MSDL Online Speech Debate and Congress Spring Fling
2021 — NSDA Campus, MA/US
PF Judge - Varsity Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideHi my name is Gideon Argov. I am a lay judge, but have experience judging and conducting public speaking in other contexts. Feel free to proceed at your preferred pace, but make sure you speak in complete sentences and are understandable/intelligible, and most importantly that you treat other debaters with respect. Good luck!
I am a parent judge. For the past few tournaments that I attended, I immensely enjoyed the experience, particularly for the well prepared cases, arguments with well supported evidences from solid research. Students with the patience of letting the others finish their points impress me the most. A lot times, it is not just about what you argue, but equally important is how you argue. Because of the age and the passion, students sometimes spread, which in my opinion shows that you started to lose focus. Listening sometimes is more important, which is the basis of 2 way communication as supposed to just stressing your point of view.
Nonetheless, debating skills are highly regarded and critical in schools and work places. The tournaments provided an excellent forum for you to develop those skills. I wish that I had that when I was attending high school in China.
Prefers to hear all sides and great if speaks clearly and thanks you and good luck!
EMAIL: jcohen1964@gmail.com
I judge Public Forum Debate 95% of the time. I occasionally judge LD and even more occasionally, Policy.
A few items to share with you:
(1) I can flow *somewhat* faster than conversational speed. As you speed up, my comprehension declines.
(2) I may not be familiar with the topic's arguments. Shorthand references could leave me in the dust. For example, "On the economy, I have three responses..." could confuse me. It's better to say, "Where my opponents argue that right to work kills incomes and sinks the economy, I have three responses...". I realize it's not as efficient, but it will help keep me on the same page you are on.
(3) I miss most evidence tags. So, "Pull through Smith in 17..." probably won't mean much to me. Reminding me of what the evidence demonstrated works better (e.g. "Pull through the Smith study showing that unions hurt productivity").
(4) In the interest of keeping the round moving along, please be selective about asking for your opponent's evidence. If you ask for lots of evidence and then I hear little about it in subsequent speeches, it's a not a great use of time. If you believe your opponent has misconstrued many pieces of evidence, focus on the evidence that is most crucial to their case (you win by undermining their overall position, not by showing they made lots of mistakes).
(5) I put a premium on credible links. Big impacts don't make up for links that are not credible.
(6) I am skeptical of "rules" you might impose on your opponent (in contrast to rules imposed by the tournament in writing) - e.g., paraphrasing is never allowed and is grounds for losing the round. On the other hand, it's fine and even desirable to point out that your opponent has not presented enough of a specific piece of evidence for its fair evaluation, and then to explain why that loss of credibility undermines your opponent's position. That sort of point may be particularly relevant if the evidence is technical in nature (e.g., your opponent paraphrases the findings of a statistical study and those findings may be more nuanced than their paraphrasing suggests).
(7) I am skeptical of arguments suggesting that debate is an invalid activity, or the like, and hence that one side or the other should automatically win. If you have an argument that links into your opponent's specific position, please articulate that point. I hope to hear about the resolution we have been invited to debate.
I am a middle school debate coach, and I participated in PF debate in high school. I am familiar with basic Public Forum conventions, terminology, etc. I request that debaters speak at an even and measured pace.
- Keep Calm.
- Speak Loud And Clear.
- Maintain Proper Body Language.
- Keep The Topic On Track.
- Respect your Opponents
I am a lay judge with limited knowledge of the technical rules of debate. I will work hard to give you a fair judging experience. In the number of years that I have judged, I have always valued truth over tech. I favor thorough research and clear arguments. Help me and yourself by: speaking clearly and optimizing for clarity over speed; providing signposts and numbering of arguments; avoiding jargon; and, ensuring your final focus includes all arguments you want to be credited for. Always be courteous to your fellow competitors.
Quality of evidence is important for me. On occasion, I may call for a card. If requested, provide me with the original source highlighting the section you used.
I am a parent judge who values common sense, clear logic, and coherence.
1. Arguments shall be clear and well-articulated, even if they do not cover every aspect.
2. If your evidence contradicts your opponent's, convince me with logic. More recent evidence may not be better.
3. As for mechanics, I am pretty flexible and should be comfortable with speed as long as you are clear. (However - I'm definitely not used to a policy level of speed so send me a speech doc if you do so). I'm open to theory, as long as it is not frivolous. I default to reasonability.
4. Have evidence ready, shouldn't take longer than 2 mins to find it or send it out. Also, I will take it from your prep if you're prepping when your opponent is getting a card.
