Last Ditch
2017 — MUHS, WI/US
LD/PF Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideDebate Experience
West Allis Central High School (in Milwaukee, WI)- 3 yrs (Policy)
I have been participating either through debating or judging for most of the last 16 years.
If I said I'm trying to be as clean of a slate as possible when judging, I'd be lying. I vote on mostly everything as long as there are good arguments made and carried through the final speeches.
Things that will upset me and make me want to leave.
- The spray and pray (You just make random args with no content just for the sake of making them)
- When you try to spread (speed read), but can't keep it clear. If I look confused, I am. I can keep up with your speed if reasonable. The more I judge, the more I see the students getting faster and faster to just get cards on the page rather than advancing their arguments and making strong arguments. If you're reading fast just to get cards out so you can call your opponent out for dropping them, that's bad debate.
- When you run arguments incompletely, and decide to go for it (i.e. Counterplans with no CP text, DAs with no link or uniqueness or impact, T with no standards or voters)
- If you stand up there and say nothing during your speech
I love clash, clash is fun. I can't be mad at a passive-aggressive CX or debate because I was notorious for that, but when you show your whole behind then it gets awkward and I will probably dock your speaks if it's unwarranted.
The one thing I love more than clash is when the debater does the work for me. This is often achieved through good line by lines and impact calcs.
Performance debates, T, and weird alts are fine. Kritiks are off-the-wall for me, so run it slow for me.
Theory and framework debates- I need you to definitely slow down on these arguments if you want me to flow everything and get a good understanding of the arguments. These also need an impact calculus.
I've been a Nat Circuit PF/LD/Policy judge, a NAUDL policy judge, and a HS policy debater.
In case you read this, good for you. I assume most of you won't, which is fine but then don't expect high speaks.
For the duration of the LD debate round, I expect both competitors to respect and uphold the rules and regulations established by the WDCA. Should any competitor fail to comply with rules and regulations, the results will be an automatic loss for the round, and/or disqualification. Respectful consideration should also be taking during cross-examination and prep/ flex prep. Each competitor has the right to allow or decline sharing of analytics/ unique case blocking; however, the sharing of evidence is required per WDCA standards. Should any of the competitors refuse to answer their opponents questions, the result will be an automatic deduction in positional speaker marks.
The most important strategy to remember; voters in the rebuttal is a vote for all mankind! Although standard impacts and observations may be compelling in the 1A, the affirmative must provide a value and criterion to insure strong voting and education within the round. Failure to extend or address any established framework throughout the rebuttal is a high-risk voter for both the affirming and negating competitor. Should either competitor provide a “burden”, supplement to the framework, I suggest they account for the extra baggage before exiting the rebuttal (i.e.: if you are losing to a burden that either you or your opponent establishes, don't be afraid to admit defeat and learn to kick non-unique arguments. Your position just might survive with a clear weight of impacts. Competitors are allowed to share (encompass) the same value or criterion. The wash reverts to weighted impacts in the RFD.
It would be a shame not to end all arguments in extinction. With that being said, uniqueness/ links/ warrants to impacts are the cherries on top of the RFD. Impacts should have clear relevance to the value and criterion. An Impact turn makes me want to do a happy dance; favorably considered within the RFD. All negative competitors beware! Refusing to address the affirmative in any way, even by part of establishing a progressive counter/ alternative, IS LAME!! “Best for education” arguments are a time suck, and the RFD will likely flow affirmative.
In a nutshell… voter gooooood! Debating the affirmative gooooood! Become the cherry. Be the cherry.
I have been a student debater primarily in Policy debate at Bradley Tech High School, with a few debates under my belt in Public Forum Debate as well. I have judged Policy as well as Public Forum, and primarily Lincoln Douglas Debate for the last 5 years on the Wisconsin Circuit and once at the Glenbrooks.
SPEED:Not a fan of speed, as debaters tend to get very inarticulate when trying to spread other debaters.
FRAMEWORK:I put a lot of weight on framework debates. This is a big voter for me.
KRTIKS: Not much of a fan mostly due to the fact that most debaters can't fully explain one in the short amount of time allotted. Run at your own peril or if you can explain and convince me fully to pick up up on one.
COUNTER PLANS:I usually like to hear counterplans, as long as they have structure and can be explained well to convince me to vote on it.
