debate community, do not marginalize and silence folks with your argumentation.
Also, since speech and debate are educational activities, feel free to ask me questions after the round. I'm here to help educate as well. As long as we have time before the next round has to start (and I've got enough time to submit my ballot before Zach Prax comes looking for me), then I'm always happy to answer questions.
Background
Director of Debate at Wayzata High School (MN) since Sept. 2020, I've been coaching and judging locally and nationally since 2013. I also coach speech at Wayzata and at the University of Minnesota.
I am a licensed, practicing attorney. I work as a criminal prosecutor for a local county in Minnesota and I have a MA in Strategic Intelligence and Analysis with a concentration in International Relations and Diplomacy.
Likes
- Voters and weighing. I don't want to have to dig back through my flow to figure out what your winning arguments were. If you're sending me back through the flow, you're putting way too much power in my hands.Please, please, please make your voters clear.
- Clear sign posting and concise taglines.
- Framework. I like a solid framework. If you have a weighing mechanism, state it clearly and provide a brief explanation.
- Unique arguments. Debate is an educational activity, so you should be digging deep in your research and finding unique arguments. If you have a unique impact, bring it in. I judge a lot of rounds and I get tired of hearing the same case over and over and over again.
Dislikes
-Just referencing evidence by the card name (author, source, etc.). When I flow, I care more about what the evidence says, not who the specific source was. If you want to reference the evidence later, you gotta tell me what the evidence said, not who said it.
-Off-time roadmaps are often a waste of time. If all you are doing is telling me that the Neg Rebuttal is "our case their case" then you don't need to tell me that. If you are going to go FW, then some cross-application, then your case, then their case, then back to FW, then that is something you should tell me. More importantly SIGN POST, SIGN POST, SIGN POST.
-SPEED. This is Public Forum, not Policy. If you spread, you're probably going to lose. I flow on my computer so that I can get as much on my flow as possible, but if you're too fast and unclear, it's not on my flow. If it's not on my flow, it's not evaluated in the round.
-Evidence misrepresentation. If there is any question between teams on if evidence has been used incorrectly, I will request to see the original document and the card it was read from to compare the two. If you don't have the original, then I will assume it was cut improperly and judge accordingly.
-Shouting over each other on CX. Keep it civil. Don't monopolize the time.
-"Grandstanding" on CX. CX is for you to ask questions, not give a statement in the form of a question. Ask short, simple questions and give concise answers.
-One person taking over on Grand CX. All four debaters should fully participate. If you aren't participating, then I assume it's because you do not have anything more to add to the debate and/or that you aren't actively involved in the debate and I likely will adjust speaks accordingly.
-K cases. I do not like them in public forum, especially if they are not topical. However, a K that is topical and actually engages with the topic and is generally within the topic meta is something I *may* vote off of. But it must be topical, otherwise I will not vote off the argument.
-Loud, annoying, alarms at the end of speeches. Especially the rooster crow. Please no rooster crow.
-Speaking of timers, if you're going to critique your opponents for going over time, you should probably make sure that you aren't going over time yourself. Also, you don't need to turn your timer to show me that your opponent is over time. I'm aware of their time, it just comes across as rude.
General
-I'm generally a flow judge, but I don't always flow card authors/names. My focus on the flow is getting what the evidence claims and what the warrant is, rather than who the source was. Referring back to your "Smith" card isn't enough, but giving a quick paraphrasing of the previously cited card, along with the author/source is much more beneficial and effective. Similarly, "Harvard" is a collegiate institution, not an author. Harvard doesn't write anything. Harvard doesn't publish anything. They may have a publishing company or a magazine that publishes, but Harvard does not, and last time I checked, John Harvard has been dead since 1638, so I doubt he has anything pertinent to support your argumentation.
-I'm an expressive person. I'll make a face if I believe you misstated something. I'll nod if I think you're making a good point. I'll shake my head if I think you're making a poor point. This doesn't mean that I'm voting for you or against you. It just means I liked or didn't like that particular statement.
-I like CX, so I tend to allow you to go over time a bit on CX, particularly if team A asks team B a question right before time in order to prevent them from answering. I'll let them answer the question.
-Evidence Exchanges. If you are asked for evidence, provide it in context. If they ask for the original, provide the original. I won't time prep until you've provided the evidence, and I ask that neither team begins prepping until the evidence has been provided. If it takes too long to get the original text, I will begin docking prep time for the team searching for the evidence and will likely dock speaker points. It is your job to come to the round prepared, and that includes having all your evidence readily accessible.
-If anything in my paradigm is unclear, ask before the round begins. I'd rather you begin the debate knowing what to expect rather than complain later!
Lincoln Douglas
I'm a PF coach, however I judge LD frequently and I often assist LD students throughout the season.
- I find that it is best to treat me as a "flay" judge... I will flow, but I'm lay. I am very familiar with most of the traditional value/criterion/standards. If you have some new LD tech that is popular on the circuit or something, then I'm probably not the judge for you to run that, unless you are going to fully explain it out because I probably don't know it.
- Speed kills. I do not want to have to strain myself trying to flow your speech. I do not want you to email me your case in order for me to be able to follow it. As noted above in the PF section, if I do not get it on my flow, it probably does not end up impacting the round. I am not afraid to say speed or clear, but by the time I realize I have to say it, it's probably too late for you.
- K debate. I really have no interest in judging a K.
Congress
- I really want some speech variety from y'all. Often, when I'm judging a congress round, I'm serving as a parliamentarian so I'm with you for several sessions. As a result, I should be able to get to see you do a variety of different speeches. I actually have a spreadsheet I use to track everyone's speeches throughout the round, what number speech they gave on each bill, which side they argue for, how often they speak, etc. After the round is over and I'm preparing my ballot, I will consult that to see whether you gave a variety of speech types. Were you consistently in the first group of speakers? Did you give mid-round speeches where you bring clash and direct refutation? Did you mainly give crystallization speeches? Or, did you do a mix of it all? You should be striving to be in the last category. Congress is not about proving you can give the best prepared speech or that you can crystallize every bill. It's about showing how well-rounded you are.
- Speaking of prepared speeches. My opinion is that you should only come in with a fully prepared speech if you are planning to give the authorship/sponsorship or the very first negative speech. After that, your speeches should be no more than 50% canned and the rest should be extemporaneous. This is a debate event. It is not a speech event. Prepared speeches in the mid and late stages of debate are a disservice to yourself and your fellow congresspersons.