5. Anything you want me to vote on must be extended in every speech, and collapse on voters in at least FF, if not summary.
6. Be respectful and let your opponents answer the questions you asked during the crossfire.
my email: klil.loeb@gmail.com
I did debate all four years of high school for Lexington. I debated LD for 3 years and PF for 1, so I'm pretty familiar with any type of argument. That being said, I do have some preferences that'll be helpful for me and you in terms of evaluating a round.
SCROLL DOWN FOR LD PARADIGM
PF Paradigm:
- Weigh. Clash is SO important and is too often avoided. All your arguments should be connected and should flow in a way that I can directly compare one to another. If both teams are talking about separate topics that don't interact, that's a pretty unsuccessful round, and I won't know where to vote.
- Extend. If something is dropped in any speech, I won't evaluate it, even if it's brought up again later. Make sure anything you want to factor into the decision is mentioned in every speech, and is especially emphasized in final focus. If its not brought all the way into your last speech, I'll consider it conceded, and won't vote on it.
- Sign post. If I don't know what you're talking about, I won't factor it into my decision.
- Be polite to your opponents. If you're rude, definitely expect me to lower speaks. It doesn't help you in any way to ruin what should otherwise be a good round with a bad attitude. Have fun and be nice and you'll have no problems.
- Most importantly - and what I'll be paying most attention to - use your last two speeches (especially final focus) to CLEARLY tell me why you should win the round over your opponent. The clearer you are, the easier it will be for me to make my decision, and the happier you'll be with the outcome. I vote off both offense and defense so make sure to maximize your voters.
Some little things:
- I'm fine w speed
- Time your own speeches and prep
- I don't flow/vote off cross. Anything you want me to remember should be brought up during speeches
- I love unconventional arguments
- DON'T have a loud conversation while I'm filling out my ballot omg i cannot express how much this irritates me
- Also feel free to make the round fun in any way - whatever that means to you, I love when people make me laugh (when its appropriate)
The debate is about you so have fun! I'm chill with anything as long as you do everything listed above:)
Feel free to ask any other questions before the round!
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LD Paradigm:
I’d prefer if you didn’t read Israel-Palestine specific colonialism / genocide in front of me.
- do what you want for the most part i don't care if you just tell me why i should vote for you
- Tech > Truth
- I love plans/counterplans/disads etc.
- I like K's. I ran K's.
- I'm not super into phil but I'll vote on it if it's explained well. Make sure you actually understand what you're saying otherwise how am I supposed to figure it out from you.
- I like theory
- WEIGH AND WARRANT. If there's no clash, I won't know where to vote. The easier your arguments are to understand, the easier it is for me to vote
- FOR ONLINE DEBATES: slow down! It's almost impossible to understand when either my or your computer's slow. I'm fine with speed otherwise though if you're CLEAR!! If i can't understand you though, I'll dock your speaks.
Good luck:)
I am Deepak and you can consider me as a typical lay judge. I would like you to
*Speak clearly, preferably at conversational speed
*Be respectful
*Have fun
Good luck and Enjoy
Please add me to the email chain- emilyqiu16@gmail.com
Previous debate history:
I was on the Lexington policy debate team for 4 years and graduated in 2020. I know pretty much nothing about the current topic and am used to judging novice so... do with that what you will.
TL;DR
Tech>truth.
Please be nice to each other.
I don't like or understand the k. Unless it's cap. I like judging policy rounds.
Everything below the LD update applies mostly to novices, but feel free to give it a read if you're varsity too.
PF Update
I have judged pf at a couple tournaments now. I don't know anything about the current topic so explain everything clearly. Speak well and make arguments. <3
LD Update
I am a policy debater. That means I am tech over truth and know how to flow, but do know that I have not done or judged LD before and I am 100% serious about the following things:
I'm a 1 for larp. Please note: I will tell you now that if you do not read a topical larp/lay case I will be confused. As for nontopical affs, please regard my thoughts from the policy section.
4 for phil (yes, even kant)
6 for friv theory, tricks, rvis, nibs, and any other underdeveloped cheesy arguments
If you are a circuit debater who is debating a lay debater, be nice or risk a 26.
I also know nothing about the current topic so please explain everything well.
Speaks
I'll probably give you all decent speaks unless you were extremely rude/act like you don't care about the round that is going on.