THEORY: I can listen to it, but most of the time, it won't be enough to guarantee a win, UNLESS you are very convincing in it, AND that is all you have for a particular argument.
DISADVANTAGES: See impacts.
IMPACTS: VERY IMPORTANT! WEIGH...THE ...ROUND!!! Give me voters and extend your impacts please. In the end, that is what will convince me to give you the win.
DELIVERY AND POLITENESS: Have a clear delivery, with lots of clash, and be very polite. I did not like rudeness when I was debating; won't tolerate it now when I am judging. Not a fan of flex prep, where cross ex continues during another person's prep time.
After the round, I can give oral critiques, BUT I DO NOT DISCLOSE! I feel the debaters will follow the comments more if they are not distracted by the win or loss disclosure.
Any other questions, just ask me before the round.
I look forward to judging some awesome debates.
Preferred E-mail:
janet.esco@gmail.com
Debate Experience:
Georgia State University (Atlanta, GA)3-ish years (Policy)
Bradley Tech High School (in Milwaukee, WI)- 4 yrs (Policy), Assistant Debate Coach - 1Yr (LD & PF)
Current Position: Head Coach at Oak Grove HS, Kipp San Jose Collegiate, and Downtown College Prep-El Primero
I'm only writing this so I don't get fined. J.K.
If I said I'm trying to be as clean of a slate as possible when judging, I'd be lying. I vote on mostly everything as long as there are good arguments made and carried through the final speeches.
Things that will aggravate me and make me want to hurt a puppy (May apply to National circuit LD and PF debates when applicable):
- The spray and pray (You just make random args with no content just for the sake of making them) -_-
- Race arguments executed badly, ESPECIALLY from someone that has never experienced racial discrimination a day in their lives. You will get stale-faced, and I will make sure my ancestors haunt you in your dreams. -__________________-
- When you run topicality when you're constrained to a packet and use abuse as a voter -__-
- When you run arguments incompletely, and decide to go for it (i.e. Counterplans with no CP text, DAs with no link or uniqueness or impact, T with no standards or voters)
- When you argue with me and you know you're wrong. Don't do it. I'm not the one, I promise you.
I love clash, clash is fun. I can't be mad at a passive-aggresive CX or debate because I was notorious for that, but when you show your whole behind then it gets awkward and I will probably dock your speaks if it's unwarranted.
The one thing I love more than clash is when the debater does the work for me. This is often achieved through good line by lines and impact calcs.
I am okay with speed as long as you're clear. If you know you are an uncler spreader, then don't do it to me or to yourself. I will yell clear twice and stop flowing if it continues and give you the death glare.
K debates, performance debates, T, and weird alts are fine.
Theory and framework debates- I need you to definately slow down on these arguments if you want me to flow everything and get a good understanding of the arguments. These also need an impact calculus.
I will not vote on oncase arguments alone on the neg, I need some sort of off case to go with it.
Lincoln-Douglass:
Same applies. Don't make me want to kick a puppy in your name. I love impact arguments and extending those impact arguments. Whether its extinction, dehum, etc. I need Impacts and I'll love you for using them.
Framework: Will vote on it if you tell me why I should vote on it with clear impacts.
T and theory: same
DA's and CPs: they neeeedd to have impacts and your counterplans need to be mutually exclusive either on their own or through a net benefit.
I value more the quality of the argument than the amount. I like efficiency.
line by lines make me happy.
Dont be condescending in round or when giving my RFD. If you do, I can't promise that I won't embarrass you.
I am a fairly progressive judge, I am open to most arguments and stay as objective as possible.
I spend the majority of tournaments in the tabroom. In 2015-2016, for example, I judged only one round. As a result, if I'm in the back of the room, I will be a bit of a fish out of water and likely something is going wrong with the world. I'm old and judge with an old-school philosophy. Make sense, explain your evidence and treat everyone with civility.
Please do not spread during your debate. Thank you.
The most important things to know about debating in front of me are that I tend to prefer traditional argumentation. However, there is no position I will not vote on if executed well. I judge solely based on the cases presented. Make sure you establish how the round should be evaluated (clearly determine value, contentions, framework, etc.) and use your time during cross-ex effectively.
Experience:
I participated in speech (informative category) during high school. This season is my first year judging debate. Since September 2016, I have been judging novice and varsity PF and LD. Additionally, my career path has largely incorporated public speaking and critical thinking so I have a strong capability to critique and evaluate speakers.
