Michigan JV States Tournament
2021 — NSDA Campus, MI/US
Public Forum Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideHi everyone! My name is Emma Gavriliuc and I'm a junior at the University of Michigan (Go Blue!)
Yes, put me on the email chain: eagavriliuc@gmail.com
Experience:
I did PF for one year and am now an assistant coach for our middle school pf and policy teams. I've done policy for four years so I'm fine with speed and just about any argument, but if you're unclear I will not try to decipher your arguments for you. Clarity over speed always.
For Policy Debate:
Top-Level:
- I read along with speech docs and prefer clear, relatively slow, and organized debates.
- Again, send me the docs. You have my email.
- Card quality and recency is huge - evidence quality in general is an important and valuable component
- Share docs with all parties, if it's a new aff I will still chalk non-shared docs up to the aff simply being bad.
- Generally against war-good arguments, I see very little persuasion and relevance. They're just not convincing
- Use Cross-X effectively and bring any arguments through to your speeches, I will not flow cross-x but its valid if it comes up in your speech later
How to sway me:
- Give me a clear picture and clear understanding of the world you are presenting
- Evidence quality is important - so is recency
- I enjoy and will be more persuaded by a slower debate with strong arguments and evidence. If you're faster, I can and will follow - but please
- The 2nr/2ar should spend the first 15-20 seconds explaining how I should vote with judge instruction.
- If you laid a trap, tell me, because I’m probably not going to vote on something that wasn’t flagged as an argument.
- Have, utilize, and explain internal links!
What I don't like
- Word PICs - unless you genuinely think you can make me care and that it will change the course of the debate, I think these are just silly
- Negs that start with 9 + offcase positions, I prefer quality to quantity. It's, of course, fine to start with more than what you end with - but please don't just throw things out there for the sake of wasting time
- Offensive language - don't do it. Don't be rude to your partners, your opponents, or me. If you're rude or offensive, it will drastically impact your points and my perception as well. Just be nice
- No old camp blocks - I've seen them. Try not to use them. It won't lose you a round, but you can do better and the round will be better as a whole with your own blocks as well
Topicality:
- Be intentional with topicality. Make sure you have all components of topicality included in your shell. Make it relevant to the round and topic and please do flesh out any impacts associated
- That said, I like debates that have stories. I like debates about real topics with real clashing of arguments. Use topicality if you want, but not to the extent that the debate loses the essence of the topic at hand.
Critical affs:
- Is there a role of the ballot? Make that clear
- Framework: Explain the topical version of the aff; use your framework impacts to turn/answer the impacts of the 1ac; if you win framework you win the debate because…
- A debate has to occur and happen within the speech order/times of the invite; the arguments are made are up to the debaters and I generally enjoy a broad range of arguments
Kritiks:
- Not a fan of high theory, but I'll listen to them
- Framework is huge - what is the framework for evaluating the debate? What does voting for the alternative signify? What should I think of the aff’s truth statements?
- Please please please be clear and consistent with what your alt is
- Perms are really persuasive to me - if you want to win against a perm be really careful with the arguments you're presenting and how you go about it on the neg. I tend to vote aff on perms but I do get excited by negs that respond well and can convince me otherwise
Disads
- Overviews on disads are good - please do include
- Focus on internal links here please
Counterplans
- Please have a specific and clearly described solvency advocate and solvency mechanism
- Consult and conditions counterplans are probably illegitimate - if you think you can convince me otherwise, please do give it a try
Theory/Rules:
- I guess they're fine but flesh the impact and value of these arguments
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For Public Forum:
As a judge, I assure you that I will not vote based on my personal beliefs. What you give me is what I will weigh.
I am looking for clear, concise contentions supported by solid and specific pieces of credible evidence that build a persuasive argument.
I can tell if you haven't listened to your opponents arguments so please do yourself a favor and actually flow.
I will be updating my paradigm frequently based on things that I do and do not want to see.
When Speaking:
- Be confident but don't be cocky
- Be clear
- Remember that you're trying to persuade ME not your opponents.
Do:
- Clash with each others arguments rather than simply reiterating your own points
- Extend the arguments that you are winning on
- Use the cross-examination to ask probing questions about opponents’ evidence and arguments (evidence comparison makes me happy)
- Clearly explain to me how the argument your team built is more persuasive than your opponents’ argument
- Defense is good, but don't overlook offense
- Organize your speech strategically please
- Tell me what your winning on and what your opponents have dropped as well - leverage these things
Don't:
- Say anything rude, offensive, insensitive, or derogatory - none of it will fly with me and it shouldn't fly with anyone else either
- Speak over opponents or your partner in round
- Just say that you won without proving to me why I should actually vote for you and why your arguments have won you the round
I look forward to watching you debate!
