JW Patterson Invitational at Heritage Hall
2016 — OK/US
Lincoln Douglas Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideI am a former high school competitor with ten years experience coaching LD, PF, and extemp. I don't like speed. Debate is a communication activity, and if normal people cannot comprehend you, you are not actually communicating.
In general, I am reluctant to offer paradigms because the argumentation of each individual debater is much more important to me than any pre-set notion of what should happen in a round. As a classic LD debater, I tend to weigh value and criteria fairly heavily in the round -- but if you win the framework but debate everything else horribly, I will still vote against you. Ultimately, I will vote based on your voting issues. Convince me that the issues you've won are the most important in the round, and that's what I'll write on my RFD -- whether that's evidence, framework, or contention-level arguments.
You should know that I have zero background in policy debate and zero patience for people trying to transform LD into a one-person version of CX. I do not admire debaters who attempt to win by putting so many blippy arguments on the flow that your opponent cannot possibly answer them all. In general, please treat your opponent with courtesy and respect, or don't expect to get speaker points.
LD-
Speed- Medium to medium-fast (only really an issue if it gets in the way of speaking style, I don't like fast for the sake of fast). Criterion- May be a voting factor depending on its use in the round, but not always. Voting issues- fine to use, but I'll only vote on them if I agree debater won the argument. Speaking style/evidence/argumentation- all important!!
Policy- Speed- Medium to medium-fast (only really an issue if it gets in the way of speaking style, I don't like fast for the sake of fast). Policy Maker/ Stock Issues Only vote on Topicality if Aff is highly off topic or a squirrel case.
T
Do NOT run any sort of Topicality argument just to kick out of it in the block. I will not vote you up if you run T for the purpose of a time suck. But other than that, I will evaluate it if you do end up going for it in the end.
Procedurals
Speed: Spreading IS okay, I will want to be on your email chain or if you flash put me in it.
Card clipping: If you get called out on card clipping I will ask for the evidence and your proof.
Time keeping: Please keep your own time. I will not keep track of your prep time for you.
Prep time: Again, keep your own time. I do not count flashing as prep unless it takes more than a few minutes.
K's
neg
I am okay with kritiks. If you run high theory you better be able to explain it in the round. If you read one off and K, make the block neat. I will only vote on the K if you can give me an in depth alt debate and be able to explain your link analysis.
aff
If you decide to not read a plan text that is also okay. I will be able to follow you.
LD Paradigm
I am a former LD debater, having graduated high school in 2014 and had qualified for Nats in LD. When I debated, I would speak quickly, but would not spread. I'm okay with some speed, but not ecstatic about it. As a now law student, I find spreading or speaking quickly doesn't garner you any beneficial, real-life skill. Rather, if you can speak at a moderate pace and concisely articulate your arguments, you can easily best any opponent for me (and gain a useful skill along the way -- especially if you're thinking about a future legal career!)
You can run "progressive" arguments with me. However, you need to make sure you are actually explaining the argument well and not have me fill in the gaps for you. Many students run a K or a counterplan, yet fail to fully establish and connect the argument -- you have to walk it step by step.
I don't care much for the debate up at the Value level. Justice is good. Societal Welfare is good. It doesn't provide as much of a framework of the debate for me as the criterion does -- this gives me the lens the evaluate the round or how to view your case. Make sure your arguments link back to your criterion (how does X argument achieve your criterion, for example).
Lastly, and I say this from personal experience, be nice during the round. I have no tolerance for someone being rude during a round. That doesn't mean you can't be aggressive in making lots of arguments. However, constantly interrupting during CX, trying to just fluster your opponent, or making rude comments will automatically make you lose the round. Debate should be fun!
Feel free to ask me questions post-round if you have any!
(there's always a chance I forgot to update here, so check the date on the wiki to make sure this paradigm is current)
https://judgephilosophies.wikispaces.com/Thompson%2C+Nathan
Nathan Thompson
Norman HS 14
University of Oklahoma 18
Updated 15 September 2018 sitting in the cafeteria before Greenhill round 1
Background
I debated for Norman High School (OK) for four years, graduating in 2014. I qualified to NSDA Nationals my junior and senior year, breaking twice and placing 24th my junior year. I primarily debated in Oklahoma and did not have the resources to travel. I have worked at the UTNIF LD camp as an instructor in 2015, 2017, and 2018. I like email chains - nltpeasley@gmail.com
Preferences
Speaking Preferences
- Speed is fine. I will clear you twice if I cannot understand you.
- THAT SAID, please do not fly through analytics or theory. I am decent at flowing but hardly amazing; if you hit the jets while reading a bunch of blipping theory args, I am going to get lost and miss stuff on the flow.
- I only vote on stuff I've successfully flowed.
- Indicate where your cards and arguments begin and end and slow down for authors and tags.
Framework
- Value and criterion are not necessary so long as you give me a way to decide the ballot.
- Label your framework arguments as what they are - I don't like tricky preempts or prestandards that become more than what they were in the constructive.
Theory/T
- I default to competing interps, although I find I've gotten friendlier to reasonability args over the years.
