North Mecklenburg Viking Classic
2022 — Huntersville, NC/US
Public Forum Debate Paradigm List
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I did PF at Ardrey Kell for four years. I also did World Schools Debate at NSDAs in 2021 and 2022.
Speed: I can flow at most speeds, but if you go too fast, you risk me not being able to catch all of your arguments. If I can’t flow it, I can’t evaluate it (on that note: please don’t spread).
tech>truth*: I am generally tech over truth, but as the absurdity of your argument increases my threshold for response decreases. I love creative arguments pls don’t let this deter you from running them, but if you tell me something obviously wrong, I won’t require a carded response from your opponent.
Please signpost. Before you start a quick “their case, my case” or whatever order you are going in would be appreciated. However, just because you have done that, does not mean you don’t need to signpost in speech. Please tell me where you are.
Rebuttal:
- Second rebuttal needs to frontline all offense. You should frontline both defense and offense in 2nd but offense is the absolute minimum.
- Numbering responses is always appreciated, but if you start numbering stick with it.
- No preference on line-by-line versus top level responses. Do whatever you are comfortable with and think responds best.
Warranting/Evidence:
- Warranting>evidence. Well warranted analytic responses can beat carded arguments. I want to know the why behind your arguments. You should be able to explain every step in your link chain and how they fit together to generate an impact that matters.
- That being said, you need cards. If something is not a generally accepted fact by a relatively informed debate kid, then you need a card (just an fyi I have no topic knowledge for septober).
- Please be able to produce your cards in a timely manner if/when called. I understand sometimes docs are weird and the internet sucks, so you will be given grace on how long it takes, but pls don’t abuse the benefit of the doubt. If you cannot prove your card, the card will be dropped from the round.
- I will only call for cards if someone asks me too. Only ask me to call for a card if you think it changes the course of a debate. Evidence debates usually end in a wash and are not my favorite, but I will evaluate them if forced.
Weighing: Pls weigh as it makes my life as a judge so much easier.
- New weighing mechanisms cannot be introduced in final, but new analysis and new metaweighing can occur in final.
- Make sure your weighing is comparative.
CX: Nothing said in cross will be on my RFD unless you bring it up in a speech. CX does factor into speaks.
Extensions: Pls extend full arguments not just impacts. Collapsing and dropping can go a long way in making your extensions cleaner. Summary and final focus should mirror one another. Nothing not said in summary should be present in final (see weighing for exception).
Progressive PF:
I prefer traditional PF as opposed to progressive rounds.
- Trigger Warning theory is always valid.
- I have no experience with Ks or Tricks.
- Pre-fait weighing can be fun if done correctly. I will vote off of pre-fait, but you must prove real world impacts to win the ballot.
- I will not vote on disclosure or paraphrase.
- Pls no frivolous theory. It will just make me mad as I think it creates a more exclusive debate environment.
Etiquette: Be good people
- You should be respectful to your opponents throughout the round especially in cross. However, I understand that debate is an aggressive and combative endeavor. I will not penalize you for passionately pursuing your arguments, but talking over, intentionally flustering, and misconstruing your opponents arguments will drop your speaks.
You will be dropped for saying anything racist, homophobic, sexist, or any personal attack on your opponents.
Have fun and good luck :) Pls talk to me beforehand if you have any questions.
As a judge for PF I am looking for participants to work as a team and to be respectful of other teams. I appreciate teams that can use cross to their advantage. I expect you to back up arguments with evidence. I appreciate teams that address each of their opponents' contentions, extend their arguments and weigh.
Speed of speech is inconsequential as long as you are speaking clearly.
Debated PF for Mission San Jose for 4 years (and a bit of parli), coached for a summer, and occasionally volunteer to judge. I graduated from UC Berkeley with a business degree in 2021 and now work in finance in Charlotte.
I start evaluating the round through framework/observations, you should be able to tell me what impacts are the most important and why. Anything that’s in final focus should be in summary, extend both warrants and impacts. Don't just extend author names, explain what they say again if you want me to flow the argument through.
Please weigh otherwise I have to decide what I think is important and that sounds like a lot of work I don't want to do.
Let me know if you have any questions before the round starts. If you have a question about a rfd or want more feedback or just want to get my opinion on something feel free to email me, ndubey@berkeley.edu.
I'm a flay judge with experience in PF and LD.
I don't fully flow cross; if you want something to be flowed, extend in the next speech.
Make sure to extend in summary/final focus/final speech.
Please SIGNPOST any speech later than 1st rebuttal so I know where to flow.
Always weigh so I have a clear reason to vote for something. I'm not very experienced with metaweighing. I know some judges don't evaluate probability, but I will as long as you implicate your reasoning.
