Alpharetta Treasure Hunt
2023 — Alpharetta, GA/US
Novice Public Forum Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideI have been debating public forums for about 6 years now, I am currently a senior at Lovett.
Please sign post and talk clearly, anything I don’t understand won’t be flowed.
Crossfire won’t be flowed but I will still be listening.
I also like impact calculus and weighing in the final focus and summary, please tell me why I should vote for you
Last thing, I really dislike stalling prep so please follow the time format efficiently or as best as you can
Treat me as a lay judge. Spreading in a debate is strongly discouraged. DO NOT Spread! If you try to do a "speed talking data dump" I will assume it is to cover a lack of deeper understanding of your subject. I prefer a slow, clear delivery that demonstrates a logical analysis and speaks directly to/rebuts points made by the opposing team. It is the burden of the debater to make sure the arguments are flowable.
Hi!
In your debate, please keep in mind the handy acronym IMNFSTEPWR.
If you spread, please send a speech doc.
Make sure everything is warranted. I won't evaluate stuff if you just tell me to extend it.
No completely new arguments in summary or final focus. I won't evaluate them.
Frontline in 2nd response.
Signpost! Make sure I know where you are during your speeches to keep my flow clean.
Try to avoid progressive args - I don't have much experience evaluating them. If you really want to run theory or K's, make sure they're reasonable and you give me a realistic way that it should affect my ballot.
Extend. I won't evaluate anything in final focus that isn't extended in summary.
Please keep your own time and keep me updated on prep.
Weighing should be comparative, don't just give me your numbers, give me theirs. Metaweigh and tell me why your weighing mechanisms should be preferred.
Racism, homophobia, sexism, etc. will lose you the round.
When you read your first turn, if you do a spin jump and read "This is a massive 180!" I'll give you +0.5 speaker points.
I'm a parent judge. I have a moderate experience judging. I like it when at the end, you tell me why I should vote for your framework and your impacts.
hi I’m Arya (she/her), and I'm a sophomore at Emory. I did PF in Minnesota, and competed on the national & MN circuit for 4 years. if you have any questions before the round, please ask!
tldr: normal flow judge, collapse, extend (warrants not just taglines), weigh, have fun in round
if there is anything I can do to accommodate you before the round, reach out on Messenger or email (arya.mirza23@gmail.com)
general:
- if you're gonna spread send a doc
- tech>truth
- implicate your responses - tell me what they mean in the context of your round instead of card dumping
- signpost! I will not know where you are if you aren’t signposting and will probably miss stuff
- warranted analytic>unwarranted evidence
- collapse
- don't spread against novices
- I'll presume whichever team reads a presumption warrant, and if neither does, I'll presume first
- you can postround just don‘t be rude about it
- read content warnings for sensitive topics with an option to opt out. form template here, feel free to make a copy and use this.
crossfire:
- don't be that one person that cuts everyone off and doesn't let people speak
- nothing from cross flowed unless you mention it in a speech
2nd rebuttal:
- frontline
- don't read DAs or offensive overviews in 2nd rebuttal
summary and FF:
- defense is not sticky, extend it in both summary & FF if you want me to evaluate it
- weighing is the most important part in the back half of the round, please make a comparative. 3 second blips of buzzwords is not weighing.
- extend your argument fully–uniqueness link internal link impact–otherwise I can't vote off it
progressive args:
- please stop having theory debates where you're not engaging at the basic level, like reading a CI but not responding to no RVIs, it makes it really hard for you to win the round
- I don’t know K lit well so if you’re going to run one, explain the argument super clearly
- I am predisposed to thinking friv theory bad but I won't auto drop you just for reading it
evidence:
- paraphrasing is fine, just do it ethically please (and don't paraphrase 12 paragraphs in one sentence)
- every card you read needs to be cut; if any evidence is called for, send the cut + the paraphrase that you read. if you don't have the cut card it's off my flow
speaks:
- entirely based on strategic in round decisions, not speaking style, way you dress, etc.