Things that will raise your speaks:
1. Having a road map and signposting during your speech
2. Looking at me during crossex
3. Being a partnership that reminds me of Lex HQ (aka partner goals)
Things that will DECK your speaks:
1. Acting like you're better than your partner
2. Reading the same blocks in every speech and not engaging the other team
3. Not flowing
4. Being ableist/sexist/homophobic/racist - unacceptable
T
I like a good topicality debate. Make sure you impact out T on both sides and go in depth with it. A blippy "it's too hard to be neg" argument or "aff is topical enough" will not suffice. Make sure the aff actually violates the T violation you choose though! Aff- if you don't violate, don't spend too much time on it! I'm willing to vote on wild T violations if you give me a good reason to.
DA
Love them- make sure to do impact calc and explain the internal link chain clearly. Try to do specific link analysis too- another thing that will raise your speaks. Aff should try to attack the internal link chains, don't just read impact defense.
CP
Like them- with generic CPs, try to have a solvency advocate specific to the aff. Advantage CPs are cool too- make sure you explain them well. Cheaty CPs are fun, but be prepared for theory because I'll give a lower threshold for the aff on theory if I think the CP is really cheaty.
K
They're fine- make sure you explain the thesis of the K well, how the aff makes what you're kritiking worse, and what the world of the alt looks like. Your links should be to the aff and not the squo. Try to find lines in the aff's evidence that link to your K and point them out! Alts- I tend to prefer alts that take action rather than "say no" or "reject the 1AC", but I will still vote on them. Framework- make sure you interact with the other team's framework (if they read one), don't just read the same block in every speech.
Case
Case debate!!!! Do it!! Aff- Explain your aff and how you solve! Don't forget about your aff- it is your CHILD! If you don't know what to do- weigh your aff against everything! I will vote neg on presumption, but only if the neg makes that argument.
K Affs
Defend something. I don't mind listening to kaffs, but you need to explain what you do to actually solve for your impacts. I usually read policy affs and am more policy leaning, but I'm down for a good k debate and will vote on one if it's debated well. Be confident and have nuanced answers to framework and cap!
Framework
Debate is a game. Framework has a special place in my heart <3. Fairness is an impact. BUT that being said, you have to impact it out- don't disgrace framework PLEASE. I'm more than willing to vote on framework, but only if it's run well. Make sure you attack the case too.
Theory
Condo- 4+ conditional advocacies is probably abusive, but if you can convince me that it's justified, then it's fine. Aff should always try to have condo in the 2AC as a fallback if there's 2+ condo.
Other theory- I'm probably not going to vote on it, unless something seems extremely abusive or is dropped.
Pro-tips
1. If you drop something, pretend/trick me into thinking you didn't.
2. Don't get scared of other teams, act like you can win until after the 2AR- don't give up!
3. Bring what you said in crossex into your speeches! Crossex is a strategic time to set up/make arguments.
4. Frame your speeches at the beginning of the 2NR/2AR! Tell my why you win and what I'm voting on. Make the judge do less work.
5. Do what you do best- don't let this/me be a reason to completely change your debating style!
Subject the email chain - Tournament Name Round # - Aff Team AFF vs Neg Team NEG
Debated at Maine East (2016-2020, TOC Circuit) and the University of Pittsburgh (2020-2023, NDT Qual)
I will boost speaker points if you follow @careerparth on tiktok, bring (vegetarian) food/snacks, and end the debate as fast as possible.
I took most of this paradigm from Reed Van Schenck:
Career wise, my arguments of preference were more critical (Afropessimism, Settler Colonialism, Capitalism, and the likes). I enjoy judging clash debates, policy vs critical. Traditional policy debaters should take note of my lack of experience in policy v policy debates and rank me very low on their judging preferences.
The one thing you should know if you want my ballot is this: If you say something, defend it. I mean this in the fullest sense: Do not disavow arguments that you or your partner make in binding speeches and cross-examination periods, but rather defend them passionately and holistically. If you endorse any strategy, you should not just acknowledge but maintain its implications in all relevant realms of the debate. The quickest way to lose in front of me is to be apprehensive about your own claims.
When in doubt, referring to the judging philosophies of the following folks will do you well: Micah Weese, Reed Van Schenck, Calum Matheson, Alex Holguin, & Alex Reznik
Everything below this line is a proclivity of mine that can be negotiated through debate:
I think that debate is a game with pedagogical and political implications. As such, I see my role as a judge as primarily to determine who won the debate but also to facilitate the debaters' learning. Everything can be an impact if you find a way to weigh it against other impacts, this includes procedural fairness. When my ballot is decided on the impact debate, I tend to vote for whoever better explains the material consequence of their impact. Use examples. Examples can help to elucidate (the lack of) solvency, establish link stories, make comparative arguments, and so many more useful things. They are also helpful for establishing your expertise on the topic. All thing said, at the end of the day, I will adapt to your argument style.