General:
My email is Benglick78@gmail.com, I'd like to be on the chain.
Please also add the email grovesdebatedocs@gmail.com to the email chain.
If I ever judge you and you have questions that you didn't ask after the round, please feel free to email me whatever your questions are.
I'm Ben Glick, a former policy debater at Groves High School. My pronouns are he/him.
I'm a normal person, so you can call me Ben, not judge, if you're comfortable.
I will very likely forget to include a lot of relevant information, so you can ask me anything about my paradigm before the debate.
Questions like where did you end or what cards did you read are cross ex questions. If you're gonna ask, do it in cross not before.
Ks:
I'm probably not the best judge if you plan on reading high theory or super complex Ks. Considering I haven't read a lot of K lit, if you plan on reading these types of Ks make sure you are explaining it. During my time debating and judging, I've become more familiar with several Ks: Death Drive, some queer theory, some reps Ks, set col, misc Ks. Point being, I can understand the K, and I really enjoy K debates. However, there is a lot of lit am unfamiliar with, so make sure you actually understand the K you are running the the point where you can clearly articulate the concept of your K, the alt, and the links to the aff. Historically, I have been more sympathetic to voting on f/w plus links than I think other judges are, so if you are clearly winning on f/w thats an option assuming you're reading the right type of f/w. I also really enjoy subject formation type arguments because I think they are generally true in the case of debate.
K affs:
My thoughts on this are very similar. My knowledge of the specific literature for K affs is also limited. I have read, helped make, and judged k affs before, so I am not clueless. The parts of the K aff that I have a weaker understanding of would be your specific solvency mechanism or specific K theory. I'm probably not a great judge to read a K aff in front of, but it's not something I will refuse to hear in a debate.
T:
One suggestion I will make is if you're extending T into the block, please don't just go full speed, monotone through the whole flow. T debates don't use a lot of cards, and it's hard to flow when I'm getting 18 unclear analytics per second. So just be clear and signpost between arguments on the flow.
Please have an interpretation that makes sense with your violation. I have seen too many rounds in the state of Michigan where a team just doesn't read a interpretation or reads a violation that doesn't make sense with the interpretation read. Think of it like a DA. You wouldn't read a politics DA without uniqueness, and you wouldn't read a plan saps PC link with a floor time uniqueness story.
Also, neg you don't need to formally concede T, and aff you don't need to inform me that the neg did not extend T
CPs and CP theory:
As a debater, I tended to lean neg on counterplan theory, the consequences of being a 2N. More recently, I think my opinions have began to move in the other direction. Really, I can be convinced of anything, just be able to defend whatever type of CP you're reading. I'm up for a theory debate. I love a smart PIC.
Case:
I think the case flows are a really underappreciated portion of debate. I really enjoy negatives that take advantage of 1AC rehighlights and creative offense on case. Honestly, creative arguments in general. They will go a long way. When we have to sit through 3 straight minutes of impact defense, no one wins.
Special Section, NSDA Nationals
Welcome! If you’re reading this, then we are definitely going to be meeting each other. I wish you all the best: congratulations on being at Nationals. Below are the Public Forum paradigm, and an expansion of my normal National paradigm (building on the NSDA document you already have).
Public Forum
A lot of what I have in my Policy paradigm (below) applies here. Here’s what to keep in mind:
Audience. Unlike the more technical Policy, I understand Public Forum as Outward Facing whose intended audience is someone reasonably informed. Terms and ideas are expected to be accessible. Rhetoric (diction, vocal presentation) are important factors.
Spread. Keep it rapid and conversational (roughly 150 w.p.m.). Excessive speed violates Outward Facing. Further, with spread, clarity about tags and structure is critical, as is enunciation.
Comparative Advantage. I will compare the two sides relative to advantages and how they meet their Framework (below). I expect both sides to make affirmative cases as to why I should prefer their reasoning. You will not win by solely attacking the other side; your case matters. Be clear about your impacts.
Framework. Show how your case fulfills or meets your framework (this is the core of Comparative Advantage for me). If given time you should explain why your framework is to be preferred.
Policy
In formal terms I follow an open policy paradigm. I'm a realist; I come from politics and extemp. For me, debate deals with the questions and discussions we (community/society) deal with in the public, decision-making space. Of course, all discussions have social locations and thus can be profitably interrogated by critical theory or explored through CPs; just show me why it matters or how it connects to our decision-making.
Leave academic or debate theory arguments outside. I will find them interesting, even entertaining, but not decisive.
Some practical details:
• Impacts do not have to go to catastrophe to be persuasive (especially the N-war move). Plausibility counts.
• I pay attention to how links are made, how the internal logic works. If you call attention to a dropped argument, show me why it matters, otherwise, I will defer to the points of clash.
