CPFL National Championship
2023 — Online, US
PF Judges Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideLD, skip to the bottom ty.
I want to be about what you like to run. Debate works best when you run the arguments that you’re best at, not the ones you think I want to hear. That being said, I’m very open to most arguments. I’m not stringent about strict line-by-line, but if major arguments like turns are dropped then I’m not going to flow them. Be respectful, do you, and the debate will go fine.
Here is my orientation towards specific arguments:
Framework/ROB: I will judge the round based on the framework you provide but need the impacts of your framework explained to me fully. Make it clear why my ballot is important both within and beyond the context of the debate space. I tend to err on the side of education over competition but have voted for both so defend what you believe is more important in the current debate.
Non-traditional Affs: I’m very open to non-traditional affs, just have a clear articulation as to why the resolution or topic should not be engaged in. For the neg, give me reasons as to why this topic was chosen and what the harms are of not choosing to engage. Also, if you run an Identity Aff for an identity you don't identify with, and the other team reads a K on you for that, chances are I will vote the K.
High Theory K: General links aren’t persuasive to me at all, you need to tell me what specifically about the AFF links to Baudrillard, Zizek, D&G, Butler, Arant, etc. While explaining your concepts is great, you will also need to give impacts that go beyond the abstract.
Identity Ks: Love them, just make sure you have a clearly articulated alt that is competitive with the AFFS plan text. The least abstract it is, the better – this does not mean that the alt has to be material but it is important for me to fully understand how it functions in the debate space. If you have a performative aspect, it’s important that you continue to include it throughout the debate for me to evaluate it.
DA/CounterPlan: Explain the link, and make sure to do impact calc. I’m not the biggest fan of Politics DAs, and I really like when theory is read on them. Your CP needs to solve some part of the AFF in order for me to consider it. I will also evaluate theory arguments about counter-plans and their role in debate.
LD:
All of the above basically applies, but with more sympathy to time skew. In terms of basically anything Nebel related - like most policy judges/debaters I won't vote on it. Specifically:
Tricks/a prioris/paradoxes - Nope, and I will vote on most conditionality arguments.
Nebel T - With the weight of evidence in LD debate as opposed to other styles, I can't seriously consider in cards from a blog
Args like must spec status/must include round reports for every debate/new affs bad/ - Nope.
Experience: 2 years high school PF, 1 year high school LD, 1 year college IPDA
Go slow, clear signposting and good structure is essential. I need to be able to follow along
Quality of arguments is more important than speaking style and presentation, but speaking style is still important. It can be the difference in a very close round.
Make sure to have clash.
Include clear, concise, and well-defined voting issues. The final speeches of the debate round should provide closure like a confident punctuation mark.
Joshua Arp
Judy Butler: Hired Gun
Affiliations: Too numerous to list
Experience: High School: 29 years; College: 27 years
I will not attempt to characterize what the purpose or value of debate is in this missive; merely how I tend to evaluate the debates I get to judge. I think of myself as a teacher and the debaters as students and strive to treat them with the respect that relationship deserves. I thoroughly enjoy judging debates from almost any theoretical perspective. I also strive to support new ideas, sources of evidence, academic fields and literature entering debate that have traditionally been undervalued.
I like judging debates where the debaters directly address each other's arguments from the jump as opposed to waiting until rebuttals to compare arguments.
I like judging debates where the arguments/positions evolve in relation to one another as opposed to simply in vacuums - I will totally listen to debates about conditionality and don't have attitude about multiple advocacies.
I like judging debates when the debaters show respect for each other, including their partners - contempt for an argument or position is different than contempt for a person.
I like judging theory debates that have depth as opposed to breadth - five or seven words are really not arguments, nor are they flowable. I ten to shy away from voting on theory arguments that require that I "punish" debaters. I prefer theory arguments that are grounded in the effect on the debate process and the value of including or excluding certain argumentative perspectives and practices.
I like judging debaters that focus on comparison and argument evolution rather than repetition and tend to reward both content and style when apportioning speaker points. Specifically, winning your argument is different than answering theirs: saying why you are right AND why they are wrong is the minimum necessary to answer/extend an argument and put yourself in a position to win that argument in the last rebuttals. Ideally, this level of extension could begin in the 1NC and could continue throughout the debate by all the following speeches.