I dislike judges who exclude debaters because of what they decide to read in a debate round, I will NOT do that as long as you don't say anything racist, sexist, etc.
Speaker points are arbitrary. I tend to give higher speaker points to debaters who show a thorough understanding of the arguments they present. I am especially impressed by debaters who efficiently collapse in the final rebuttals. I will boost speaker points if rebuttals are given successfully with prep time remaining and/or off the flow!
Public Forum Debate
The faster you end the debate, the higher your speaks.
I am a flow-centric judge on the condition your arguments are backed with evidence and are logical. My background is in policy debate, but regardless of style, and especially important in PF, I think it's necessary to craft a broad story that connects what the issue is, what your solution is, and why you think you should win the debate.
I like evidence qualification comparisons and "if this, then that" statements when tied together with logical assumptions that can be made. Demonstrating ethos, confidence, and good command of your and your opponent's arguments is also very important in getting my ballot.
I will like listening to you more if you read smart, innovative arguments. Don't be rude, cocky, and/or overly aggressive especially if your debating and arguments can't back up that "talk." Not a good look.
Give an order before your speech
I am new to judging. I will look for believable arguments and clear communication. Please present specific and current evidence if possible.
Hi! I'm Kim Smith, and this is my second year judging both speech and debate. I am a short story author, former journalist, and playwright, and work in international advertising. My daughter is a second-year on the Newton South PF team.
For Public Forum: I definitely fall under the category of a "lay" judge. I will write down the main points of your contentions and their impacts as long as I am able to follow along with them. Make sure to weigh!! Explain how/why your points are more important than your opponents. It's easier for me to follow along if you create a clear narrative.
Speaker points: Eye contact is key. Make sure to make eye contact with me when talking about points that are really important (ex: impacts, turns). Please try not to speak too fast, as online/virtual sound is not as crisp and clear. However, I understand how that can be a challenge for some people. I say this because the slower you speak, the more likely I am to catch what you are saying and be able to write it down.
Good luck!
I am a parent judge who has judged at previous public forum tournaments. I am mainly a tabula rasa judge.
As public forum is a style of debate which is meant to be for the public, I am more inclined to vote for teams that effectively do the following:
Please give me definitions in the framework. I am a tabula rasa judge, but I will do minimal research on the topic beforehand. Still, I would like some definitions to accompany your argument.
Articulate your arguments and do not spread. I cannot keep up with teams who read their arguments quickly, hoping that they can get as many points in as they can. Please read your arguments at a slow to moderate pace.
Explain your arguments "for the public". Public Forum, once again, is for the public! If you start rattling off high-level economic theories, I probably won't be able to understand them! That being said, if you can explain these arguments, instead of just citing cards, I am more likely to understand your argument.
Keep track of the flow. I will write down arguments and rebuttals, but I am not a "flow judge", so please signpost and tell me what arguments you are responding to in your speeches.
High speaker points will be given to teams who can effectively do the aforementioned.
Be respectful to the other team at all times.
Time yourself.
Speak slowly and clearly.
Clear articulation of claim, warrant, data, and impact.
Good evidence to the point, no spreading please.
Debated at Lexington for 3 years from 2015-2017 in policy. Currently not debating, judging sparingly.
TOP LEVEL
You should not change your strategy too drastically based on what you think I would like but instead do what you do best and do it well.
I am not too familiar with this year/season's high school topic (for policy or PF) so what you may assume to be common knowledge may be something I don't know. So if there's an abbreviation make sure to say what it stands for, etc.
If you have any questions that I may not have addressed feel free to ask before the round.
Add me to the email chain --> szhanghdp@gmail.com
PF
I will be keeping track of the speech times and prep time just for fairness sake, and dock speaker points if I find that something is off.
I will pretty much evaluate any argument that is legitimately warranted and clearly explained.
An argument needs to be in summary to be in final focus. The exception to this rule is if your speaking first and your opponent brings up some new arguments in their summary, in this case, it's fine for you to make a new response in final focus.
I won't flow cross-fires, so you must bring it into a speech for it to apply to the debate.
Please weigh and engage with your opponent’s arguments. I don't want to have to do this myself. Tell me why your winning on certain points (why your evidence or logic is better) and do impact calculus on the flow.
T:
Because of my lack of topic knowledge, please explain clearly what the topic would look like under your interpretation, and emphasis on impact calculus.
I am not as familiar with this year's high school topic so if you are planning on going for T or you are answering T make sure that you clearly explain how debates under you interp differs from that of your opponent. (ie case lists, ect,...)