- PREP. I have judged a lot of congress over the years. I've judged prelims, elims, and finals at NSDA, NCFL, and the TOC. I am frankly COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY TIRED of y'all having to take a 10+ minute break in between every piece of legislation to either A) prep speeches; B) establish perfect balance between aff and neg; or, C) do research on the bill. A and C really frustrate me. I know y'all are busy. I know that sometimes legislation comes out only a few days before the tournament. And I know that sometimes there are a lot of pieces of legislation to research. But y'all should be spending time to prepare your arguments and have research so that all you're doing mid-round is finding evidence to refute or extend something that happened in the round. And the way tournaments are structured these days, it is rare for a round to have so many people in the chamber that not everyone can speak on a bill.
Hi debaters, I know this is a new experience trying to debate online, so I will be as understanding as possible. Here is a couple tips to be successful in a round with me as your judge: 1. You must debate the resolution. I will not listen to kritiks or theory. 2. Fast speed can be very difficult to understand especially in this online format, so instead I would prefer a couple of well-elaborated responses that are clearly explained. 3. Truth > Tech. Although being technical is good stylistically, I still prefer truthful arguments that make me care. Lastly, don't forget to have fun.
Name: Tom Fones
School Affiliation: SPA
Number of Years Judging Public Forum: 13
Number of Years Competing in Public Forum: 0
Number of Years Judging Other Forensic Activities: 33
Number of Years Competing in Other Forensic Activities: 6
If you are a coach, what events do you coach?
What is your current occupation? Retired Teacher and Coach
Please share your opinions or beliefs about how the following play into a debate round:
Speed of Delivery: Need to be understandable, prefer slower than most.
The format of Summary Speeches (line by line? big picture?) Big Picture. Prefer collapse to major issues.
Role of the Final Focus- Show voting issues and weigh.
Extension of Arguments into later speeches- Need to extend arguments to impact them.
Topicality- If needed.
Plans Not explicit plans in PF.
Kritiks- Will listen
Flowing/note-taking- Of course flowing, but the content is important, so a drop is not fatal without significant impact.
Do you value argument over style? Style over argument? Argument and style equally? Argument over style
If a team plans to win the debate on an argument, in your opinion does that argument have to be extended in the rebuttal or summary speeches? yes
If a team is second speaking, do you require that the team cover the opponents’ case as well as answers to its opponents’ rebuttal in the rebuttal speech? Don’t require, but think it’s generally good strategy.
Do you vote for arguments that are first raised in the grand crossfire or final focus? No
If you have anything else you'd like to add to better inform students of your expectations and/or experience, please do so here.
I greatly appreciate civility and clear analysis of issues. There is no need for an off-time roadmap in PF.
I was a Public Forum debater at Eagan High School and debated for three years!
TLDR; To win my ballot win on the warrants, narrative, and flow. Be respectful to earn high speaker points.
Here are some things to keep in mind…
- DO NOT be aggressive. One of my biggest pet peeves in round is when people are extremely aggressive towards one another. If you are aggressive, you will risk losing speaker points.
- You will benefit from speaking at a conversational speed with me, specifically regarding speaker points. There is no need to spread because this is a public forum round.
- Do not paraphrase evidence. I want the full credentials for the author(s) which include: Name, Author Credentials, Year. Make sure you have access to article from which it was cited and if you cannot provide the evidence when asked, I will not weigh it in the round!
- Signpost! Tell me where you are on the flow in every speech to make my job easier. Write the ballot for me! After the constructive speech, every speech should be organized.
- Embrace the clash and weigh. I need to know why to prefer you at the framework, warrant and impact level. Explicitly say, “Prefer this because….”. This makes my job much easier.
- I weigh evidence over logic. However, I don’t mind using logic to de-link an argument.
- VOTERS are extremely important. Please collapse to voters in summary and those same voters must be reiterated in final focus. Extend the narrative and the impacts. The impacts have no weight if you do not extend the narrative.
- I do NOT condone racism, sexism, or bigotry of any kind. You will risk losing many speaker points.
- Most importantly, have fun because at the end of the day, that is the only thing that matters :)
Speaker Point Breakdown:
25 or less - Offensive/Rule breaking behavior; paraphrased evidence
26 - Lacks proper speaking skills; made errors
27 - Good speaker; probably made some technical errors but made sense
28 - Good debater; had good technical skills and weighed
29 - Above average speaker; probably set yourself up to win the round
30 - One of the best debaters and speakers at the tournament; wrote my ballot for me
Please send all speech docs to icwestdebate@googlegroups.com. Please also send the speech doc to cooper.john@iowacityschools.org. Please label each email with the round number, the partnership code, and the side. Example: "R1 Duchesne BB AFF v. Iowa City West KE."
Resources
I have compiled some resources to get better at debate here!
TLDR
Always tell me "Prefer my evidence/argument because." Meaningful and intentional extensions of uniqueness + link + internal link + impact (don't forget warrants) in combination with weighing will win you the round. NOTE: I am a PF traditionalist. Spreading will not get you far in rounds with me.
Experience
I attended Theodore Roosevelt High School in Des Moines, Iowa and debated with Ellie Konfrst (Roosevelt GK). I was a two time state champion when competing. I broke at the TOC and placed ninth at NSDA nationals my senior year (2018). I have also coached at NDF the following years: 2018, 2019, 2020. I am currently a 3L law student at the University of Iowa. I am the current varsity PF coach at Iowa City West. I have coached two teams (Duchesne Academy of the Sacred Heart BB and Iowa City West KE) to qualifying to the gold TOC.
What you should expect of me
It is my obligation to be familiar with the topic. I am also a very emotive judge, if I look confused please break down your argument. It is my obligation to provide for you a clear reason why my ballot was cast and to ensure that you and your coach are able to understand my decision. However, it is not my job to weigh impacts against each other / evaluate competing frameworks. I am always open to discuss the round afterwards.
Flowing
I love off time road maps and they help me flow, please give them! What is on my flow at the end of the round will make my decision for me and I will do my best to make my reasoning clear either on my ballot or orally at the end of the round. If you are organized, clean, clear and extending good argumentation well, you will do well. One thing that I find particularly valuable is having a strong and clear advocacy and a narrative on the flow. This narrative will help you shape responses and create a comparative world that will let you break down and weigh the round in the Final Focus. I also appreciate language that directly relates to the flow (tell me where to put your overview, tell me what to circle, tell me what to cross out).
