Jim Sauer Invitational at La Crosse Central
2022 — NSDA Campus, WI/US
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West Allis Central High School (in Milwaukee, WI)- 3 yrs (Policy)
I have been participating either through debating or judging for most of the last 16 years.
If I said I'm trying to be as clean of a slate as possible when judging, I'd be lying. I vote on mostly everything as long as there are good arguments made and carried through the final speeches.
Things that will upset me and make me want to leave.
- The spray and pray (You just make random args with no content just for the sake of making them)
- When you try to spread (speed read), but can't keep it clear. If I look confused, I am. I can keep up with your speed if reasonable. The more I judge, the more I see the students getting faster and faster to just get cards on the page rather than advancing their arguments and making strong arguments. If you're reading fast just to get cards out so you can call your opponent out for dropping them, that's bad debate.
- When you run arguments incompletely, and decide to go for it (i.e. Counterplans with no CP text, DAs with no link or uniqueness or impact, T with no standards or voters)
- If you stand up there and say nothing during your speech
I love clash, clash is fun. I can't be mad at a passive-aggressive CX or debate because I was notorious for that, but when you show your whole behind then it gets awkward and I will probably dock your speaks if it's unwarranted.
The one thing I love more than clash is when the debater does the work for me. This is often achieved through good line by lines and impact calcs.
Performance debates, T, and weird alts are fine. Kritiks are off-the-wall for me, so run it slow for me.
Theory and framework debates- I need you to definitely slow down on these arguments if you want me to flow everything and get a good understanding of the arguments. These also need an impact calculus.
I've been a Nat Circuit PF/LD/Policy judge, a NAUDL policy judge, and a HS policy debater.
In case you read this, good for you. I assume most of you won't, which is fine but then don't expect high speaks.
David Henning—LD Debate Judging Philosophy
2024 NCFL National Debate Tournament Edition
School Affiliation: Director of Debate at Sheboygan South
School Email: dhenning@sasd.net
LD/PF/Policy Rounds judged this season: 53/1/1
Lifetime (LD/PF/Policy): 460/76/2101
Years Judging: 40
IMPORTANT—READ FIRST. Over the course of the last few years, I have noticed several disturbing developments in LD. Stuff I never thought I’d have to discuss. I have that at the end of this philosophy, after the always relevant quotes. Given that we're at nationals, I hope that none of these comments are necessary. Please read allof my paradigm before preferencing or debating in front of me.
My experience with academic debate: I began my debate career during the Carter Administration. I was a policy debater in high school and college during the 1980s. I was an independent (mostly high school) policy debate judge for many years. This is my fourteenth year as Sheboygan South's debate coach, and I was a college policy debate coach for four years. This is my seventh year of coaching L-D debate. I've had some success both as a debater and as a coach. And I have many funny debate stories.
My Paradigm: Tabula Rasa, but please don’t insult my intelligence or agency. Don't tell me I "have to" do or vote for something. Ignore my philosophy at your own peril. Ask if you are unsure. I’m coming closer to Bill Batterman’s Critique of Argument paradigm as applied to LD, since some policy debate paradigms make little sense in LD, although hypothesis testing has some appeal. I like original, unusual or counter-intuitive arguments when done well. Do not assume that anything is inherently good or bad. Far too many debaters assume that things like wasting money, destroying the Constitution or climate change are inherently bad and fail to read impacts to them. I don’t care about “wasted money” and want you to put the bodies on the flow. Hopefully all of them. Provide impacts and analysis if you’re not doing so. And be aware that I oppose "common sense," especially in a debate round.
Technology Time: For this tournament there is 10 minutes allotted to deal with technological issues that may affect the round. If you think you might have tech issues, say something so we can get it resolved. See tournament rules for more information.
Argumentation: A well-written, structured and reasoned case is essential for both debaters. That includes substructure. Be aware that evidence matters, so does evidence quality. Provide qualifications, when possible, for the sources you use and tell me why your evidence is of high quality and/or better than the evidence used by your opponent. Clash directly with the arguments your opponent makes. That means the line-by-line rather than just an argument dump or an overview. Tell me specifically why you achieve your value as defined by your value criterion (or achieve your opponent’s) and why that means you should win the round. Do impact calculus, telling me why the impacts of your case are worse than or outweigh that of your opponent. This is probably the most important thing you can do in the round. Provide a few clearly explained voting issues near the end of your last rebuttal and make a convincing call for the ballot.