If you're going to use ACRONYMS, please establish them with me before the round.
I don't like spreading; I need to be able to understand what you're saying to put it on my flow.
I don't evaluate theory or K’s.
Greetings, debaters. I'm a parent in my second year of judging debate. It would be helpful if you would:
1. Please ask, "Ready, judge?" before you launch into each speech. (I will be keeping time, too.) Even better would be something like, "Ready, judge, for my four-minute speech (three-minute crossfire)?"
2. Sign post your arguments. "Moving to my second contention, my opponent says, but we contend..."
3. Speak a little slower. Don't spread.
4. Avoid running theory during your arguments.
FInally, please be a good sport and have fun.
Greetings, debaters.
I'm a parent who is new to judging debate. It would be helpful if you would:
1. Please ask, "Ready, judge?" before you start your speech into each speech.
2. Please watch your time.
3. Sign post your arguments. "Moving to my second contention, my opponent says, but we contend..."
4. Speak a little slower. Don't spread.
5. For PF, please clearly articulate your contentions, back them up with warrants and support with strong evidence.
Good luck and most importantly, have fun!
I am a lay judge with some experience in public forum and speech, and limited experience in Lincoln Douglas and Congress.
Please don’t spread or do anything that would make it hard for me to understand you.
Tell me why you are winning, tell me what’s important, don’t make it hard for me to figure that out. WEIGH.
If you have a speech document and are comfortable with sharing it, that would ensure that I do not miss anything you say.
My email is djacobs@mytruloan.com if you want to share anything.
hello
i did pf debate for 2 years (junior and senior) yr of high school around 2019/2020, so im fairly familiar with most stuff, but i have not debated for nearly 2.5 years at this point so please go easy on me lol.
i don't have much to say tbh, feel free to ask me in round for more info on certain stuff, but main things for me:
i vote on arguments and not how you present them, please properly extent your arguments with cards and impacts, so its easier for me to vote.
PLEASE PROPERLY WEIGH so i can know why to vote your arguments over your opponents. don't just say "we weigh _____" and not why to prefer that point over the opponents.
please also signpost and roadmap your points so it's easier for me to flow and understand your arguments. i've seen rounds turn out badly because the roadmap gets sloppy and im confused where you are in the argument.
don't be a jerk and try to have fun w it all :D
I'm a debate coach at Riverside HS in SC. I believe debate is an educational activity where the skills you learn should help you for the rest of your life. Delivery is important. Respect for your opponent is a must.
Public Forum:
I don't think K's have a place in PF. This isn't policy. I also think theory has devolved from it's original purpose, and in most cases, has become a tool for teams to try to get a cheap win. If you think there was a serious evidence violation, do an official evidence challenge (check the NSDA rules if you don't know what this is) or call it out and tell me to read it if you're nervous about hinging an entire round on this one violation. If your opponent is being rude or malicious, I'll intervene.
While I flow everything and understand the lingo, treat me as a lay judge. Please do not spread. Please weigh.
Weighing is just a comparative analysis, so be sure to engage your opponents arguments when you weigh. If your weighing is all about your case, it tells me nothing about how it compares to your opponent's (so you didn't actually weigh anything). Also include why we should favor your weighing mechanism versus your opponent's if they differ.
I'm not a fan of extending anything through ink. If it's important enough for you to try to win off of it, you should be bringing it up well before FF.
Please sign post during your speeches.
When extending evidence, please also include the warranting behind the evidence. I’m human and don’t always catch everything about your evidence on my flow the first time around.
Please be quick about sharing evidence during rounds. It shouldn't take you more than a couple minutes to pull a card and send it (should be almost immediate if its from case).
Also I think crossfire is the most interesting part of most debate rounds. I'm definitely listening and may vote off of it if your weighing isn't comparative.
If you want clarification on anything on (or not on) my paradigm please don't be afraid to ask before the round.
I have been a parent volunteer for four years. I have never competed in Speech and Debate myself. Please keep your delivery clear.
I don't like spreading. I prefer to hear well formed arguments. Speaking as fast as possible is not a substitute for having good arguments.
Please stick to the topic.
Please treat everyone with respect.
Carmen Kohn’s Paradigm
I have been judging speech and debate events since 2016. I am also currently the Director and Head Coach for Charlotte Catholic HS in NC.
Lincoln-Douglas and Public Forum:
I enjoy both the ethical component of the discussions in LD and the current topicality of most PF topics. I appreciate the informative nature of these debates, especially in the current political climate.