Extensions
It’s important to note that to get an argument through to the final focus the team must extend the uniqueness+links+impacts. If a single piece is missing, then it significantly weakens the point’s weight in the round. If an argument is dropped at any time, it will not be extended and you’d be better off spending your time elsewhere. Extensions are the backbones of debate, a high-level debater should be able to allocate time and extend their offense and defense effectively.
Framework / Overviews
Framework
If a framework is essential for you to win the round / to your case it should be in constructive. I want to see your intention and round visions early on, squirrel-y argumentation through frameworks muddles the whole round. Only drop the framework if everyone agrees on it. If there is no agreement by summary, win under both.
Overviews
There are two types of overviews in my mind.
1: An overall response to their case.
Good idea.
2: Weighing overviews.
GREAT IDEA
I prefer overviews to be in rebuttal.
The Rebuttal
Extend framework if you want me to use it in order to weigh in the summary and final focus. I also have a soft spot for weighing overviews and usually find them incredibly valuable if done and extended correctly.
If extended and weighed properly, turns are enough to win a round, but if you double turn yourself and muddle the debate you wasted critical time that could have been spent on mitigation/de-linking/non-uniques.
My preference is that the entire first rebuttal is spent on the opponent’s side of the flow. For both teams, I like to see layered responses and very clear road-mapping and sign-posting. The refutations should cover both the entire contention and also examine specific warrants and impacts. The second rebuttal should engage both the opponent’s case as well as the opponent’s responses. Ideally, the time split should be between 3:1 and 2:2.
Summary
I believe the job of the summary speaker (especially for first speaking teams) is the hardest in the round and can easily lose a debate. Extending framework/overviews (if applicable), front lining, and weighing are the three necessary components of any narrative in summary.
Structure:
- Case extensions (uniqueness, link, internal link, impact)
- Frontlining
- Defense/Turn extensions
- Weighing (this can be put anywhere among the other three above).
Frontlining =/= narrative extension.
Defense in the first summary. Make smart strategic decisions. If the defense is being blown up - or mentioned - in final focus it needs to be in summary.
Final Focus
This should be the exact same as your summary with more weighing and less frontlining. It is okay to extend less arguments if you make up for it with weighing.
Speed
Clarity is critical when speaking quickly. My wpm is about 200, going faster than this is risking an incomplete flow on my ballot. If I miss something because of speed, there was an error in judge adaptation.
Organization through all speeches is essential and especially paramount in summary. Make sure I know exactly where you are so that I can help you get as much ink on the flow as possible. Tell me where to flow overviews otherwise I'll just make a judgement call on where to put it on the flow.
Progressive Arguments
I'm fine with Theory / Ks / role of the ballot though you always should "dumb them down" to language used in PF and you must clearly articulate why there is value in rejecting a traditional approach to the topic. Theory / Ks / role of the ballot will also need to be slowed down in terms of speed. Also, you need to read theory right after the violation happens. If you read it as a spike to throw the other team off, I will not evaluate the argument.
I value teams taking daring strategic decisions (EX: drop case and go fully for turns EX2: non-uniquing / severing contentions to avoid opponents turns) and will reward you smart and effective risk-taking with speaker points. That being said, if you do it poorly I will still drop you.
Cross
I like to see strong engagement of the issues in CX and appreciate a deeper analysis than simple clarifying questions. Please be polite and civil and it is everyone’s responsibility to de-escalate the situation as much as possible when it grows too extreme (some jokes are always preferred). Issues in CX will not be weighed in the round unless brought up in a following speech. Making jokes in grand cross to liven up the debate is always good for your speaker points (but don't be that person who tries too hard please).
Speaking
30: Excellent job, you demonstrate stand-out organizational skills and speaking abilities. Ability to use creative analytical skills and humor to simplify and clarify the round.
29: Very strong ability. Good eloquence, analysis, and organization. A couple minor stumbles or drops.
28: Above average. Good speaking ability. May have made a larger drop or flaw in argumentation but speaking skills compensate. Or, very strong analysis but weaker speaking skills.
27: About average. Ability to function well in the round, however analysis may be lacking. Some errors made.
26: Is struggling to function efficiently within the round. Either lacking speaking skills or analytical skills. May have made a more important error.
25: Having difficulties following the round. May have a hard time filling the time for speeches. Large error.
Below: Extreme difficulty functioning. Very large difficulty filling time or offensive or rude behavior.
If you have any post-round questions:
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What to expect from me:
I debated for 4 years on the Eagan High School debate team. I will be flowing the round, so I will be a bit more of a tech judge. Regardless of how I personally feel about the strength of an argument, I will still evaluate it based on how well it's run within the context of the round. I am okay with speed, as long as it doesn't interfere with the clarity of your speaking. I will vote for whoever has the most offense left standing at the end of the round. I will disclose at the end of the round.
How to win my vote (Road to the Ballot):
1. Weighing
In summary I expect clear weighing mechanisms, and when I say weighing mechanisms I mean you actually have to give a comparative analysis between your impacts and the impacts of your opponents. You can't just say "we outweigh on severity", you need to say "we outweigh on severity because we impact to death by war and our opponents impact to a few million dollars lost". If you give me weighing mechanisms like these I will evaluate your impacts first and then it simply becomes an issue of extending your links into those impacts.
2. Extensions
I will not extend your arguments for you. In order to get me to buy your argument at the end of the round, the entirety of your argument should be extended from Sum all the way to FF. This consists of your claim, warrant, and impact. You need both warrant and impact extensions for me to guarantee an evaluation of your argument. If you are missing any of these, the only way that I will still buy your argument is if your opponents never call you out on forgetting to extend.
Additional note: If you didn't talk about it in Sum but bring it up again in FF, I will not consider your argument. Sum is your most important speech in the round where you go over everything that you feel is relevant, so if it isn't mentioned there it shouldn't be mentioned at all later.
3. Frontlining
1st Speaking Team: I don't expect you to preempt your opponents responses to your case in Rebuttal, so Frontlining should take place in Summary.