I promise to be riveted to your speeches, your cross-exes, and my flow. I flow what the evidence says, not just your label. I hope that softens the blow when I say that I don't want to be on the email chain - the debate I'm judging is the one I heard and flowed, not the one I read. If I need/want to see something I will ask - but I need you to be clear in the first place. If you want to understand and comprehend the quality extensions I am asking for in real time, clarity when you originally read your evidence is critical.
PS: Your prep time stops running when you have sent the speech - not before
Happy Debating!
2017-2019 LAMDL/ Bravo
2019- Present CSU Fullerton
Please add me to the email chain, normadelgado1441@gmail.com
General thoughts
-Disclose as soon as possible :)
- Don't be rude. Don't make the round deliberately confusing or inaccessible. Take time to articulate and explain your best arguments. If I can't make sense of the debate because of messy/ incomplete arguments, that's on you.
-Speed is fine but be loud AND clear. If I can’t understand you, I won’t flow your arguments. Don’t let speed trade-off with the quality of your argumentation. Above all, be persuasive.
-Sending evidence isn't prep, but don't take too long or I’ll resume the timer. (I’ll let you know before I do so).
Things to keep in mind
-Avoid using acronyms or topic-specific terminology without elaborating first.
-The quality of your arguments is more important than quantity of arguments. If your strategy relies on shallow, dropped arguments, I’ll be mildly annoyed.
-Extend your arguments, not authors. I will flow authors sometimes, but if you are referencing a specific card by name, I probably don’t remember what they said. Unless this specific author is being referenced a lot, you’re better off briefly reminding me than relying on me to guess what card you’re talking about.
-I don’t vote for dropped arguments because they’re dropped. I vote on dropped arguments when you make the effort to explain why the concession matters.
- I don’t really care what you read as long as you have good reasoning for reading it. (ie, you’re not spewing nonsense, your logic makes sense, and you’re not crossing ethical boundaries).
Specific stuff
[AFFs] Win the likelihood of solvency + framing. You don't have to convince me you solve the entirety of your impact, but explain why the aff matters, how the aff is necessary to resolve an issue, and what impacts I should prioritize.
[Ks/K-affs] I like listening to kritiks. Not because I’ll instantly understand what you’re talking about, but I do like hearing things that are out of the box.
k on the neg: I love seeing teams go 1-off kritiks and go heavy on the substance for the link and framing arguments. I love seeing offense on case. Please impact your links and generate offense throughout the debate.
k on the aff: I like strategic k affs that make creative solvency arguments. Give me reasons to prefer your framing to evaluate your aff's impacts and solvency mechanism. The 2ar needs to be precise on why voting aff is good and overcomes any of the neg's offense.
[FW] Choose the right framework for the right aff. I am more persuaded by education & skills-based impacts. Justify the model of debate your interpretation advocates for and resolve major points of contestation. I really appreciate when teams introduce and go for the TVA. Talk about the external impacts of the model of debate you propose (impacts that happen outside of round).
[T/Theory] I have a higher threshold for voting on minor T/Theory violations when impacts are not contextualized. I could be persuaded to vote on a rebuttal FULLY committed to T/theory.
I am more persuaded by education and skills-based impacts as opposed to claims to procedural fairness. It’s not that I will never vote for procedural fairness, but I want you to contextualize what procedural fairness in debate would look like and why that’s a preferable world.
[CPs] CPs are cool as long as you have good mutual exclusivity evidence; otherwise, I am likely to be persuaded by a perm + net benefit arg. PICS are also cool if you have good answers to theory.
[DAs] I really like DAs. Opt for specific links. Do evidence comparison for me. Weigh your impacts and challenge the internal link story. Give your framing a net benefit.
I am more persuaded by impacts with good internal link evidence vs a long stretch big stick impact. Numbers are particularly persuasive here. Make me skeptical of your opponent’s impacts.
Yes, email chain. debateoprf@gmail.com
ME:
Debater--The University of Michigan '91-'95
Head Coach--Oak Park and River Forest HS '15-'20
Assistant Coach--New Trier Township High School '20-
POLICY DEBATE:
Top Level
--Old School Policy.
--Like the K on the Neg. Harder sell on the Aff.
--Quality of Evidence Counts. Massive disparities warrant intervention on my part. You can insert rehighlightings. There should not be a time punishment for the tean NOT reading weak evidence.