Policy Debate or “National-Style” Arguments: I debated and coached both high school and college policy debate, and judged policy debate for 30 plus years. I like policy debate. I am open to pretty much anything you can throw at me. That said, I don’t think LD is a particularly good forum or format for many of the policy arguments. Kritiks, counterplans and disadvantages are necessary, but in LD they are nebulous since there isn’t an agent of change in the resolution, affirmatives usually do not offer a specific plan, and whether there is fiat in LD is another issue altogether. How can the K, CP or DA link if there isn’t a plan? Those running such arguments will want to keep that in mind and explain very clearly how their arguments are linked to the aff or the resolution. Likewise, an affirmative claiming solvency or advantages must meet that same burden. The same holds for kritiks, at least those based on policy action.
The format issue may be even more important. In policy debate, you have more speeches with which to refute and extend arguments. Ks, CPs and DAs introduced in the policy 1NC mean that both aff and neg can get to third line arguments. Fewer speeches means less developed arguments. You physically cannot get past first and sometimes second line argumentation in LD. Speeches are shorter than in policy, which means less time to develop such arguments and read cards. The end result is that debaters just read their argument, the opponent reads their first line answers, and that’s it. For complex (or really cool) arguments, this is unsatisfying and shallow. I really don’t have a solution to any of these issues, and I don’t reject policy arguments in LD, but this is something to keep in mind.
Topicality: Don’t, unless it is particularly egregious. I dislike topicality. Unless you can show me actual, in-round abuse I’m not interested. Don’t tell me that the aff reduces education when you’re doing just that by running lousy topicality arguments.
Framework: Framework is usually so poorly argued I rarely see the point. A framework is an integral part of Lincoln-Douglas debate. By this I am referring to the value and value criterion for the round and/or the role of the ballot. You must specifically define and explain your value, hopefully something better than an ill-defined “morality.” That’s subjective and pretty much every social or cultural group has their own morality. The Nazis had their own “morality”--horrible, but defined. The word "ought" does not imply morality. Define and explain your value criterion. Tell me how your case will best achieve your value as defined by your value criterion. You may attack the framework and case of your opponent or demonstrate how your case better achieves your opponent’s value as defined by their value criterion. Argue the superiority of your value/value criterion to that of your opponent. Be clear with your analysis. If there is a Role of the Ballot you must explain that also. If there are policy arguments, you must say why you outweigh your opponent’s arguments.
Debate Theory: Theory has its place, somewhere, but it is never argued well in LD rounds. Don’t read cards from some debate coach at me. Why is that coach more qualified than you, me or someone judging in the next room? OK, why are they more qualified than me? Explain your theory positions and tell me why they matter in this round. What are the in-round impacts to your theory argument? Are there impacts on the activity itself? Does my ballot have a role in your theory argument? If you are claiming some kind of “abuse” of theory, show me the actual in-round abuse—potential abuse is not enough—and tell me why it should be voted against. I can’t remember the last time I voted on an abuse argument.
Quotes Related to my Judging Philosophy (ask if you have questions)
“It’s a basic truth of life that we tend to give more credence to the opinions of people who know what they are talking about.”---Kel McClanahan.