I am a classic flow judge for both events and am looking for good clash between opponents. In LD, I place more emphasis on contentions rather than value, however, that evidence must clearly link back to the VC. I am also more interested in the impacts. A dropped contention is not automatic grounds for a win. It depends on the relevance of the argument. When rebutting, don't just extend the author's card. I am not writing down all of the authors. Please remind me of the evidence that was presented. I prefer the well-thought out, well-paced arguments. While debates are won based on evidence presented, I do find a direct correlation between technical speaking abilities and evidence offered. I also make a note of how professionally debaters present themselves and behave towards myself and each other.
I would classify myself as a advanced traditional lay judge. I am not a progressive judge. Do not run theory shells or any other "progressive" argument with me. While I do appreciate the occasional non-traditional argument, especially towards the end of the topic time frame, all cases should be realistic and applicable in the current environment in which we find ourselves. Please debate the current resolution.
Absolutely No Spreading!!! I cannot follow it, especially with online tournaments. You will lose the round. This is probably my biggest pet peeve. I feel there is no educational value to that in a competitive environment. You run the risk that I will not have caught all of your arguments and may miss a main point in my flow. Please keep technical jargon to a minimum also. Throwing around debate jargon and just cards identified by author gets too confusing to follow. And if you ask a question during cross-ex, please let your opponent answer and finish their sentences. It’s unprofessional to cut someone off. Signposts and taglines are always appreciated. I generally do not disclose or give oral RFD. I want time to review my notes. Debates where opponents respect each other and are having fun, arguing solid contentions, are the best ones to watch.
Congress:
I've just started judging Congress. My "comments" are usually summaries of your speeches. Occasional commentary on the delivery and/or content. Please interact with previously given speeches (by Rep name also) and don't just rehash a "first speech". If you can bring a new point to the discussion 6 speeches in, that is awesome.
I will give points to POs. I appreciate what is involved in POing. During nomination speeches, it can be assumed that a PO will run a "fast and efficient" chamber. No need to state the obvious. However, if that actually doesn't take place, a lower rank will result.
Good luck to all!!
I am an experienced public forum debater from North Carolina and also debated on the national circuit several times.
Edit: If I am judging LD, just apply what I wrote here for PF for your LD round. I do not know the timings of speeches so please time yourself. I'd rather not focus on keeping time and would like to focus on flowing.
Things to look out/consider while debating.
- I can handle fast speaking but if it is so fast that I can't understand, I won't flow it. I would prefer speaking slower than faster
- NO SPREADING
- Anything that was said in final focus must be extended from summary otherwise I won't vote off of it.
- PLEASE GIVE ME VOTERS. I will only vote for you where you tell me to vote. Even if the argument that you want me to vote off of is absurd, I will sign the ballot for you if there is no response, conceded, or flat out won.
- Signpost where you are going, ESPECIALLY IN SUMMARY. If you are going to give me a big picture summary, let me know before you start what side of the flow the extensions are on. If you are giving me a down the flow summary, give me a roadmap on where you are starting and where you will go to.
- Evidence. When reading evidence in case, slow down while saying the author's name or publisher so I can correctly identify it when it is extended later in the round. Paraphrasing cards is ok but do not take it out of context. If a card is called and is deemed to be incorrect from what was said in round, tell me to call for the card and stress it. I will call for it if it is an important card in the round. Do not tell me to call for the card if it actually says what is said, I will drop you for wasting my time.
Please have your evidence pulled up in a timely manner when pulled up. I understand that it takes time to sort through many different files to find the right card, but if it takes way longer than it should, I will drop the card.
- WEIGH WEIGH WEIGH. If you do not tell me why your side is more important when both sides have offense extended, I will have to use my own cost-benefit analysis to determine which is the best outcome. Don't just tell me that the long term is more important than the short term, explain why. Even if you tell me that econ is more important than lives, I will buy it as long as you tell me why this is true.
- Lastly, WARRANTING. If you are not able to provide a reason to why a claim reaches its impact, I am most likely going to drop that argument. Just cause John Doe from Harvard says that something happens, it really doesn't matter to me. Explain the logic and paint a narrative of what is going to happen if I don't vote for your side.
- Frontlining in second rebuttal is not necessary but is very helpful for you as the 1st speaker will not have to frontline everything in summary. No new responses or arguments in final focus. Responses in summary can happen but only if the argument that is being responded to came in the speech just prior.
- Do not offend or personally attack anyone in the room at any point in the debate. This will most certainly make me not like you and lose speaks or potentially lose the round.
Yes I know this may seem a little bit scary but please do have fun in round as I believe that debate is an activity that is meant to be enjoyed. Even small jokes/exchanges in crossfire is enough to lighten up a heavy debate. I will give you a bump in speaks if you are seen as lighthearted and funny, but debate correctly as well.