• Where the argument turns on a key piece of evidence, I may examine to determine how much weight to give it (i.e. reliable, authoritative etc.) I am open to voting on T.
• And last, as a practical matter, I have old ears, so make tags clear. Preferred delivery rate tops out at 180 wpm.
Now for some additional Nationals Specifics/extensions
Off-case: Kritiks
As noted above I am open to arguments that illumine where an argument is (culturally) situated. I tend to treat Ks as a relative of the DA or perhaps a CP
Ks that I am comfortable with:
structural racism, Afro-pessimism
Neo-liberalism , colonialisms
the Foucaldian suite of approaches, including biopower
Other critical theory approaches: be cautious. I will not be able to track you as fast. Practically this means I will lean into the card re: authority.
Meta theory, debate theory — no. I find these involve a host of tacit assumptions that I may or may not be willing to accede to.
Off-Case: CPs
On a continuum of the very focused or limited to the very broad, I lean to the focused side.
as CPs expand, I tend to defer to the Aff
Extensive CPs carry similar burden as the 1AC.
Conditionality — there are strategic reasons to drop a CP, I will accept this within reason. (NOTE on the NSDA paradigm I’m a bit more conservative)
PICs — Use with caution. I hear these as a stepping stone, a way to interrogate the AFF case. The idea of testing the case with a “what about” that isolates an issue… good. When it is a broader form, I want to know how you avoid the DAs of the AFF case
Bright Lines or what’s out of bounds
Abusive behavior in the round (language; overly aggressive CX).
Refuse polarization. Extending abusive behavior to culture. I realize this is a challenge in our polarized culture; stay clear of the easy ad hom attack on “them”.
Cases that advocate violence in order to work.
Arguments that advocate non-democratic solutions. This can crop up in Ks: how does Power not end up in oppressing the many?
Name – Joe Kelly
Current institutional affiliation – Hired judge
Current role at institution – Hired per tournament
Previous institutional affiliations and role: East Kentwood, Michigan State University - debater. East Lansing High School, Waverly Middle School - director of debate.
Debating experience
High school and college debater – graduated college more than 10 years ago
If you debated what speech did you do most often? 1N/2A
What do you view your role as the judge in the debate? If you don’t put me in another paradigm, I will default to trying to choose the best policy option. That said, I'm familiar with policy and kritik debates.
Purpose of Philosophy
In what ways do you intend this judge philosophy to be helpful to debaters? In other words, what would you hope debaters would do with this philosophy?
It has been a few years since I debated, and I will recommend that students adapt in a couple ways:
1) Slow down. I believe the ink on my flow will be maximized if you speak at 85-90% of your top speed.
2) Look at me. I tend to be rather expressive. If I’m not writing something down or if I look confused, it may help you if you elaborate on your position.
Evaluative Practices and Views on Debate Round Logistics
Do you take flash time as prep time? In other words, when does prep begin and end with you? Do you expect debaters to keep track of their own prep time?
I don't count flashing /emailing as prep. I will keep track of time.
Do you have teams provide you speech documents throughout the debate by flashing or emailing them to you? Do you have teams provide speech documents throughout the debate by emailing them to you?
If you could email me, that would be great.
If you do, why have you adopted this practice? If you do not, have you made a conscious decision not to and if so why?
I think it provides greater transparency and clarity. I will try to flow your information during the round, and so, I won’t always be able to read your evidence while you are. This is still a speech activity.
What is your normal range for speaker points and why? What can earn extra speaker points for a debater? What can cost speaker points for a debater, even if they win the debate?
My normal range is 26-29.5. You can lose points by being rude, behaving unethically. You can earn points by speaking clearly, making good strategic choices and good arguments.
Do you say clearer out loud if a debater is unclear? Is there a limit to the number of times you will say clearer if you do? Do you use other non-verbal cues to signal a lack of clarity?
I will say clear. I will also give non-verbal cues. Debaters can check to see if I am flowing or if I look confused.
Do you find yourself reading a lot of evidence after the debate?
I may read evidence if there is a question as to what the evidence says. If evidence is uncontested, I will probably not read it after the round.
Do you evaluate the un-underlined parts of the evidence even if the debaters do not make that an argument?
I may provide commentary about it, but I will try not to let it affect my opinion of the round if it was not brought up.
If you read evidence after a debate, why do you tend to find yourself reading the evidence?
If it is contested.
What are your predispositions or views on the following:
Topicality
I generally think it is a voting issue, but I could be persuaded otherwise.
Theory for the aff versus counterplans and/or kritiks
Theory is great. I'm generally persuaded to reject the argument, not the team.
Affirmative’s need to read a plan in order to win on the aff
I think there are some pretty good arguments in favor of the aff having a stable advocacy.