“Add it up, it all spells duh.”---Buffy Summers
“Yankee detective are always on the TV, ‘cause killers in America work seven days a week.”—Joe Strummer (The Clash)
“They tell lots of lies about me. They say I killed six or seven men for snoring. Well, it ain’t true. I only killed one man for snoring.”---John Wesley Hardin
"Twenty years of schoolin' and they put you on the day shift."---Bob Dylan
“Facts are stupid things.”---Ronald Reagan
"Sometimes I think this job is too much for me."---Warren Harding, on the Presidency
“People say Bob, what do you do with the money we send you? We spend it.”--- Pastor Robert Tilton
“The most popular songs are always the worst.”---Natalie Maines
“Without freedom of speech I might be in the swamp.”---Bob Dylan
"The numbers don't lie. . . I got a hundred forty-three and a thirds percents of winning."---Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner, and reprised by Maxwell Jacob Friedman
"That was the equation! Existence! Survival must cancel out programming."---Ruk, planet Exo III
"You talk about your Olympic gold medal--big whup. I was all-county in the triple jump."---AJ Styles, to Kurt Angle
"The judge's jokes are always funny."---Dan Hansen
"She's a monster of staggering charmlessness and monumental lack of humor."---Richard Burton on Lucille Ball
“A stitch in time gets the worm.”---Buffy Summers
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it rhymes.”---Mark Twain
“The Good Earth—we could have saved it, but we were too damn cheap and lazy.”—Kurt Vonnegut
"Wrong thinking is punishable; right thinking is as quickly rewarded."—The Keeper, planet Talos IV
". . . there are no truths outside the gates of Eden.”—Bob Dylan
"What is truth, if you know what I mean?”—Lionel Hutz
"When Stalin says dance, a wise man dances."—Nikita Khrushchev
"Nothing really matters much, it’s doom alone that counts."—Bob Dylan
and
“You know, it actually can happen. I mean, the chances of it happening are very rare, but it can happen actually. Which is crazy. Not that it—the chances of it are, like, you know, it's like probably “pigs could fly.” Like, I don't think pigs could fly, but actually sharks could be stuck in tornados. There could be a sharknado."---Tara Reid
LD General Issues
This is not English class or forensics. Do not write your case as if it were an assignment that you are going to turn in to your teacher. It’s not an essay. Nor is it an oratory or persuasive speech. Do not “preview” the names of all of your contentions, and then go back and read them. Start with the first contention. Then go to the second contention (if you have one). Provide me with some substructure. I don’t want a preview like you would do in a school paper or presentation or a forensics speech. Previewing messes up my flow. And note that you must use evidence in your case.
Put the citation first, before you read your card, not after. Many judges try to get the tag and the cite. I won’t know it’s a card if you read the cite after your evidence, and then where should I put the cite? You’re already on to the next argument or card. Read the tag line, name and date, then the body of the card. Provide the complete citation in a small font size (8)—that means qualifications, source, the link if it’s an on-line source, date of evidence, date you accessed the evidence and your initials. If you fail to provide a complete cite, or even a partial one, then all I have is some writing by someone with a last name and a date. I can’t treat that as evidence if I can’t see the full cite should it be necessary for me to do so. This does not mean a list of internet links at the end of your speech. That’s useless for debate (and academic) purposes.
Provide the Correct Date. This is the date the article or book was published, not the day you accessed it online. Virtually every online article lists the date the article was first published. Use that date. If the article was updated, and you are accessing the updated article, use that date.
Do Not Use Ellipses ( . . . ). In academic writing it is acceptable to cut out chunks of text you do not want to use. That is not OK in debate. You must keep all the text of the card. If you do not, judges and debaters don’t know if you cut out something important, like “not” or “never.” That’s taking a card out of context. Shrink the text you are not reading to a small font size (8). Both Paperless Debate and the Google Debate Add-on have a shrink feature. Use it. If your opponent notices ellipses in the body of your card and points it out in the round, then it is no longer a card. If ellipses are in the original, indicate that.
Do Use Brackets [ ] sparingly. Brackets are appropriate for brief explanatory or clarifying text. A few words, maybe a sentence. Use sparingly and only when essential. If you’re adding multiple sentences to your card, you are altering the card itself, and that is inappropriate. Adding a lot of text is akin to taking a card out of context or fabricating it altogether.
Delivery Style: Speak loudly and be clear. That is the most important thing. I work hard to try to get down as much of each speech as possible on my flow. Speak toward me, not your opponent. If it is especially noisy then speak louder. Your points may suffer and I may miss arguments if I can’t hear you clearly. I don't care if you sit or stand. Don't walk around. I don’t care about eye contact or gestures or a forensics-style polished or memorized speech. That stuff is meaningless in a debate round.