2nd Speaking Team: I expect Frontlining in your Rebuttal, and if I don't get it in Rebuttal I won't flow it in Sum. You already know what your opponents have to say against your case by Rebuttal so take the time to defend yourself. Doing that in 2nd Sum is extremely unfair to your opponents because they can only begin to respond during FF and that shouldn't be what FF is for.
Both Teams: I won't accept last minute Frontlining that happens in FF.
4. New Evidence/Arguments
Summary: I am okay with new evidence in Sum as long as it is in support of a preexisting argument. No new arguments in Sum because Sum should be a condensing of the round. The only exception to this is if you are the 1st speaking team and are frontlining in Sum.
Final Focus: No new evidence or arguments should be made in FF. If you do this I will not regard the argument regardless of whether or not your opponent calls you out for it.
5. Signposting
Make sure to signpost and tell me where you are on the flow so it'll be easier for me to follow along. The easier it is for me to understand you, the easier it is for me to vote for you.
6. Etiquette
I don't appreciate overly aggressive speakers. You can condescend your opponents and interrupt them all you want, but that doesn't make your argument any stronger. I also don't appreciate it when people dance around questions in Cross. Your inability to answer questions about your arguments will only reflect poorly on you. Just answer the question and move on.
7. Summary
Summary is not a 2nd rebuttal. SUMMARY IS NOT A 2ND REBUTTAL. SUMMARY IS NOT A 2ND REBUTTAL. SUMMARY IS NOT A 2ND REBUTTAL!!!!!!!! If you start your summary on your opponents case, my brain will start shutting down. Summary is supposed to be about why you have won the round, and proving your opponents wrong isn't the same as proving yourself right. Start your summary on what you are winning on, extend your case properly, and take the time to do weighing. Extending your partners responses from rebuttal is secondary to that (Note: This doesn't mean that you shouldn't also do this).
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Speaker Point Breakdown
I will be giving everyone a 28 with 3 exceptions:
1. You are so well spoken that you get a 30
2. You display that you aren't just a bad debater, but a bad person. In that case you will be getting a 25.
3. Idk I'm bored if you tell me something cool I'll give you and extra .5 speakers points because why not.
Credit to Simon Koch for the meme so they can't get mad at me for stealing :)
I am a PF coach and former debater. I can handle some speed, but if you go super fast I will most likely miss things. Please don't run critiques. My preference is for debaters to just debate the resolution at hand. The most important thing to me is warrants, I want to hear why your argument is accurate, not just to be told that it is.
Finally if you try to go for a nuclear war impact on a resolution that doesn't directly relate to nuclear I will 100% vote against it.
I have done JV and Varsity PF and LD. I am pretty chill with most stuff but keep it respectful. Also, I expect to see contention level debate.
Speak at a conversational pace. Especially in online rounds.
Be respectful to your opponents.
Arguments in the Final Focus should be in summary. 2nd rebuttal should (at the bare minimum) respond to turns on their case.
The logic of your arguments should be able to stand up on their own. That is, you shouldn't need to rely entirely on a specific piece of evidence to win an argument. Evidence provides good context, warranting, and impacting, but the logic should be relatively intuitive.
Truth>tech. Good rounds are ones that would make sense to the average person, not just a high school debater.
Hi! I was a public forum debater from Eagan, MN and debated PF for four years.
TLDR; To win my ballot win on the warrants, narrative, and flow. To get good speaker points, be respectful. *Please* don’t run any theory in round, this is public forum.
Here are my preferences in round:
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Be nice. I absolutely hate when debaters are super aggressive, it's unnecessary in my opinion.
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Reference your flow! This is extremely important, in every speech after constructive. In your speech, make sure you tell me exactly which contention, argument, or card you are referencing. Remember, my flow will contain only what you tell me.
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I am okay with a little speed, but make sure that it isn’t as fast as a policy round.
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Don’t paraphrase evidence. Always cite each piece of evidence you read (author, qualifications, and date), and make sure you have access to the full article. If evidence isn’t provided when asked, I will not weigh it.
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I weigh evidence over logic, but you can use logic to de-link evidence.
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You should extend terminal defense in the first summary, and should collapse to voters in both summaries. These voters should be repeated in final focus. Create a narrative and extend it. Tell me exactly why I should vote for you.
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WEIGH. “Prefer this because…”. Make sure to respond to clash. Debates without clash aren’t fun for anybody, especially the judge.
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If you're racist, sexist, or bigoted in any way... your speaking points? They'll reflect your low behavior.
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Feel free to ask me questions before round!
Speaker point breakdown:
30-29 - pretty good
28-27 - could be better but good
26 - there's some improvement to be had
I competed in PF for four years for Theodore Roosevelt High School in Des Moines, Iowa, both on the national and local circuits. I coached at NDF in 2018, 2019, and 2020, and for the 2020-21 season I'm an Assistant PF Coach at Eagan High School. I'm now a junior at the University of Notre Dame studying political science.
Don't be afraid to ask me questions about anything on here - I love answering them, and it shows me that you're making a serious effort to adapt to me, which I appreciate!
Add me to the email chain - ellie.konfrst@gmail.com.
How to win my ballot:
Find the cleanest piece of offense on the flow and weigh that. This is probably the most important thing in my paradigm. I want to avoid intervention as much as I possibly can, but if arguments get muddy and don't get sorted out, that's hard for me to do. I would far prefer to vote off a conceded, well-implicated turn than a case arg riddled with ink and conflicting warranting.
You need to collapse in the second half of the round, it's a huge strategic mistake not to do that.
Use the persuasive nature of PF to your advantage. I evaluate the round off the flow, but that doesn't mean I'm not a human and can't be persuaded. Ultimately, your job is to convince me you're right. In close rounds, sometimes that's less logical and more emotional.
In the spirit of persuasion, you should be collapsing on a clear narrative in the second half of the round.
You have to weigh. If you don't weigh for me I'm forced to literally just pick things I think are more important, which means you lose control of the round, and I'm forced to interfere. Weighing should be clear in summary and final focus, and it might even be helpful to start weighing in rebuttal. (NOTE: In order to weigh your argument, you also have to win the argument. I've seen way too many teams weigh arguments that they lose, and that leaves me forced to intervene just as much as if you don't weigh. Remember, you need to extend warrants and impacts).
Extensions:
If you want it on the ballot, it needs to be in summary AND final focus.
Extend warrants and impacts. Make a point to especially extend impacts - I have literally no reason to vote for your argument if there's no impact, and failing to extend impacts in final focus can be fatal.