--Not great with theory debates.
--I value Research and Strategic Thinking (both in round and prep) as paramount when evaluating procedural impacts.
--Utter disdain for trolly Theory args, Death Good, Wipeout and Spark. Respect the game, win classy.
Advantage vs Disadvantage
More often than not, I tend to gravitate towards the team that wins probability. The more coherent and plausible the internal link chain is, the better.
Zero risk is a thing.
I can and will vote against an argument if cards are poor exclusive of counter evidence being read.
Not a big fan of Pre-Fiat DA's: Spending, Must Pass Legislation, Riders, etc. I will err Aff on theory unless the Neg has some really good evidence as to why not.
I love nuanced defense and case turns. Conversely, I love link and impact turns. Please run lots of them.
Counterplans
Conditionality—
I am largely okay with a fair amount of condo. i.e. 4-5 not a big deal for me. I will become sympathetic to Aff Theory ONLY if the Neg starts kicking straight turned arguments. On the other hand, if you go for Condo Bad and can't answer Strat Skew Inevitable, Idea Testing Good and Hard Debate is Good Debate then don't go for Condo Bad. I have voted Aff on Conditionality Theory, but rarely.
2023-2024 EDIT:
**That said, the Inequality Topic has made me add an addendum to my aforementioned grievance about being on my lawn: running blatantly contradictory arguments about Capitalism, Unions, Growth, etc. are egregious performance contradictions that I will no longer ignore under the auspices of conditionality. Its not that I am changing my tune on condo per se, its that this promotes bad neg strats that are usually a result of high school students not thinking about things they should be before reading the 1NC. Its pretty easy to win in-round abuse when a Neg is defending Unions Good and Bad at the same time. I encourage you to try.
Competition—
1. I have grown weary of vague plan writing. To that end, I tend think that the Neg need only win that the CP is functionally competitive. The Plan is about advocacy and cannot be a moving target.
2. Perm do the CP? Intrinsic Perms? I am flexible to Neg if they have a solvency advocate or the Aff is new. Otherwise, I lean Aff.
Other Stuff—
PIC’s and Agent CP’s are part of our game. I err Neg on theory. Ditto 50 State Fiat.
No object Fiat, please. Or International Fiat on a Domestic Topic.
Otherwise, International Fiat is a gray area for me. The Neg needs a good Interp that excludes abusive versions. Its winnable.
Solvency advocates and New Affs make me lean Neg on theory.
I will judge kick automatically unless given a decent reason why not in the 1AR.
K-Affs
If you lean on K Affs, just do yourself a favor and put me low or strike me. I am not unsympathetic to your argument per se, I just vote on Framework 60-70% of the time and it rarely has anything to do with your Aff.
That said, if you can effectively impact turn Framework, beat back a TVA and Switch Side Debate, you can get my ballot.
Topic relevance is important.
If your goal is to make blanket statements about why certain people are good or bad or should be excluded from valuable discussions then I am not your judge. We are all flawed.
I do not like “debate is bad” arguments. I don't think that being a "small school" is a reason why I should vote for you.
Kritiks vs Policy Affs
Truth be told, I vote Neg on Kritiks vs Policy Affs A LOT.
I am prone to voting Aff on Perms, so be advised College Debaters. I have no take on "philosophical competition" but it does seem like a thing.
I am not up on the Lit AT ALL, so the polysyllabic word stews you so love to concoct are going to make my ears bleed.
I like reading cards after the debate and find myself understanding nuance better when I can. If you don’t then you leave me with only the bad handwriting on my flow to decipher what you said an hour later and that’s not good for anybody.
When I usually vote Neg its because the Aff has not done a sufficient job in engaging with core elements of the K, such as Ontology, Root Cause Claims, etc.
I am not a great evaluator of Framework debates and will usually err for the team that accesses Education Impacts the best.
Topicality
Because it theoretically serves an external function that affects other rounds, I do give the Aff a fair amount of leeway when the arguments start to wander into a gray area. The requirement for Offense on the part of the Affirmative is something on which I place little value. Put another way, the Aff need only prove that they are within the predictable confines of research and present a plan that offers enough ground on which to run generic arguments. The Negative must prove that the Affirmative skews research burdens to a point in which the topic is unlimited to a point beyond 20-30 possible cases and/or renders the heart of the topic moot.