Do not expect 30 speaker points. The magical speaker point pixies have been very active the last few years. I have never seen so many 30s given out by judges. No one I have seen this year has warranted a 30. I have not given a 30 in fifteen years. 29s are relatively rare, but I do give them. I gave a 29.5 and seven 29s this season. And remember (coaches and judges take note of this) that there are tenths (or halves) of a point, and I use them regularly. The strangest thing is that I have not changed the way I award speaker points. I was once one of the highest speaker point judges, and now I am one of the lowest. But don't worry, I haven't given less than a 25 in seventeen years.
Heed my “louder” and “clear” warnings. Many debaters ask me if I am OK with speed. I answer yes. I seriously doubt if you're fast enough to give me trouble. But clarity is much more important than rate. Often it goes like this: I answer yes, the debater then proceeds to speak at a much faster than normal (conversational) rate, but is unclear. I shout “clear.” No change in delivery. A little while later I again shout “clear.” No change. In my previous philosophy I said I may deduct a speaker point after repeated “clear” warnings. I will now deduct a half speaker point if I have to give a “clear” warning after three. At some point I will give up shouting “clear” and your speaker points will suffer a little more. You have been warned, because clarity is key.
Have a way for your opponent to see your case and evidence. Use NSDA File Share in the competition room. You can also put the document in the chat. Use email chains if that fails. Include the judge in the chain. Should evidence be challenged in the round, judges and competitors must have access to this.
No New Arguments in Rebuttals. New arguments in rebuttals diminish or eliminate the opportunity for your opponent to respond. I will not vote on or consider new arguments in rebuttals, whether your opponent points this out or not.
Other issues. A roadmap is short, just the order, like aff, then neg, or the other way. Don’t tell me every argument you plan to make, or all the things you plan to refute. And you refute or rebut opponents' arguments, not "rebuttal" them. Don’t read a bunch of definitions at me—it’s usually pointless and is difficult to get down on the flow. Use all your prep time. Even if you don’t think you need it (you do), I need it to write comments. I will be unhappy if you don’t use all your prep time. I disclose and provide comments, and I encourage you to ask questions after my decision and comments.
Kimberly Herrera
Brookfield Central High Scool
Brookfield, WI
Experience: 4 years judging; 1 year policy, 3 years LD/PF
In an LD round, whoever achieves the accepted value and value criterion better will win the round. I’m traditional in that I do like you to debate the framework. Don’t ignore it and flow it through the round.
I value clash. That goes for all divisions. Make sure you’re attacking your opponent’s case equally to defending yours. Give me line-by-line analysis and impact analysis. It’s nice if you tell me your voters, but if you don’t, I’ll fall back to the framework debate and decide who achieves it better. I don't like theory arguments, unless you can make it clear on what the theory is and explain it thoroughly.
In policy I flow all arguments. I look for solvency in the round. If there is no solvency then I'll weigh the round based on impacts. Counterplans are okay, I’m less familiar with Kritiks. If you’re going to run it, make sure you explain it well.
I don’t prefer speed. I can handle it to an extent but be clear and enunciate. If you’re going too fast I’ll tell you. I do allow using your phone as timers.
I will only disclose if I know my decision. If I do not know my decision, I will let the students go while I look through my flow and decide.
I also dont give oral critiques, i will write them on the ballot.
My email is johnson@muhs.edu
LD
I am a debate coach who was a competitor at Nationals in World Schools and Congressional Debate, and was mainly a PF debater when competing. That being said, I have coached and judged LD extensively in the past year.
Please ensure that we are debating the LD format, not Policy-lite. That means a few things.
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Values and Value Criterions are extremely important and are central to who will win this round. If you do not keep these well-connected to your arguments, it will be difficult for me to weigh your arguments as strongly if they do not connect back into your VC.
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All-out spreading is not necessary or appreciated. If you are speaking so fast that it is impossible to flow your arguments, then I cannot weigh them in good faith. Win on the strength of your arguments and analysis, not by trying to overwhelm the opponent. Quality over quantity.