- speaks go up if you start weighing in rebuttal
- speaks go down for bad extensions (a tagline is not an extension), misconstruing evidence, and hacking prep
- do not be any kind of -ist or I will intervene
overall, be nice in round and have fun :)
Hi, I've been doing debate for 8 years now. I do college policy now. I'm “tech” (tabula rasa, will vote for pretty much any argument, won't do any work for you, etc etc)
TLDR:(1) and (11) under "General Preferences" + (1), (4), and (5) under "On the Flow"
Bergen YS is peak
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General Preferences
1) Start an email chain BEFORE the round please. Yes I want to be added at ymcdebate@gmail.com
2) Time yourselves please
3) We don't have to start right away but let's try to get going by the official start time
4) Call me Bruce, Bobby, Judge, Sensei, or Vengeance, I don't really care just don't be disrespectful
5) Don't be a jerk or racist pls
6) Quality > Quantity (but do whatever your heart desires)
7) If you're recording pls get everyone's (including mine and the tournaments) approval first
8) I've coached on UNSC so IK what's up for the most part but please assume I haven't done any research
9) pls don't steal prep >:(
10) I think the debate space should be more accessible. While I do have coaching obligations, if you're looking for further feedback after the round, want to do redos, want me to look over something, etc, I'm happy to do so just lmk
11) If there's anything I can do to accommodate your needs don't be afraid to reach out or ask
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On the flow
1) I'm open to voting on any argument so long as it's not racist, homophobic, sexist, etc. DeDev is as equally a valid argument as "SUPs are bad for the environment so we should ban them" is.
2) You should frontline in 2nd rebuttal
3) I'm cool with extrapolation/cross apps as long as they aren't super brand new BUT generally the rule of thumb is if it wasn't in the constructive speeches (or 1st summary) it probably doesn't belong in the back half
4) You need warrants. I don't care if they're good warrants. I don't care if they are you made them up. You just need warrants. You need to You need to have a complete link chain for any offense read. You need to extend 100% of the link chain on any offense you go for. The one thing I'm rude about is having implications and warrants. If you don't give me (and extend) every basic part of the argument I probably won't vote on it. If there's no implication (reason why it matters on my ballot) I probably won't vote on it. FOR EXAMPLE:
"SUPs are bad for us and the environment" Ok? So how does the aff change that??
"Pref neg on timeframe because econ decline happens immediately and climate change takes years" Ok? So why do I care??
If I can ask myself "So what?" on any line of your analysis, you are probably doing something wrong
So PLEASE make sure you have clear extensions and implications. The more specific your internal link and solvency, the better off you'll be.
5) Signpost. I NEED you to signpost. Tell me where you're at and number of responses/frontlines
6) Empirics aren’t responses without a warrant. They prove your side of the argument is more probable but they still need an argument to be paired with.
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Weighing
1) Weighing should start in the summaries (rebuttal if you're chill like that) so avoid going too new in final with it
2) Weighing is great, try to do it (ideally for all offense including turns)
3) Weighing is great but it's a waste of our time if it isn't comparative. Probability is not a real weighing mechanism (90% of the time) and I'm able to tell that 900k deaths is greater than 11 deaths on my own, thank you
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Progressive Args
Ks:
I'm a K debater myself now, I read Beller, SO I'm 100% cool with you running a K. A soft left aff is ideal, a topical link is good, but tbh I'll still vote on something 100% non-T if you want me to. My big caveat is that you need to explain EVERY PART of the argument (top to bottom) in basic, easy-to-follow terms. Beyond the fact that I literally might just not get the argument right away, it's still an argument just like any other topical AC/NC. If the extent of your solvency explanation on the alt is "we're an intervention in the word economy of the debate space" I will physically throw a fit. Other than that you're good to go if you want to have a K round.
Theory:
To keep this short: I think debate kind of needs to have a solid foundation in post-fiat args BUT I also don't believe in the idea of arguments being "friv". If you're winning the warrant debate, I see no difference between a disclosure shell and shoe theory. Trix are for kids and that's y'all so have at it. Only three things to note on theory
a) I will hold you to the same standard for a link chain/extension as any other argument. So you have to have the interp, violation, standard (at least the one(s) you go for), impact, and DTD in both back half speeches.
b) I don't believe in this "spirit of the text" nonsense by default. You can 100% make arguments for it, and I'll be 100% tabula rasa about it, but you read what you read so just saying the words "doesn't matter because the spirit of the interp/text" is not going to cut it
c) I actually tend to lean towards RVIs good by default so if your opps go for RVIs you have to win the warrant debate on why they shouldn't be considered (ie just saying "no RVIs" isn't going to cut it)
Other than that, go nuts.