PLEASE if you have any questions about my RFD come ask me if you see me in the hallways (even if you lost) as I will most likely give you some advice for your next round or tournament.
Hey guys, I did PF for about 3.5 years with decent success on the local and national circuit, so I know how the debate will go. Also, you can go any speed just don't speak to the point of spreading. Don't be nervous I don't expect you to be extremely serious at all times you can crack a joke before the debate begins or comment about my Mamamoo or Playboi Carti stickers on my laptop. Let's go over each part of the debate and what I value:
General Rules
*I will disclose at a tournament if and only if they allow it but always feel free to ask me about the rules
*There are a lot of germs out so fist bumps or air fives are greatly appreciated
*Please do not cap (lie) about info and create a situation where officials need to included in
* Please have your cards ready to be called if needed because I do not enjoy spending a minute for a team trying to find a card that they have probably been using for two tournaments before this situation
* If you want to wow me knowing the in's and out's of your information i.e sources and dates is Pog ( really good ), knowing the opponent's sources and calling them out is an absolute 200 IQ/5Head play and I will be in awe of the brain waves radiating from your cranium
* Even if the debate is sloppy still fist bump, shake hands, or acknowledge the work the everyone has put in to get to this point
Debate Rules
1. The constructive
Please speak decently loud because my hearing is the best, but do not yell at me. If you want some more closure you can ask me a good pitch before the debate. Also, it is okay if you stumble on words just please recover and do not panic because of a mistake we are all human.
2.
CrossFire/Grand Cross
Please be respectful, one of my biggest pet peeve during the debate would be when someone would filibuster and complain that their opponent would not let them respond or just generally speak over there opponents in a rude manner. With the previous statement in mind do not be passive during the debate because confidence is key and is a general component for me to vote for you (remember as a judge I'm a blank canvas and you are the artist). The order for cross should be question-answer-question-answer, but if the opposition does not have a question exploit that weakness and continue on. In grand cross please don't introduce new arguments or read new cards because they will not be weighed are a waste of time.
3. Rebuttal
PLEASE SIGN POST! Although im pretty leaniant with mistakes during the debate this one of skills that I value the most because if an argument is being fed towards me during rebuttal especially without structure I might miss it or not understand it fully which would be disadvantageous towards you. Also, I like off time roadmaps even if the direction of the rebuttal is predictable because they give me a break to ingest fully what is to come. Finally just because you overload me with a lot of reasons against your opponent's case does not mean you just completely eviscerated them, unless they fail to recognize them or they are quality arguments.
4. Summary
Since I did first speaker for all of my tournaments that I competed at except for about four, I have grown to realize how important the summary is and how hard it is. You guys have a little bit of a break with 3 minutes, because back in my day we only had 2 minutes ( I wanted to have an older voice for this part but this is on a laptop and I'm not reading out loud to you and I just graduated high school this year so I thought it was funny but to be honest it was not). I really need the 1st speakers to pop off and not int (INTentionally feed/ do bad) for the summary. The summary is where I will be weighing the majority of the debate on. For the summary I need the 1st speakers to please WEIGH and show me why you win and the other team loses. ALSO, I still need you to signpost through all speeches.
5. Final Focus
For the 2nd speaking team please do not say any new arguments that can not be responded to by the opposition. Flow over the voters to which should have been introduced in the summary and generally collapse on the debate with telling me why you won. To be honest, just take a deep breath and go crazy; and I believe you will be successful.
I am a parent judge with two school years experience as a lay judge.
-Please speak at a conversational pace.
-Speak clearly.
-I will flow all the round except for the cross examinations. So, the better organized your speech, the better I can flow.
-Please obey your time.
-Be respectful and professional at all times.
-I look for clear, organized and logical argumentation and valid, unbiased evidence.
Good luck and have fun.
I am a parent judge with little experience judging PF, LD or Speech events. I prefer that you don't talk too fast or spread- I need to be able to understand what you are saying in order to judge it's merits.
I will take a lot of notes and try to judge on the flow. For PF, please clearly articulate your contentions, back them up with warrants and support with strong evidence. I don't fully flow Crossfire or Cross-Ex, so anything important that you want noted, please extend in your next speech and make it clear why it's important to your case or detracts from you opponent's. Please don't run progressive debate unless something extreme has happened in the round; I will not know how to evaluate it.
By your final focus or your last speech, you should have made a convincing case why your impacts or value outweigh your opponent's. And in keeping with the rules of debate, do not bring up any new arguments in the second half of a round or they will be disregarded.
Good luck and have fun!