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If you choose to use them, run K’s well. If they are not run in well, it ends up muddying the waters of the debate and taking time away from other approaches you could probably use more effectively. K’s are complex strategies- explain your points clearly and tie them into the larger debate.
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LD debates involve morals, values, philosophy. Please use these things that make this format distinct.
As for more general points, here are some preferences I have as a judge.
Signposting and roadmaps, both in the introduction and throughout the speeches, are greatly appreciated. Keep your points clear and well-organized. Just because something is clear in your head does not automatically mean you are communicating it effectively.
I am not a fan of T-Shells in general. I would prefer to see a debate about the topic at hand, not a debate about the format in a general sense. This does not mean it is impossible to win with one, but please engage with the topic and with your opponent.
Ask good questions, and build off of them in your speeches. In the same sense, try not to waste time on rambling, disorganized answers. Keep CX dynamic and fast, and make it valuable. If something is conceded in CX, don’t just ignore that it happened. I certainly won’t.
Be ethical. No racism, homophobia, ad hominem attacks, or anything of that sort will be tolerated. You are all capable of good decorum, so show it! Approach the round with good faith, and debate as such.
Please use weighing and voters in your later speeches. Analyze the round and show me why you win.
- School Affiliation: Verona Area High School
- Competitor Experience:N/A
- Judging Frequency: A few times.
- Speaking Speed:Students can speak at a moderate pace.
- Cues for Speaking:Yes, I will give cues if a student is speaking too fast or unclear. I will raise my hand to signal for them to slow down or speak more clearly.
Evaluating the Round:
- Framework Evaluation: I prioritize evaluating the round based on the clarity and consistency of the framework presented by debaters. A strong framework is crucial for understanding the arguments.
Expectation of Value and Value Criterion:
- I expect debaters to clearly define their value and value criterion. The value should align with the framework, and the criterion should provide a measurable standard for achieving the value.
Thoughts on Plan Texts, Counterplans, or Kritiks:
- I approach plan texts, counterplans, and kritiks with an open mind. I appreciate well-structured plans, innovative counterplans, and thoughtful kritiks. Clear and logical presentation of these arguments is essential.
Decision Criteria:
- My decision criteria are based on the overall strength of the arguments presented, adherence to the established framework, effective use of evidence, and the ability to respond to opponent's points. I value clarity, coherence, and strategic thinking in making my decision.
Email: chiefofstaff@iPresidentoftheunitedstates.com
Debated during the Mesozoic Era, otherwise known as the Dinosaur period. 1979-1982 at the University of Denver. Our debate/forensics team was nationally ranked back in the day. I participated in all the debate events our school registered for, some required traveling to west coast/east coast.
Will give solid points for understanding and thus presenting the arguments versus cut and paste. The person winning the debate is the one that can persuade me they have identified the problem and have the solution. During rebuttal, all contentions should be rebutted and not ignored. If one side has 3 contentions and only 2 are rebutted, then it is assumed you table that 1 argument giving advantage to the opposing side. Solid cross examination allows me to flow your understanding of the key elements of the opposing sides presentation. Use your time wisely and if you are nervous, slow it down, and look me in the eyes versus reading a script. Pause, breath, and consider what you are saying. Remember, everything you say is important. Show me you understand the resolution entirely and whether affirmative or negative, you can present an argument that indicates you have fully grasped the issue.
If you present your case in a fast read aspect where you are trying to read as quickly as you can possibly read, and expect me as a judge to flow everything based on your speed, it will not gain any advantages with me. You as a debater have sufficient time to speak normally and outline your aff/neg argument based on the facts and philosophies relating to the resolution. Be persuasive. This is a debate. This is an opportunity to use your argumentative skills to challenge conventional thoughts toward why the resolution should be affirmed or not affirmed. Stephen Douglas and Abraham Lincoln did not speed read in their debate. History points out that both were exceptional in how they argued their positions. These resolutions are wide in their interpretations and your job as a debater is to look at the roadmap that convinces me you should win. Values, criteria, etc are all relevant and should not be ignored.