Plan Text in a Vacuum is a silly defense. In very few instances have I found it defensible. If you choose to defend it, you had better be ready to defend the solvency implications.
Limits and Fairness are not in and of themselves an impact. Take it to the next level.
Why I vote Aff a lot:
--Bad/Incoherent link mechanics on DA’s
--Perm do the CP
--CP Solvency Deficits
--Framework/Scholarship is defensible
--T can be won defensively
Why I vote Neg a lot:
--Condo Bad is silly
--Weakness of aff internal links/solvency
--Offense that turns the case
--Sufficiency Framing
--You actually had a strategy
PUBLIC FORUM SUPPLEMENT:
I judge about 1 PF Round for every 50 Policy Rounds so bear with me here.
I have NOT judged the PF national circuit pretty much ever. The good news is that I am not biased against or unwilling to vote on any particular style. Chances are I have heard some version of your meta level of argumentation and know how it interacts with the round. The bad news is if you want to complain about a style of debate in which you are unfamiliar, you had better convince me why with, you know, impacts and stuff. Do not try and cite an unspoken rule about debate in your part of the country.
Because of my background in Policy, I tend to look at things from a cost benefit perspective. Even though the Pro is not advocating a Plan and the Con is not reading Disadvantages, to me the round comes down to whether the Pro has a greater possible benefit than the potential implications it might cause. Both sides should frame the round in terms impact calculus and or feasibility. Impacts need to be tangible.
Evidence quality is very important.
I will vote on what is on the flow (yes, I flow) and keep my personal opinions of arguments in check as much as possible. I may mock you for it, but I won’t vote against you for it. No paraphrasing. Quote the author, date and the exact words. Quals are even better but you don’t have to read them unless pressed. Have the website handy. Research is critical.
Speed? Meh. You cannot possibly go fast enough for me to not be able to follow you. However, that does not mean I want to hear you go fast. You can be quick and very persuasive. You don't need to spread.
Defense is nice but is not enough. You must create offense in order to win. There is no “presumption” on the Con.
While I am not a fan of formal “Kritik” arguments in PF, I do think that Philosophical Debates have a place. Using your Framework as a reason to defend your scholarship is a wise move. Racism and Sexism will not be tolerated. You can attack your opponents scholarship.
I reward debaters who think outside the box.
I do not reward debaters who cry foul when hearing an argument that falls outside traditional parameters of PF Debate. Again, I am not a fan of the Kritik, but if its abusive, tell me why instead of just saying “not fair.”
Statistics are nice, to a point. But I feel that judges/debaters overvalue them. Often the best impacts involve higher values that cannot be quantified. A good example would be something like Structural Violence.
While Truth outweighs, technical concessions on key arguments can and will be evaluated. Dropping offense means the argument gets 100% weight.
The goal of the Con is to disprove the value of the Resolution. If the Pro cannot defend the whole resolution (agent, totality, etc.) then the Con gets some leeway.
I care about substance and not style. It never fails that I give 1-2 low point wins at a tournament. Just because your tie is nice and you sound pretty, doesn’t mean you win. I vote on argument quality and technical debating. The rest is for lay judging.
Relax. Have fun.
Eric Lanning
I've been involved in policy debate for 15+ years as a debater and coach on the national circuit, including at the highest levels at the Tournament of Champions and National Debate Tournament.
I do my best to evaluate arguments based off what's said in the debate, but like anyone else I bring some preconceived notions about the activity and world that create "default" positions. I'll do my best to detail these below. I am very expressive and communicative and often provide "instant" feedback in the form of non-verbal expressions.
In general you should feel free to make whatever arguments you'd like! Debate is for the debaters and I will do my best to adapt to you.
I think the best debates are between two well researched opponents, and that predictable limits on the topic are important for in depth debate. I don't think that means the affirmative must necessarily defend "implementation by the federal government". I often find framework debates stale and difficult to resolve.
I am often quite skeptical of negative strategies that focus on multiple conditional counterplans or process counterplans that are not textually and functionally competitive . I wish more affirmatives would object to the proliferation of 2-3 conditional advocacies and strongly believe that "rejecting the team, not the argument" is the appropriate remedy.