Defense you need to win needs to be extended in first summary. Especially with 3 minutes for summary, y'all - if you expect defense to be sticky from rebuttal to final focus you are not debating well.
You need to respond to your opponent's rebuttal if you're speaking 2nd. I prefer defense and offense, but I'm significantly more forgiving with dropped defense than dropped offense. If you speak second and you drop a turn read in first rebuttal, I consider it dropped for the round. With that said, please do not "extend" your case in 1st rebuttal, I will probably just stop listening.
Extend card names along with what the card says.
Conduct:
I know debate rounds can get heated, but I think it's important to respect your opponents. If you're unnecessarily aggressive, patronizing, or rude, I'll definitely dock your speaks. I'm not telling you to not be assertive or loud, but I can tell the difference between someone who believes their opponents are wrong and someone who believes their opponents are not even worth their time.
If you are sexist, racist, homophobic, ableist, transphobic, etc. I'll drop you and tank your speaks.
This is a small thing, but I really dislike when teams call out strategic errors made by the other time in cross, i.e. "didn't you drop this in summary?" It's a waste of cross-ex time and it feels rude to me - tell me in a speech, don't turn it into a cross question.
Arguments:
I like interesting arguments a lot! Obviously squirrely/unwarranted args probably won't win you my ballot, but judging 6 double-flighted debate rounds in a row can get super monotonous, and I'll probably reward you if you at least make the round more interesting.
I'm open to any type of impacts, as long as you weigh them.
However, I have 0 background in policy or LD, so if you want to run theory/Ks/pre-fiat arguments you're gonna need to explain them to me in the simplest possible terms. To be clear, I have rarely encountered any kind of shell when debating or judging, and only rarely encountered ROB args as a debater. I am pretty uncomfortable evaluating these arguments and while I'll evaluate them as best I can, you run them at your own risk.
Framework:
I will evaluate under whatever framework is presented to me in the round.
That means, if you drop your opponent's framework, I will weigh the round based on that.
I'm super hesitant to use framework brought up in 2nd rebuttal, especially if it fundamentally alters the way I need to evaluate the debate. If your framework is something very different from a CBA (e.g. deontology) it needs to be in constructive.
I love weighing overviews and will 100% evaluate them as long as they're brought up by rebuttals.
Evidence:
If you tell me to call for a card OR seeing a card is necessary in order for me to make my decision, I'll call for it.
When sharing evidence with either me or your opponents, the evidence should be in cut card form or a highlighted PDF. Sending just a link is unfair to your opponents and annoying to me!
Don't paraphrase, however I tend to be pretty lenient on evidence ethics. If evidence is bad, I basically just evaluate the round as if the evidence didn't exist. I'm not opposed to dropping teams solely on terrible evidence ethics, but you'd probably have to act pretty awfully in order for me to do so.
Other stuff:
I talk really fast in real life, and I talked really fast in debate, so I can handle max PF speeds. Spreading is harder online and early in the morning - I'll do my best, but remember that if I don't get stuff on my flow because you were talking too fast that's your fault. With that said, if you are clearly speaking too fast for your opponents, I'll probably dock your speaks - I think that's rude and exclusionary for an event that's supposed to be open for anyone.
Please time yourselves and your opponents! I am not timing and will let you keep talking if no one else stops you, which just makes the round last longer and is unfair to everyone else.
This is an unpopular opinion, but I LOVE roadmaps. They should be brief, and I can tell when teams use it to steal prep, but if you do it well I will love you. I don't think it ever hurts to make sure you and your judge are on the same page.
This is also why it's crucial for you to signpost. There's nothing worse than you giving killer responses, but me missing them because you lost me in your speech.
You should be using voters in summary/final focus! It's not a dealbreaker for me but it will make me like you more and I'll probably boost your speaks. It also just makes for better debates, so do it!
If you have any questions I'd love to answer them, just ask me before the round!
(Public Forum, Classic, Congress) and 2 years in speech (Discussion).
I will vote for the team that can impact and weigh effectively. Don't just tell me all the great things about your side and/or the bad things about your opponent's side. Tell me why your side is better than the other team. WEIGH!
Speed: I don't mind a little speed as long as I have enough time to flow your arguments.
Evidence: Read me direct quotes, don't paraphrase. I want a proper citation for your source (Author name, credentials, where is the source from, date).
Summary and/or final speeches: Tell me what is the big picture and what I should be voting on.
Experience: 7 years of judging PF and Congress, Juris Doctor with Legal background.
Philosophy:
I approach debate as an educational activity that fosters critical thinking, effective communication, and the exploration of various perspectives. My role is to evaluate the round based on the arguments presented, the quality of evidence and analysis, and the overall coherence of the debate.
Roles of the Debaters:
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Clarity and Organization: I value clear, concise, and organized speeches. Debaters should articulate their points effectively, signpost, and provide a clear roadmap for the round.
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Argumentation: I prioritize well-developed and supported arguments. Provide strong evidence and analysis to back up your claims. Quality over quantity; I prefer a few strong points to numerous weak ones.
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Rebuttal and Clash: Engage with your opponent's arguments. Effective rebuttal involves addressing the core of the argument, not just the surface-level claims.
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Flexibility and Adaptability: Be prepared to adapt your strategy based on your opponent's arguments and the direction of the round.
Evidence and Sources:
From my legal education and background, I pay very close attention to sources. Cite reliable and credible sources. The quality of evidence is more important than the quantity. If a source is questionable, make sure to highlight this in your argumentation.
Cross-Examination:
I consider cross-examination to be an integral part of the debate. It's an opportunity to clarify, challenge, and extract concessions from your opponent. Effective cross-examination can significantly strengthen your case. I will pay close attention to challenges to opponents' arguments and how it is used to strengthen your case.
Speaker Points:
I will assign speaker points based on clarity, argumentation, strategic choices, and overall contribution to the round. Be respectful and professional throughout the debate.
Role of the Judge:
My role is to fairly and objectively evaluate the arguments presented. I will not inject my personal opinions into the decision-making process. I will assess the round based on what transpires in the debate.
Speed and Delivery:
While I can handle a moderate pace, I value clarity over speed. If your arguments become unclear due to rapid delivery, it may hinder your overall assessment.