- I am probably not the judge to read a half-dozen theory shells in front of - you can do it if you think it's strategic or (obviously) to check abuse, but know that I might not like it if you overdo it.
- You must have absolute clarity on what your interpretation is, especially if the text that you give your opponent is different than the one you read in round.
- I will listen to potential abuse as an argument.
- I do not know what Nebel T is and am not about to learn now. If you read anything like that, don't expect me to know any overly-specific jargon.
RVIs
- I will evaluate RVIs like anything else.
- I will evaluate 2AR RVIs in response to new 2NR theory.
- The RVI needs offense back to a counter-interp.
CX
- CX checks abuse!
- CX checks abuse!
- CX checks abuse!
- That said, I'm not flowing CX, so don't lie about what's happening there after the fact...
- Don't lie or intentionally obscure your answers.
- I don't care whether you sit or stand, but be engaged.
- Flex prep is fine as long as it's agreed to by both debaters.
Kritiks
- I am not opposed to Ks, but I'm not super well-read on the literature base; make sure you're clearly explaining what your K means and does. Remember that there are scholars who study some of these K authors for literal decades to understand them properly; you can at least give a simplified explanation here. None of us are experts.
- Make sure your alt doesn't suck. I am not enthusiastic about voting on vague K alts that you can't explain to any level of detail.
- Have clear tags.
- Your K should still link to an ethical framework.
Extension Evidence
- New evidence should only respond directly to an objection to the original argument - do not post-date the original card and do not read new offense.
Weighing
- Weighing is the difference between bad debate and decent debate. Please do it early and often. Explain your clash and interactions with their arguments.
- Give overviews in 2NR and 2AR that frame the round.
How to Get Good Speaks
- Weigh early and often through the round. Demonstrate how your arguments interact with others on the flow.
- Demonstrate a clear strategy and understanding of the importance of arguments on the flow. Don't just go for everything or straight down the flow.
- Collapse in the 2NR/2AR! It is not worth either of our time for you to go for everything every round.
- Be clear in CX. Good strategies needn't be disguised.
- Don't argue with me about my decision. I will dock you speaks.
If you are clear, I will probably give between a 28 (borderline) and 30 (perfect, you've done something laudable, or I learned something). If you are not clear, I will probably give you between a 26 and a 27.5. Any points lower than 26 will be for punitive reasons (overt aggression or rudeness, problematic, etc).
Closing
I think debate has a lot of potential for good, but it's going to take effort from both of us to ensure that it's reached. Ask me questions after round if you want. Just don't argue about the decision.
I participated in LD debate for four years in high school for Metro Christian Academy and the last year and a half in Parlimentary debate for the University of Oklahoma. My high school years made me into a very traditional debater as I debated on typically traditional circuits, but my experience in college has exposed me to some more progressive arguments like Ks, Counterplans, and theory; however, I am still more likely to fully understand and therefore vote on more traditional arguments.
I'm not a big fan of a lot of speed though I have been exposed to it. I lend more credence to the debater that better presents their arguments. I like to vote off framework and clashing arguments.
Essentially, I decide what framework to use then who gained the most ground on their side with arguments under that framework.
If there's anything I left out, feel free to ask.
Hey y’all, I’m Matt.
He/Him/His pronouns
(Please add me to the email chain: madwitman@gmail.com)
Few notes about me - I debated for four years at Edmond Santa Fe in Oklahoma where I competed in policy, public forum, and speech for a while but ended up having a successful career in LD. I participated at the national tournament for all four years in various events. I was a policy debater for a few years in college at the University of Oklahoma as well. Graduated in 2019 and ended up in Tulsa where I am a management and data ecosystem consultant for organizations devoted to social good.
**TOP-LEVEL NOTE**: I recognize debate can be tough on people in different ways and it’s not a fully-equitable sport. If there is something I can do to make the debate safer or more comfortable for you (calling you by a name not on your ballot, using a different pronoun that is listed, accommodating for a disability, etc.), I will absolutely do everything in my power to make the space more accessible and/or safe for you. If you don’t feel comfortable telling me in the debate, feel free to email me at madwitman@gmail.com.
I used to have a very long, drawn out paradigm that went through my preferences for each off-case position, debate style, etc. but I have since simplified it. I think debaters tend to overthink it and I would rather you debate how you want. Ultimately, debate gave me the space I needed to find myself and I hope it does the same for you. That said, read whatever you want to in front of me (pending it isn’t racist, sexist, transphobic, etc.). Debate how you are comfortable. I was a “critical” debater throughout high school and college but will absolutely vote on well-executed policy arguments. Please don’t feel the need to pull out your school’s old Time Cube backfile just because you read that I’m a K debater - although it would be hilarious.
Couple things:
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I’m fine with speed in any debate format, just be clear.
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Prep stops when the flash drive leaves the computer or the email is sent.
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“Extend X argument” requires a warrant, not just those words
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I value line-by-line analysis and technical debate but I think a great debater knows the art of combining ‘tech things’ with the big picture
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If you do read some critical argument or K, don’t assume I know all of the literature base/what you are talking about. I love a well-executed K with a good explanation of the base.