Impact framing is essential for all arguments, regardless of content/form. I almost always vote for the team who better frames "what is important" and explains how it interacts with other arguments. The magic words are "even if..." and "they say ... but". Winning 2NRs and 2ARs use these phrases to 'frame' the big picture of the debate.
While I will often ask to see a card document - I tend to default to the explanation/spin of debaters in the round. IE its very important for you to explain and compare evidence!
Toni Nielson
Co-Director of Debate, Fullerton College (2017 - forever I suspect)
Executive Director - Bay Area Urban Debate League (2013-2017)
Co-Director of Debate at CSU, Fullerton for 7 years (2005-2012)
Debated in College for 5 years
Debated in High School for 3 years
Rounds on the Topic: less than 5
Email Chain: commftownnielson@gmail.com
I just want to see you do what you are good at. I like any debater who convinces me the know what they are talking about.
Here’s what I think helps make a debater successful –
1. Details: evidence and analytics, aff and neg – the threshold for being as specific as humanly possible about your arg and opponent's arg remains the same; details demonstrate knowledge
2. Direct organized refutation: Answer the other team and don’t make me guess about it – I hate guessing because it feels like intervention. I'm trying to let the debaters have the debate.
3. Debating at a reasonable pace: I ain’t the quickest flow in the west, even when I was at my best which was a while ago. I intend on voting for arguments which draw considerable debates and not on voting for arguments that were a 15 seconds of a speech. If one team concedes an argument, it still has to be an important and relevant argument to be a round winner.
4. Framing: tell me how you want me to see the round and why I shouldn’t see it your opponents way
5. Comparison: you aren’t debating in a vacuum – see your weakness & strengths in the debate and compare those to your opponent. I love when debaters know what they are losing and deal with it in a sophisticated way.
Some style notes - I like to hear the internals of evidence so either slow down a little or be clear. I flow CX, but I do this for my own edification so if you want an arg you still have to make it in a speech. I often don't get the authors name the first time you read the ev. I figure if the card is an important extension you will say the name again (in the block or rebuttals) so I know what ev you are talking about. I rarely read a bunch of cards at the end of the debate.
Now you are asking,
Can I read an aff without a plan? I lean rather in the direction of a topical plan, instrumentally implemented these days. This is a big change in my previous thoughts and the result of years of working with young, beginning debate. I appreciate policy discussion and believe the ground it provides is a preferable locus for debate. So I am somewhat prone to vote neg on framework must implement a plan.
Can I go for politics/CP or is this a K judge? Yes to both; I don't care for this distinction ideologically anymore. As far as literature, I lean slightly more in the K direction. My history of politics and CP debate are more basic than my history of K debate.
Theory - lean negative in most instances. Topicality - lean affirmative (if they have a plan) in most instances. I lean neg on K framework which strikes me as fair negative ground of a topical plan of action.
Truth v Tech - lean in the direction of tech. Debate, the skill, requires refuting arguments. So my lean in the direction of the tech is not a declaration to abandon reality. I will and do vote on unanswered arguments, particularly ones that are at the core of the debate. Gigantic caveat, I will struggle to vote on an argument just because it is dropped. The concession must be relevant and compelling to the debate. I will also be hesitant to vote on arguments that fly in the face of reality.
Here's what I like: I like what you know things about. And if you don't know anything, but get through rounds cause you say a bunch and then the other team drops stuff - then I don't think you have a great strategy. Upside for you, I truly believe you do know something after working and prepping the debate on the topic. Do us both a favor: If what you know applies in this round, then debate that.
Good luck!.
7+ years of speech and debate experience: 3 years as a student competitor and 4 years as an adjudicator. Primary expertise is in Parli, PF, and limited prep IEs. More background info below.
Contact emails: lilton1002@unm.edu or synchronizedspectacle11295@onmail.com (you can choose either)
Judging Philosophies:
• Organization and structure are essential. I flow what I hear. If you are not clearly outlining where you are or where you are going, I will more than likely lose some of the substance of your case. Roadmap and signpost in harmony.
• I value clash. Even if you have to go out on a limb, I would rather see you play a strong offense than a strong defense. To be sure, both elements are important and I expect to see you use both of them, but illustrating how your opponent's arguments are invalid packs a captivatingly effective punch.