Respect and Decorum:
Maintain respect for your opponents, partner, and the judge throughout the round. Be mindful of time limits and follow the established rules. I do not tolerate arguing over each other or unnecessary interjections as it muddles and slows the debate.
Final Thoughts:
Remember, debate is an educational activity, but don't forget to have fun! Embrace the opportunity to learn, grow, and engage with different perspectives. I look forward to a productive and insightful round!
I did PF in high school (2013-2017) and have judged a fair amount since.
Clarity > Speed
Depth of arguments > Quantity
Good analytics > Blippy evidence
Good evidence* > Good analytics
Truth > Tech**
Be as explicit as possible in comparing warrants/evidence. I should hear the phrase “prefer our analysis here because...” throughout your speeches.
Start crystallizing and weighing the big picture in summary; some line-by-line is okay but don't treat it like a 2nd rebuttal.
Your weighing in FF should be clear enough that I can quote you verbatim in my RFD.
*To me, good evidence includes reading full citations (credentials!) and not paraphrasing.
**I do vote off the flow, but stylistically, I dislike the philosophy of "seeing debate as a game". I appreciate teams that put effort into developing a cohesive thesis/narrative rather than just scoring cheap points on the flow.
I have been judging debate in MN regularly since at least 2004. I judge at invitationals, Sections, NatQuals, and State. I started judging LD debate, but as PF has grown in MN, I now judge mostly PF debate. I also started coaching PF in 2017.
When judging debate I want you, the debaters, to prove to me why you should win my ballot. I listen for explanations as to WHY your contention is stronger or your evidence more reliable than the opponents' contention/evidence. Just claiming that your evidence/arguments are better does not win my ballot. In other words, I expect there to be clash and clear reasoning.
I listen carefully to the evidence entered in to the debate to make sure it matches the tag you have given it. If a card is called by the other team, it better have a complete source cite and show the quoted material either highlighted or underlined with the rest of the words there. The team providing the card should be able to do so expeditiously. I expect that author, source, and date will be presented. Author qualifications are very helpful, especially when a team wants to convince me their evidence is stronger than the opponents. The first time the ev is presented, it needs to be the author’s words, in context, and NOT paraphrased. Later paraphrased references in the round, of course, is a different story.
The affirmative summary speech is the last time new arguments should be entered in the debate.
If arguments are dropped in summaries, they are dropped from my flow.
When time expires for a speech, I stop flowing.
I expect that debaters should understand their case and their arguments well enough that they can explain them clearly and concisely. If a debater cannot respond effectively to case questions in Cross Fire, that does not bode well.
I expect debaters to show respect for each other and for the judge. Rude behavior will result in low speaker points.
PF and LD are separate debate events, but I don't think my view as a judge changes much between the two activities. I want to hear the resolution debated. If one side basically avoids the resolution and the other side spends some time answering those arguments PLUS supporting their case on the resolution, I will likely lean towards the side that is more resolutional. In other words, if one side chooses to run something that does not include looking at the pros and cons of the actual resolution, and chooses to ignore the resolution for the majority of the debate, that choice probably won't bode well for that team.
I only give oral critiques and disclose when required to in out-rounds. I promise I will give a thorough RFD on my ballot.
I debated PF in High School, coached in College and now work and run tournaments for the NYCUDL. I judge on the flow most heavily on the last four speeches. Please weigh and give analysis beyond dropping weighing mechanism terms. The more effective your analysis and explanation of the round the more likely I will vote for you. I won't drop your arguments if you don't bring them up in every speech, but I will weigh and value them less because that indicates to me that it is not an essential argument to your case. Be kind to your opponents I will dock your speaks for being rude to anyone in the round.
I am a senior at the University of St. Thomas. I have participated in 2 years of public forum debate, during my high school career. This is my second year of judging public forum debate.
When it comes to debating, I strongly value speaking. I really appreciate debaters who speak calmly and collectively, rather than at a rapid pace. Likewise, I encourage signposting as much as possible in speeches.
I tend to give the win to the team who makes it easiest for me to flow.
I am a former competitor in Public Forum as well as Congressional Debate. I look for clear impacts that I can weigh at the end of rounds. Additionally, I am looking for strong citations when it comes to claims being made.
i debated PF for 4 years at eagan high school and graduated in 2020. I've been coaching for PF since then for wayzata high school.
***add me to the email chain! (email chain > doc) feel free to ask me questions before the round or to shoot me an email: shailja.p22@gmail.com
general:
- offtime road map: My biggest pet peeve is when you give me an offtime road map and then don't follow it. keep it short and really I just need to know where you are starting unless you are doing something weird.
- speed: i consider myself a flow judge. tech>truth. a case doc doesn't replace your speech. i can flow pretty fast but don't spread. naturally, the slower you go the more i comprehend. so do with that as you will.
- ks, theory, etc... : I a) i don't have enough experience with these kinds of arguments and thus don't feel comfortable evaluating them and b) think they create a barrier in the debate space.
- framework: this is pretty obvious - if a team gives me a framework I will vote off of that (as long as it makes sense) - if you have a FW and the other team doesn't that doesn't mean you win.
plz do not aggressively post-round me :) ask me questions but don't yell at me - i'm not going to switch my decision
how to win my vote:
- weighing: say the words " we outweigh because..." it makes it easier for me.
- signposting: just do it.
- voters: have them and write the ballot for me.
- evidence: evidence ethics have gotten so bad in debate these days. don't take forever to find evidence (speaks will go down). make sure you have cut cards. do not paraphrase.
- extensions: don't just extend through "ink". don't just say "flow Smith over". explain to me what smith says and why it matters in the context of the round. make sure if you say something final focus it is/actually was in summary and vice-versa. if you are the second speaking team you must respond to offense from 1st rebuttal. defense is not sticky. this is given, but if you want me to vote for it at the end of the round have it in every speech.
- overall, please have fun while still being nice and respectful. no one likes to watch an aggressive debate round.
GENERAL:
I am a pretty typical judge. Do as much weighing as possible. Make sure you respond to your opponents rebuttal. If a counter argument goes unaddressed I won't flow your contention through no matter how weak I think the counter is. It's not my job to decide which arguments are good or bad until I am looking at what I have left on my flow at the end of the round.
FRAME WORKS:
If you don't offer your own framework or dispute your opponents framework I will be forced to vote using theirs no matter how absurd. Unlike most judges, I enjoy a good framework debate. I think for most topics it's a critically important part of any PF case.