My Judge Skills: Used my debate experience in the Federal Courts as a pro-se litigant to protect my intellectual properties and am renown via my case winning of 56-0, protecting marks Zoo Mania, Funky Monkeys, iVote, iPresident, ZOO, etc. One such case was reported in the Federal Supplement case law in 2012 for future cases, Rice v. Petedge. The issue was decided by the Chief Justice of the 11th Circuit in my favor to decide how jurisdiction could be determined with the advent of cross border usage of a registered mark. Previously, jurisdiction was based on where sales originated, now websites selling via a domain have thus changed the rules of the game. My case opened the door to new understanding of the law and was debated with the opposing side represented by one of the oldest most elite law firms in the US, McCarter & English. As with debate, my presentation was more persuasive and using the facts, won.
Have used flow charts with attention to details and the back and forth of how a debater presents their case, the cross examination, and the rebuttal. Good luck to each debater.
Background:
I debated PF for four years, went to NCFL three times in PF. I debated LD for a month and have primarily judged LD the previous years.
I've been judging pretty consistently since Fall 2017.
I'm currently a Political Science PhD candidate, so I have an extensive background in a lot of theories and the current events in the world. If you want to run some political theory- beautiful.
LD:
I am a mostly traditional judge. I am not a huge fan of Ks and Theory, but I will pick it up if it is run really, really well.
And by really, really well, I mean God-Tier. There is nothing worse than underdeveloped theory. Ks can be fun and interesting, but only if run right.
Honestly, I kinda hate T Shells. Debate about the topic at hand, don't debate about debate.
FOR NCFLS: LD is NOT ALLOWED to use a plan or counter-plan. I WILL be following this, as per NCFL rules.
PF:
I like weighing and cost-benefit analysis. Body count is something that I weigh heavily in rounds. Make sure you have evidence to back up your points!
Also, I'm rather strict on the rule of not being allowed to bring up new evidence or points in final focus.
Time:
I will keep track of time. Please use your time wisely. If you go over, you can finish your sentence/thought, but anything more than that I will stop flowing.
Speed:
I can handle speed, but not a fan of spreading. It doesn't belong in LD/PF. "How do you know you are spreading?" you ask. Are you hyperventilating or foaming at the mouth? Yes? That is spreading. Calm down, please. No need to die mid-debate.
How I calculate Speaks:
Organization in speeches (Line by lines or clear signposting are beautiful)
Good, thought-provoking questions in cross
Speed and annunciation are balanced (don't talk so fast that you cannot get words out properly)
Being civil (this is debate, you don't need to be your opponent's friend. But please do not yell, scream, insult, threaten, etc. Also don't be racist, homophobic, sexist, etc.)
I don't exactly care if you swear (some judges are sticklers on that), but don't drop f-bombs every other second.
Oral Critiques/Disclosing:
I will usually give oral critiques if both teams want me to. If you ask me to give you feedback, feel free to ask a question, but please don't yell at me if you disagree. Thanks.
I'll disclose if both teams want me to, unless I need more time to re-look over my flow and organize thoughts or if the tournament does not allow disclosing. If any person does not want me to disclose, I will not, unless required by the tournament directors.
FOR NCFLS: Oral critiques and disclosing are not permitted at NCFLS.
About me:
I am currently a student at University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, majoring in Information Science and Technology.
I debated Policy Debate for Ronald Reagan High School for 4 years (2017-2021).
Current Assistant Director for Ronald Reagan Debate Team (2021-present)
Please put me on the e-mail chain<3 : nickdebate12@gmail.com
Paradigm:
I believe in tech over truth, making sure that you respond to all arguments on the table. Typically, I am more K sided in understanding than policy. I think policy args when done in large successions can get draining and uneducational. I LOVE to see a good k debate round with an interesting alt and clash coming from the aff team. Though, when it comes to technicality, I often vote on policy args (DAs, Ts, CPs) when they are not responded well enough.
Make sure you are respectful toward your partner, the debaters you are competing against and the judge. More importantly, please be respectful towards the topics and concepts you bring up/go against. The beauty of Policy Debate is the opportunity teams get to address current social issues and personal experiences. Please maintain a level of respect when addressing them. Disrespect can and WILL negatively affect your speaker points.