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Theory and framework are fine - just slow down a little on the blips. I flow on paper - it benefits you if my flow is as clear as possible.
I’m sure I’m missing something so if you have any additional questions, feel free to ask. Have fun and take care.
I am currently a policy and PF coach at Taipei American School. My previous affiliations include Fulbright Taiwan, the University of Wyoming, Apple Valley High School, The Harker School, the University of Oklahoma, and Bartlesville High School. I have debated or coached policy, LD, PF, WSD, BP, Congress, and Ethics Bowl.
Email for the chain: lwzhou10 at gmail.com
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TOC Public Forum
Put the Public back in Public Forum.
For the TOC, follow all of the evidence rules and guidelines listed in the tournament policies. I care a lot about proper citations, good evidence norms, clipping, and misrepresentation.
I won't vote for arguments spread, theory, kritiks, or anything unrelated to the truth or falsity of the resolution. I find it extremely difficult to vote for arguments that lack resolutional basis (e.g., most theory or procedural arguments, some kritikal arguments, etc.). I find trends to evade debate over the topic to be anathema to my beliefs about what Public Forum debate ought to look like.
I care that you debate the topic in a way that reflects serious engagement with the relevant scholarly literature. I would also prefer to judge debates that do not contain references to arcane debate norms or jargon.
Additionally, I expect that your evidence abides by NSDA rules as outlined in the NSDA Evidence Guide. If I find evidence that does not conform to these guidelines, I will minimally disregard that piece of evidence and maximally vote against you.
tl;dr won't blink twice about voting against teams that violate evidence rules or try to make PF sound like policy-lite.
Other Things
Exchanging evidence in a manner consistent with the NSDA's rules on evidence exchange has become a painfully slow process. Please simply set up an email chain or use an online file sharing service in order to quickly facilitate the exchange of relevant evidence. Calling for individual pieces of evidence appears to me as nothing more than prep stealing.
If the Final Focus is all read from the computer, just send me the speech docs before the debate starts to save us some time. I'll also cap your speaks at 28.5.
I do not believe that either team has any obligation to "frontline" in second rebuttal, but my preferences on this are malleable. If "frontlining" is the agreed upon norm, I expect that the second speaking team also devote time to rebuttals in the constructive speeches.
The idea of defense being "sticky" seems illogical to me.
There is also a strong trend towards under-developing arguments in an activity that already operates with compressed speech times. I also strongly dislike the practice of spamming one-line quotes with no context (or warrant) from a dozen sources in a single speech. I will reward teams generously if they invest in a few well-warranted arguments which they spend time meaningfully weighing compared to if they continue to shotgun arguments with little regard for their plausibility or quality.
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Policy
Stolen from Matt Liu: "Feb 2022 update: If your highlighting is incoherent gibberish, you will earn the speaker points of someone who said incoherent gibberish. The more of your highlighting that is incoherent, the more of your speech will be incoherent, and the less points you will earn. To earn speaker points, you must communicate coherent ideas."
I debated for OU back in the day but you shouldn't read too much into that—I wasn't ever particularly good or invested when I was competing. I lean more towards the policy side than the K side and I'm probably going to be unfamiliar with a lot of the ins-and-outs of most kritiks, although I will do my best to fairly evaluate the debate as it happens.
1. I tend to think the role of the aff is to demonstrate that the benefits of a topical plan outweigh its costs and that the role of the neg is to demonstrate that the costs and/or opportunity costs of the aff's plan outweigh its benefits.
2. I find variations of "fairness bad" or "logic/reasoning bad," to be incredibly difficult to win given that I think those are fundamental presuppositions of debate itself. Similarly, I find procedural fairness impacts to be the best 2NRs on T/Framework.
3. Conditionality seems obviously good, but I'm not opposed to a 2AR on condo. Most other theory arguments seem like reasons to reject the argument, not the team. I lean towards reasonability. Most counterplan issues seem best resolved at the level of competition, not theory.
4. Warrant depth is good. Argument comparison is good. Both together—even better.
5. Give judge instruction—tell me how to evaluate the debate.
None of these biases are locked in—in-round debating will be the ultimate determinant of an argument’s legitimacy.
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WSD
My debate experience is primarily in LD, policy, and PF. I do not consider myself well-versed in all the intricacies or nuances of WSD strategy and norms. My only strong preference is that want to see well-developed and warranted arguments. I would prefer fewer, better developed arguments over more, less-developed arguments.
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Online Procedural Concerns
1. Follow tournament procedure regarding online competition best practices.
2. Record your speeches locally. If you cut out and don't have a local backup, that's a you problem.
3. Keep your camera on when you speak, I don't care if it's on otherwise. Only exception is if there are tech or internet issues---keeping the camera off for the entirety of the debate otherwise is a good way to lose speaker points.
4. I'll keep my camera off for prep time, but I'll verbally indicate I'm ready before each speech and turn on the camera for your speeches. If you don't hear me say I'm ready and see my camera on, don't start.
5. Yes, I'll say clear and stuff for online rounds.