SPEED:
I don't have any problem with speaking quickly, however if your whole case is read at lightning fast speed I won't know what's important. Please slow down and emphasize when you are making an important point.
EVIDENCE:
Please emphasize why your sources are more credible than your opponents. Lots of debate rounds (JV and Novice especially) come down to a he said she said at which point I as the judge have to choose who to believe which I don't want to do.
Read the actual card instead of paraphrasing whenever possible. If you are blatantly misconstruing or flat-out fabricating evidence you will instantly be dropped regardless of if its an issue I'm voting on. I don't have time to check if everything you say is true so if it can be proved you are lying about one card I will assume all of them are false. Every round can be won fair and square if you are a talented debater.
Summary/FF:
Please be on the same page as your partner for these two speeches. The FF should flow from the summary.
Hi! I am a former PF debater. My pronouns are she/her.
TLDR: I will vote on the flow along with your weighing. Please be respectful in the round to get good speaker points;
In round:
- Keep your cool in the round. It is not fun for me to listen to overly aggressive debaters. Speaker points reflect this.
- Your link chain should be logical and easy to follow.
- SIGNPOST and tell me where you are on the flow. It makes it easier for me to follow your argument.
- Don't paraphrase evidence. Seriously.
- Extend terminal defense in the second rebuttal and first summary.
- If something is dropped in summary I usually won't extend it to final focus.
- WEIGH WEIGH WEIGH your arguments throughout the round. This is how I will know to write my ballot paired with the flow.
- Do not have a cost benefit analysis as your framework, it adds nothing.
- I will answer specific questions before the round.
- Assume I know very little about the topic.
- I will give you an extra .5 speaker point if at the start of your rebuttal you say "my opponents' case is like a golf course, there's a lot of holes in it."
- good luck and have fun! :)
Pronouns: she/her/hers
I have three years of experience debating Public Forum at Millard North High School, and coached for three debate seasons from 2018-2020. Since then, I have gotten a degree in forestry and am currently working in that field. I have not been involved in the debate world since 2020, so I may not be up-to-date on circuit norms.
Speed: I am not good with speed. Do not go above a fast conversational pace/a speed you would reasonably expect reporters on say, CNN, use to communicate with the public. Talking slightly faster than normal is fine, but if a random member of the public would have trouble following what you are saying I probably will too. All my experience is in PF, with a sprinkling of Congress, so please pace yourself accordingly. I will put something in the chat if your speed is a problem for me. Additionally, make sure that your speed is accessible for your opponents.
Virtual Debate Issues: If you are having problems following a speech because of your own/another debaters' Internet connection or related tech issues, SPEAK UP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. If you have these concerns during your opponents' speech, please put them in the chat as soon as they arise. I have no problem stopping mid-round to work around technology issues.
How I vote: I vote off my flow and what is said in the round, but I will accept "nope" as a sufficient answer to arguments that are obviously, wildly false or implausible: (like if someone is arguing, idk, that Turkey is protecting NATO from a zombie apocalypse). If someone provides an argument for a role of the ballot that is different from the usual norms of Public Forum, I will consider it and vote based off how well you defend the ROB, and, if you are successful, which team best meets that role. It's possible to win on framing but lose the round.
2nd speaking Team: I expect you to rebuild your case in rebuttal.
If an argument isn't in Summary and final focus, I will not vote off of it. The sole exception is if everyone drops all the important arguments in summary/final focus and I need to re-examine dropped speeches to decide who wins.
I always disclose and give oral feedback.
For Public Forum Debate:
I don't have a technical orientation to debate anyway, but especially in this format I value and reward displays of critical thinking and appeals to basic common sense and logic. You can win an argument with me even if your opponent has a card and you don't.
Generally I am skeptical of cards when I hear them. I'm very sensitive to and annoyed by over- and mis-interpretation of evidence. I am thrilled if you probe your opponent's understanding of their cards and the expertise/validity of their sources.
I'd rather have you step back, slow down, and talk me through a well reasoned argument than take time brainlessly spouting some bad piece of evidence pulled from a french law student's blog.
Particulars and pet peeves:
* I have a 30% hearing loss in one ear to SPEAKING UP is especially important to me.
* Confidence is important and a plus but you should also be overly-polite. Don't condescend to your opponent...
* ... or to me by telling me that I "have to" give you the win for any given reason. This is almost never true, especially in the less technical PF world. Encourage and influence me to weigh the way you'd like but it just bugs me when you get all bossy.
Speed is fine (but must be crystal clear for high speaks), jargon is fine. Whatever you put on the flow I will evaluate but prefer evidence to analytics.
I have judged for 10+years on the local Minnesota circuit and competed in LD before that. My knowledge of specific higher level national circuit strategies is limited as I haven't judged many national circuit rounds but I am confident that I can follow as long as you keep the round clear.
Please add me to any email chains: alsmit6512@gmail.com
If you have specific questions, feel free to ask before the round.
I'm a parent judge with no prior experience to formal debate until becoming exposed to it as a parent of a debater. However, I really enjoy listening to what you have to say! Bottom line, I'm a lay judge though my daughter says that I'm 'flay'. However much I try, I guarantee novices flow better than me.
If you spread or go too fast, I won't understand you, and that really puts you at a disadvantage. Please make sure you're understandable. K's or Theory at your own risk. I likely won't know what to do with that.
The whole point of debate is mastering the art of persuasion. I try to follow flow but may miss technical details. Don't rely on technicalities to determine if you think you won the round. Persuade me to vote for you. Make me buy your argument. I will vote based off of who holistically convinces me to affirm or negate. If the round gets muddy I go for the path of least resistance. Don't overthink it, just do your best.
I expect teams to keep and police the timing of their own rounds. I'll only interject if I think it's egregious, but poor time management may negatively impact my impression.
Be genuine and show your personality. If you tell a joke that makes me laugh I may give you an extra speaker point.
Low speaker points are generally from low energy, an extreme lack of eloquence or an abundance of ummms and uhhhs.
Abusive behavior, racism, sexism and homophobia etc. will be reported to your coaches, and I reserve the right to drop you on the spot.
Have fun and good luck!
Hi! I am currently a paralegal and used to be a PF debater :)
TLDR; To win my ballot win on the warrants, narrative, and flow. To get good speaker points, be respectful. Please don’t run any theory in round, this is public forum.