Framing/ROTB:
I have no problem with framing in and of itself. However, I DO have a problem with the way that they tend to be run in PF. IF you plan on reading either framing or a ROTB that's completely fine but please do note that
a) There is a difference between a ROTB and framing. If you don't know the difference, don't read a ROTB.
b) Not to beat a dead horse but yk, framing/ROTBs need to be extended (at least in summary and final idrc about rebuttal) with 100% of the warranting you're going for. Saying "extend our structural violence framing about stopping hidden violence" is NOT a proper extension
c) pls don't read framing and then read arguments that don't fit under your framing
d) Even "moral obligation" arguments still require warrants as to why we have a moral obligation to do X
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Speaker Points
Easy ways to lose speaks:
- Repeatedly cut your opponents off
- Be rude to anyone in the round
- Taking super long to pull up ev
- Extending through ink
- Not signposting
- Calling everything dropped when it's not
- Unclear speed
Easy ways to gain speaks:
- Throw in a Taylor Swift or Pusha T reference
- Having fun with it
- Bringing me long flow paper
- Signposting well
- Good weighing
- Smart strategy
- Calling states in Eastern Europe "Yugoslavia"
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Evidence
1) I won't look at evidence unless you tell me to and I won't call for evidence unless you tell me to
2) I think evidence should be the arena, not the fight. I will almost always prefer good warrants over good ev
3) Please try to be somewhathonest about ev
4) I'm not the "send all ev before speech" type but I also do think you should have ev ready to go and be willing to share if your opps ask for it
5) I'm letting you know now if you ev challenge in front of me, you'll probably lose. I have a pretty high threshold for what misrepresentation of ev is worth losing a whole round over. Unless your opponents are doing something legitimately unethical, then I probably would avoid ev challenges.
6) If there is a clash on evidence, do the ev (and or warrant comparison), don't make me intervene pls
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FAQ
- Can I use speed? Yeah I mean go for it but make sure you're clear, ideally send a doc, and keep in mind that if I can't flow it without looking at your doc then I'm probably not writing it down.
- Is defense sticky? iS deFeNSe sTiCky? no. it's not.
- Can I read new wieghing in final? too late pal (unless its a response to new weighing in summary)
- Is cross open? Sure we ball
- Why are we still doing this activity? If you find an answer please let me know
- Does a split panel change my judging prefs? Generally, I still want all of the procedural things to meet my normal prefs BUT I will give y'all a bit more credence on things like extensions or the LbyL just don't be egregious
- Is cross binding? I mean generally yes but you can make arguments as to why it shouldn't be
Spreading is strongly discouraged. Please keep your delivery at a reasonable pace and speak clearly. I appreciate a clear analysis of why you should win in the final focus.
I’m Jodie and I’m a past debater from Starr’s Mill and I’m a current student at UGA studying music (viola) and bio so you can asks about that if you want. The most important thing for me is that both teams are having fun and being respectful. Please weigh in summary and FF and make it easier for me to vote. If your off-time road map is “First I’m going to attack their case and then go over my case and weigh” or some iteration of that, I don’t need to hear it, you should be doing that already. Sign post, extend, weigh please! I don’t flow cross. If I can’t understand it, I can’t flow it so please try not to talk way too fast or mumble. Let’s have a good time!
Debate should be about dialog and not confrontation. I realize people get excited when stating and reinforcing a point of view, but please let’s keep it civilized.
Be mindful of your allotted time and articulate your points clearly and concisely.
I like to see eye contact, knowledge of your topic, and interchange between debaters when proving/disproving points.
I am not impressed by debaters repeating the same data points constantly until the allotted time is exhausted or reading a computer screen at 200 miles an hour; rapid speaking is acceptable if it is understandable.
If you want to win, persuade me into viewing the argument from your point of view; you may do this by demonstrating knowledge breadth and depth about the topic you are defending. It is not only about stating your position on the resolution, but you must also be able to defend it and prove to me why your position is the best position during the crossfires.
Cards may be sent to ntillero@comcast.net
I have been doing PF for a number of years and I am a varsity debater. Some important things you should know are...
Don't be afraid to call for your opponent's card during a cross-fire if their argument seems extreme. I do not require you to use your prep time to read your opponent's card. An argument is only as good as its source, so be ready to share these if asked to.
I don't flow cross-fire. If you think something happened in a cross-fire that improves your argument then reiterate that in your speeches.
I will be timing but make sure to be aware of your own time. I will not flow anything said after your time is up.
Finally, be respectful of the other team and avoid interrupting each other. I will not tolerate any racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.