Rate of Communication:
I am okay with speed as long as articulation is maintained. My perception of your performance can be affected negatively if your rate hinders my ability to understand what you are saying.
Persuasive Communication:
I greatly value the ability to persuade. Confidence in information and familiarity with the topic are prerequisites to this. As a speaker, you must show concern for the fundamental questions using research and logic. Credibility is also achieved through physical appearance by presenting yourself polished and professional. Intonation is important in emphasizing strong points and I appreciate meaningful eye contact directed at both me and your opponent off-and-on throughout the debate.
Cross-Examination:
Please be civil and respectful in speech and tone. Please make concise responses and use your ability the paraphrase to use your time wisely. I value speakers who ask strategic questions and remain composed.
Value/Criteria:
As LD is a values debate, a value and supported criteria are essential. Establish your value and determine how you will achieve your value through the criterion. I like comparative phrases that distinguish how the opponent’s criterion does not achieve the value and how yours better achieves the opponent’s value, if possible. I expect you to emphasize why your case is the best solution.
If you have questions, please contact me at erika.schneider@marquette.edu.
Former LD/PF Coach at Marquette University High School in Milwaukee, WI and former PF debater at Brookfield East High School (class of 2014) in Brookfield, WI.
As far as the round goes, my bottom line is that I don’t want to have to intervene so please make the round as clear as possible. Speaking more generally, I think debate can teach
Short Version
LD
I prefer traditional debate.
I'm open to progressive arguments if they're well-presented and clearly link into the resolution, but tread carefully and at your own risk.
Don't spread. It's a cheap strat with no real world value. Left up to me, it would be banned from debate.
PF
PF is supposed to appeal to a lay audience. Please don't be lazy and fire off all your research at me as quickly as possible Be very clear with arguments and thorough with your rebuttals.
Give voters in the Final Focus. Please.
Long Version
LD
I’m theoretically open to anything as a judge so long as you extend your arguments throughout the round, offer good impact calc, and provide solid links to the resolution (especially if you plan on running anything 'progressive'). This may seem basic but it's only happened in 10% of the debates I've judged, maybe less.
As far as content goes, I would much rather judge a traditional debate. This means providing a framework (ex: value and value criterion) followed by a few topical contentions. I'm okay with Kritiks and theory so long as they apply to the resolution. For example, a Native-American oppression K works well with a resolution about education (seeing as the US actively destroyed Native-American culture through boarding schools), but it doesn't work nearly as well when debating criminal justice. In other words, please tailor your Ks (or theory) to the resolution. If you don't, I'll conclude that someone gave you something to read and that you don't actually know how to debate and will be clamoring for reasons to drop you for the remainder of the debate.
Spreading is a cancer in LD debate. Sure, debate is like a game and spreading is a strategy you can employ to win the game, but it's not something you're going to go pro in- there's no professional debate league. The value of debate to you as a debater derives from the skills it equips you with to navigate through life (i.e. research, articulation, persuasiveness, audience adaptation, etc). The point is that spreading is not a skill you will use in life after debate.
To clarify, I won't drop you for spreading but will gleefully tank your speaks. If both debaters want to spread I will judge the round as you wish but will tank your speaks. I'm sure this annoys many of the "progressive" LDers reading this, but if you're actually good at debate, adapting shouldn't be a problem.
PF
It saddens me that I need to put this in my paradigm, but I will drop you if you run anything progressive in Public Forum. PF is supposed to appeal to a lay audience; it is a debate where any generally informed member of the public should be able to judge. If you try and go over the heads of the judge or your opponent and avoid thoughtfully engaging with the resolution, I will not hesitate to drop you on that alone. You are a cancer to PF and should strongly consider moving to policy or LD.
As far as best practices go to win me over in PF (again, pretty basic stuff but I rarely see it in round): make sure you extend any offense you plan on using in the Final Focus through the summary, provide good impact calc (ex: why should I prefer saving lives over saving money?), and please give voters.
It amazes me when I hear people say "and if I have time, I'll give voters." Voters are by far the most important part of the Final Focus. You can't whine about being judge-screwed if you didn't do the work yourself and clarify what the judge should vote on.
Feel free to reach out with any questions: ashveersingh12@gmail.com