DA:
Impact calculus - a convincing turns case argument is always good, and can strengthen a DA which has a weak impact.
Evidence matters. That means the arguments within a card, the recency of the evidence (when it comes to politics DAs), the relevance of links to the aff, as well as the qualifications of the authors. If you intend to re-highlight evidence, please explain why it matters.
CP:
I will default to kicking the counterplan.
CPs without evidence can be used to expose affs with weaknesses. Please don't read a CP that clearly won't be extended (weak, or non-existent net benefits). Obviously this is a difficult task for me to judge (as I have no topic knowledge), so just be reasonable.
Theory:
Condo - neg leaning
Process CP/PICs/arbitrary CPs that are similar or identical to the aff - aff leaning
Other CPs - neg leaning
Ks:
Make sure that the framework is clear on what I should be voting on (that goes for both teams).
As goes for all other arguments, line-by-line should be practiced by both teams in these debates.
K-Affs/Framework:
Fairness is an impact, but there needs to be an explanation as to why undermining fairness is not a good thing.
I am willing to listen to any strategy.
Peter Zopes
Speech and Debate Coach, Chelmsford High School
I participated in Policy Debate and Extemporaneous Speaking in high school (in the late 70s), though mostly Extemp. I teach US History, Speech and Debate, and Government. I’m in my fourteenth year of coaching Speech and Debate. I think formal debate and argumentation has real value; it drives public discourse and helps society progress. I am very interested in what I see going on in the debate community, though not all do I agree. That being said, here is my judging paradigm that outlines my position on debate.
The Resolution. I prefer substantive debate that focuses on the resolution. There is a reason we have a resolution, debate that! Be clear, concise, and clash. Be topical. Debate the contentions, the evidence, the link, warrant, etc. Don’t waste time on frameworks or arguing about debate! I’m not a fan of theory or kritiks. (They smack of deconstructionist word play!) Be professional, speak to the judge (me!) not your paper or laptop, and address your opponent with respect. Stand during the round. Dress professionally. (Yes, imagine that!) I can flow most things that comes my way, however, speed and volume (not loudness, but the amount of information put forth) do not necessarily further the debate.
Case and Evidence. This is key. In LD, debate is value based, you must demonstrate how your case is constructed to achieve the value and value criterion you identified. If not, this will negatively affect my judgment on the round. In PF show strong case development in support of your side of the resolution, with strong claims, evidence, and warrants. Arguments need to be developed and elaborated upon, not just with vague statements, but with supportive evidence (statistics, analogies, statements, data, etc, from philosophical, legal, theological, historic, and news sources). This should be used both in case development and rebuttal (when appropriate). Evidence used should be clearly identified in the reading of the card in terms of both author and source. (Name of author, title of article, and if needed title of publication and date) During rebuttal explain how you or your opponent did or did not support their side of the resolution via claim, evidence or warrant. Specifically identify voting issues raised, defended or dropped.
Speaker Points. Be professional, polite, articulate, strategic, and clear. This is the basis for determining speaker points. DON'T Spread or even try to talk really fast. All words have a clear beginning and end. I need to hear them. IF YOU SPREAD, YOU LOSE. Your case should be presented in a manner that is not over flowing with debate jargon or nomenclature.
Something to keep this in mind: In the original debates, if either Lincoln or Douglas conducted their debates in the manner modern debaters do, neither would have won. The audiences would have walked away. Modern LD and Policy debate may provide you with some great learning experiences, however, constructing and delivering a case in the manner I hear today is not one of them. All you are learning is how to deliver to a narrow, self-selected audience. I hope and will do what I can to prevent PF from proceeding down that path. Further, too often debaters dismiss parent judges for not knowing enough about debate. That is the wrong mindset. It is not the parent judges' job to become an expert in your type of debate or the resolution. Your job is to educate them on the resolution and your case, and convince them your position is correct. You need to adjust your delivery to reach them. The number one consideration for any debater or speaker is reaching their audience. If you lose the audience, you lose the debate. Simple. The supposed "cool" judges who let you do whatever you want are not helping you develop your skills beyond the narrow world of debate. Selecting judges with widely different judging paradigms does! Good luck!
Update. I prefer a narrative presentation of the arguments. Telling me you are "frontlining' this, "extending" that, is overtly technical and undermines the rhetorical nature of the event which we chose to engage. Avoid the nomenclature of debate - identifying the structure various parts of or the process of argument, but explain to me, in clear concise language, what arguments you are advancing in the round and why they have impact compared to your opponents' arguments. Good speaking, like good writing, is precise and concise, avoids jargon and uses common, proscribed vernacular.