Here are my preferences in round:
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Be nice. I absolutely hate when debaters are super aggressive, it's unnecessary in my opinion. One debate round isn’t the end of the world, calm down and be respectful.
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Reference your flow! This is extremely important, in every speech after constructive. In your speech, make sure you tell me exactly which contention, argument, or card you are referencing. Remember, my flow will contain only what you tell me.
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I am okay with a little speed, but make sure that it isn’t as fast as a policy round.
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Don’t paraphrase evidence. Always cite each piece of evidence you read (author, qualifications, and date), and make sure you have access to the full article. If evidence isn’t provided when asked, I will not weigh it.
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I weigh evidence over logic, but you can use logic to de-link evidence.
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You should extend terminal defense in the first summary, and should collapse to voters in both summaries. These voters should be repeated in final focus. Create a narrative and extend it. Tell me exactly why I should vote for you.
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WEIGH. “Prefer this because…”. Make sure to respond to clash. Debates without clash aren’t fun for anybody, especially the judge.
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If you're racist, sexist, or bigoted in any way you're speaking points will reflect your behavior.
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Feel free to ask me questions before round :)
Speaker point breakdown:
30- best speaker at the tournament
29- above average speaker
28- pretty good speaker, but could be better on analysis or speaking
27- good speaker, but needs improvement in both analysis and speaking
26- lacks proper speaking skills, or made an error in round
25 or less- paraphrased evidence that isn’t true or was disrespectful in round
Experience
One year of policy, three years of public forum as a debater. This will be my eighth year as a judge, mainly for public forum.
Definitions/Framework
Don't take too long here outside of your case, unless the resolution deems it necessary. For a straightforward resolution, a framework will not have a significant impact on how I judge a round. I'll listen, but it is very rare that the framework will win you the round by itself. Same with definitions. Unless the resolution is vague and definitions are required, they won't have much effect on the round.
Argumentation
Case Speakers - Not much to say about a pre-written speech except to use all of your time and read through your speech enough times that my round doesn't sound like the first time you are seeing the case.
Rebuttal - First, don't restate your case. Your partner just read it, I don't need to hear it again. Second, make sure to signpost. I can usually follow where your arguments should go, but the more I'm focusing on where to flow your point, the less I'm focusing on the actual point.
Crossfire - Similar to the framework, a round usually isn't won or lost in crossfire. I typically use this time to take a break from flowing and begin to process the various points that have been made in the round. Questions posed by debaters can help clarify points, but don't often turn things around too much. However, if you do discover something big that could change the course of the round, make sure to follow it up in your next speeches. As I rarely flow crossfire, a significant point could be lost if not expanded upon later. Be polite to one another, don't interrupt your opponents and try to ask more in depth questions than "What was your first point?".
Summary/Final Focus - Start to condense the round into the main points that you think will be the most important. I will flow either way, but if one team starts to focus on the main voters while the other just gives a second rebuttal speech, weighing the round can be a little difficult. Be specific in your main voters. Tell me which points are important, why they are more important than your opponents, and how much weight I should give them.
Delivery
Speed - With my one year of policy and relatively young ears, speed isn't too much of an issue. I can still flow just about anything, but I do recommend that you slow down a hair when reading your points and subpoints. My shorthand does get shorter the faster you go, so the likelihood that I can't read my flow or miss a key factor of your point goes up as speed increases. Similarly, don't attempt speed just to throw more arguments at the wall to see what sticks. I prefer good points versus a deluge that allows you to say "my opponent didn't respond to ___" at the end of the round.
Additional Notes
Public Forum is not Policy. - I don't want to hear K's or DA's, and depending on the resolution, teams need to be very careful that the case they are presenting does not fall into the realm of plan/counterplan. The only holdover I will take from policy is topicality. If a case very blatantly does not comply with the resolution, I will hear the argument and weigh it accordingly. However, be warned. If it is not obviously outside of the confines of the resolution and you are trying to pull one over on me for a quick win, it implies that you do not have enough legitimate arguments to defeat their case.
Be Professional - This just kind of applies in general. I have yet to personally decide a round based on a debater's attitude or how they treated their opponents, and as long as both sides exude proper decorum, I hope I won't have to.
Timer - For a speech, when the timer goes off, I will listen to the end of a sentence, but will stop listening and will not flow whatever comes next. During crossfire, if the timer goes off during a question, I will allow the opponent to answer the question, but there will be no follow-up and crossfire is over as soon as the answer has concluded.
Roadmaps - I'm fine with roadmaps if they are necessary. But if your roadmap is "I'm going to go down our flow and then down my opponent's flow', no need to make a big deal out of it.
Questions
Feel free to email me at wilsontj@sio.midco.net before or after the round if you have any questions.
As for CX, I lean in the traditional direction of favoring well-researched and crafted AFFs that link to the topic, solve genuine harms and produce plausible advantages. NEGs need to produce offense and defense arguments, looking for clear on-case attax and Off-case flows with specific links and significant impacts and CPs that are competitive. T args are usually a waste of time with me unless NEG can prove serious abuse of the topic. I'll vote on the K if I can buy the Alt. I ask to see cards on regularly. As for speed, if it is clear, I can flow it, and if I can flow it I can weigh/judge it. I'll yell "Clear" once, and after that, if the speaker is unintelligible, I put down my G2.
In LD, I flow everything--even CX. I look for good Framework clash/comparison and weighing which V/C will carry the round. Contentions must clearly link to the FW, backed up by solid evidence. I'm looking for debaters who can cover both flows thoroughly and offer a clear, concise pathway to getting my ballot. Try to stay steady and organized. Present good voters and weigh them against your opponent. I will listen to progressive strategies if they make sense to me.
With PF, I flow it all, but I in all honesty, I am looking for the team that can articulate the best scenario, back it up with stellar evidence, speak with authority and avoid making CX a barking fest.
I'm a recent college graduate who has judged a couple of LD tournaments but never participated in debate when I was in school. Since I'm a relatively new judge and don't judge often, excessive speed is counterproductive on the debaters' part (AKA I'm a traditional judge and don't recommend running progressive). I follow where the rounds are going, and expect to be led to the big arguments for either side. I value logical coherence and arguments with well-supported data that clearly link to the arguments.
Politeness and respect for your opponent and the judge is required.