This is my second year judging. I appreciate a logical, good-spirited, and respectful debate. Clear speech helps me follow the argument - I will not flow what I cannot understand so please avoid spreading. I favor quality of the debate over quantity of points made. Have fun!!
UNC '25
I am tech.
I understand prog.
send speech docs and cards to robertmg@ad.unc.edu
no CW/TW (for arguments that need it) means u get 25 speaks max
:)
Hello,
I am from North Carolina and have competed on the Carolina West circuit for 3 years. Thus, I can flow almost anything that I can understand. I am fine with speed but if you are excessively fast than I will gesture to slow down (don't be startled, it typically means I actually am interested in what you are saying, I just am missing key points). Moreover, this means I can pick up on the jargon that you will use in round, but if I am really lost I will give you a very confused look. Below are things I want and don't want in a round.
UPDATE: I am a sophomore in college now, so I am just a bit rusty. Please note that I am not in my prime anymore :(
UPDATE 2: I honestly do not know anything... go easy
UPDATE 3 (Oct. 8 2022): IT HAS BEEN SO LONG PLEASE HELP.
Things that will get you speaks and wins:
1. Argumentation. I will vote on arguments NOT on presentation. Please, please, please extend your arguments properly, preferably with cards and impacts, it makes them easy to vote for.
2. Weighing/Framework. If you can tell me WHY I should vote for economic benefits over lives lost with a good reason, I am fine with signing the ballot that way. However, that doesn't mean you can just tell me in final that lives don't matter and expect an easy win because you lost the lives argument.
3. Signposting/Roadmaps. Please use these techniques in order to make it easier for me to flow your speeches and apply your arguments correctly. If I have to guess on where your turn belongs than I will probably get it wrong and you won't be happy.
4. Crossfire. This is not vital to the round and will not get you a win unless it is critical to the round. If you absolutely slay your opponent in cross, great! I love a bit of humor, banter, and even satire in cross. I think it makes the round more enjoyable, and therefore will give you a bump in speaks. If something really critical comes up in crossfire and you think that I should flow it, please address the idea in the following speech.
5. Evidence. This is obviously the most important part of Public Forum. A few key issues with evidence. One, please at least tell me the last name of the author and date of the card in case and in subsequent speeches. Also, if you are trying to indict a piece of evidence, expect me to call it if it is really important to the round or if that is your only response to their entire argument. Lastly, please give me the reasoning and warranting behind the card instead of just saying "we are right because Callan Hazeldine said so"
Things that will lose you the round and get bad speaks:
1. Being A Jerk. There is a fine line between standing your ground in cross and defending your time to speak and steamrolling your opponent. Just be careful (profanity, abusive, or harsh language). Also, any racist, xenophobic, sexist, or any discriminatory remarks will almost certainly lose you the round and possibly have consequences beyond that.
2. Summary/Final Discrepancy. If your summary goes for your C1 and the final goes for C2, I may throw a fit. I know that the summary is one of the most difficult speeches in the round, but it should match the weighing/impacts given in final. If these speeches don't give me basically the same narrative, or at least FF be a part of the summary narrative, I will have a hard time signing my ballot for you.
A couple more key pieces of information:
1. Please have your evidence. I understand that it can take a minute to try and find anything that they call for but if it lasts more than 3 minutes, I will begin to become skeptical. I probably will not interfere but I will definitely not enjoy my time being wasted.
2. Timing. I may time if the round really needs it but I much rather prefer that the opponents keep each other in check with time. For prep, please take care of that as I will be evaluating the flow during that time, not counting your seconds.
3. Have Fun! Remember, this event is supposed to be enjoyable for everyone (including you!). I would love to see your passion on the topic and I know how intense a debate round can get. However, please understand this community is a second family for some. While the topics and solutions we debate are super important and have real-life consequences, I do not think that rules out enjoying the round.
4. About the decision. I will try and give my RFD at the end of every round I judge because I prefer to have it still fresh in my mind while also giving you the opportunity to ask questions. So, if you feel like I missed something or want clarification, then please feel free to ask questions, bring up concerns, or anything you feel as if you want to talk to me about. Moreover, if you want more detailed feedback (specific speeches, case ideas, etc.) then go ahead and either meet with me later in the day or get my contact info. I love this event with all my heart and all I could ask for is to see some great debate. I want to help you all learn and get better so take advantage of that.
I'm a parent judge with about 2 years of judging experiences, mostly in PF and some in LD.
Never done Policy before so please don't spread. If I can not catch what your arguments are, I can't vote for them.
If may be helpful if you want to share your case doc with me: zhusufeng@hotmail.com.
Be confident, respectful and have fun.