• I weight anecdotal evidence equally with empirical evidence, if not more so. Anyone can find and read an NPR article. Not everyone can synthesize information from that and analytically connect that with knowledge from previous experience in a constructive, logical manner.
•Include clear, concise, and well-defined voting issues.The final speeches of the debate round should provide closure like a confident punctuation mark. You have presented your case, you have defended it, and now it is time to justify it against your opposition. Never underestimate how a strong conclusion can influence the fate of the round.
•I am skeptical of topicality/technical debate.The best debates for me, both as a competitor and an adjudicator, are those that are grounded entirely upon the exchange and challenge of ideas. I will listen to, and potentially accept, whatever you have to offer, but I feel that debate is less enjoyable for everyone when we get bogged down by jargon and game-playing mentalities instead of keeping the discourse concentrated on educational substantiveness.
•Don't be afraid to be subversive.I am very much appreciative of unorthodox, out-of-left-field argumentative approaches if/when they are executed intelligently. If you want to argue something like "the end of the world is net beneficial," I would be glad to hear you out!
•For Parli debaters specifically, please define all relevant terms - especially your House. I do not like when debates are over before they ever really began. It is underappreciated how critical it is to provide context for why this debate is taking place and who this debate is oriented towards. If the affirmative side leaves this information ambiguous, the opposition almost wins by default because they would have control over the framework of the debate round if they take the initiative.
•Presentational charisma is a plus.This is not a major priority for me and, it is not something I will really judge on outside of an in-person context, but it is nice to see certain elements in your delivery. These elements are mainly subtle cues like strategically-placed passionate vocal climaxes, hand gestures, and other speech comm niche potpourri.
•Be civil, be kind, be inclusive.We are all here to build each other up, not tear one another down.
Backround Info [Expanded]:
My forensics experience dates back to 2016. I competed with Owensboro Community and Technical College through my graduation in 2018. During the 2017 - 2018 academic year, I received the Harlan Hamm Award for Outstanding Male Competitor at the Kentucky Forensics Association's annual state tournament. From 2019 - 2020, I competed with Missouri Valley College. Since then, I have served as an assistant coach with their debate and forensics team and have adjudicated several virtual format tournaments. The crown centerpiece of my experience to date has been judging at 2022 Pi Kappa Delta Nationals.
*This paradigm is subject to revision at any time. I may add or remove philosophies at my discretion as my adjudication experience continues to evolve.
High School and College experience was mostly in Speech. Judging experience in Speech and Mock Trial/Moot Court. Relatively new CPFL debate, currently in my second year.
Public Forum Paradigm:
Speed of Delivery: The goal for the speaker should be to persuade the audience; this can't be done if the audience can't understand what is being said. If you have a very rapid delivery, it is probably best to provide a copy of the speech so everyone can follow along.
Timing: I don't like interrupting speakers, and I don't like being the police officer. The judge's job is to follow the arguments and provide good feedback. This is complicated when the judge must also enforce the rules. Speakers are aware of the time constraints and should hold themselves accountable. If you go a little over time, I will take your attempt to seek unfair advantage into my judging. If I have to stop you, that is a very bad sign.
Pacing: My preference is that transitions between speakers or rounds are brisk. If it becomes apparent that a side is attempting to slow transitions to gain an advantage, the offending team should anticipate that I will evaluate them accordingly.
Evidence: Evidence is key, and should be cited well enough to make it easy to find in your packet. Expertise matters, so when choosing between pieces of evidence to support claims I prefer the ones that come from experienced professionals over opinions and editorials. Please observe the CPFL Policies and Procedures Evidence Norms and Evidence Exchange Expectations (available here: https://www.collegepublicforum.org/procedures).
Argument + Style: Quality of argument and logical progression are more important than style. Style is a tiebreaker at best. That said, style often helps with the communication of an argument.
Flowing: Effect debate means engaging the arguments of the opponents and demonstrating which is stronger. I will give as much weight or more weight to effect refutation as I will to presentation. For this reason, flow is important.
Other notes: I give points for presenting arguments the other side has a difficult time refuting. If you wait until summary or focus to present an argument, the other side can't fail to refute it. Don't expect the argument to score. That said, don't feel you must chase every argument. I tend to overweigh impact. Several insignificant arguments, even if uncontested, are less important than a well-reasoned, high-magnitude argument..