Performance teams that use elements other than spoken word (such as songs, dance, poetry, silence) to support their arguments
Sounds good.
What types of debates do you enjoy the most and why?
Could you list out some situations here?
For example, “I prefer a DA and case debate.”
Counterplan, Disadvantage, Case is a pretty good debate. Line-by-line refutation is important. This is just what I’m most familiar with. I’m open to other debates as well.
I am the Co- Director of Debate at Wylie E. Groves HS in Beverly Hills, MI. I have coached high school debate for 49 years, debated at the University of Michigan for 3.5 years and coached at Michigan for one year (in the mid 1970s). I have coached at summer institutes for 48 years.
Please add me to your email chains at johnlawson666@gmail.com.
I am open to most types of argument but default to a policy making perspective on debate rounds. Speed is fine; if unintelligible I will warn several times, continue to flow but it's in the debater's ball park to communicate the content of arguments and evidence and their implication or importance. As of April 2023, I acquired my first set of hearing aids, so it would be a good idea to slow down a bit and make sure to clearly articulate. Quality of arguments is more important than sheer quantity. Traditional on- case debate, disads, counterplans and kritiks are fine. However, I am more familiar with the literature of so-called non mainstream political philosophies (Marxism, neoliberalism, libertarianism, objectivism) than with many post modern philosophers and psychoanalytic literature. If your kritik becomes an effort to obfuscate through mindless jargon, please note that your threshold for my ballot becomes substantially higher.
At the margins of critical debate, for example, if you like to engage in "semiotic insurrection," interface psychoanalysis with political action, defend the proposition that 'death is good,' advocate that debate must make a difference outside the "argument room" or just play games with Baudrilliard, it would be the better part of valor to not pref me. What you might perceive as flights of intellectual brilliance I am more likely to view as incoherent babble or antithetical to participation in a truly educational activity. Capitalism/neoliberalism, securitization, anthropocentrism, Taoism, anti-blackness, queer theory, IR feminism, ableism and ageism are all kritiks that I find more palatable for the most part than the arguments listed above. I have voted for "death good" and Schlag, escape the argument box/room, arguments more times than I would like to admit (on the college and HS levels)-though I think these arguments are either just plain silly or inapplicable to interscholastic debate respectively. Now, it is time to state that my threshold for voting for even these arguments has gotten much higher. For example, even a single, persuasive turn or solid defensive position against these arguments would very likely be enough for me to vote against them.
I am less likely to vote on theory, not necessarily because I dislike all theory debates, but because I am often confronted with competing lists of why something is legitimate or illegitimate, without any direct comparison or attempt to indicate why one position is superior to the other on the basis of fairness and/or education. In those cases, I default to voting to reject the argument and not the team, or not voting on theory at all.
Specifically regarding so-called 'trigger warning' argument, I will listen if based on specific, explicit narratives or stories that might produce trauma. However, oblique, short references to phenomena like 'nuclear war,' 'terrorism,' 'human trafficking,' various forms of violence, genocide and ethnic cleansing in the abstract are really never reasons to vote on the absence of trigger warnings. If that is the basis for your argument (theoretical, empirically-based references), please don't make the argument. I won't vote on it.
In T or framework debates regarding critical affirmatives or Ks on the negative, I often am confronted with competing impacts (often labeled disadvantages with a variety of "clever" names) without any direct comparison of their relative importance. Again, without the comparisons, you will never know how a judge will resolve the framework debate (likely with a fair amount of judge intervention).
Additionally, though I personally believe that the affirmative should present a topical plan or an advocacy reasonably related to the resolution, I am somewhat open to a good performance related debate based on a variety of cultural, sociological and philosophical concepts. My personal antipathy to judge intervention and willingness to change if persuaded make me at least open to this type of debate. Finally, I am definitely not averse to voting against the kritik on either the affirmative or negative on framework and topicality-like arguments. On face, I don't find framework arguments to be inherently exclusionary.
As to the use of gratuitous/unnecessary profanity in debate rounds: "It don't impress me much!" Using such terms doesn't increase your ethos. I am quite willing to deduct speaker points for their systemic use. The use of such terms is almost always unnecessary and often turns arguments into ad hominem attacks.
Disclosure and the wiki: I strongly believe in the value of pre-round disclosure and posting of affirmatives and major negative off-case positions on the NDCA's wiki. It's both educationally sound and provides a fair leveling effect between teams and programs. Groves teams always post on the wiki. I expect other teams/schools to do so. Failure to do so, and failure to disclose pre-round, should open the offending team to a theory argument on non-disclosure's educational failings. Winning such an argument can be a reason to reject the team. In any case, failure to disclose on the wiki or pre-round will likely result in lower speaker points. So, please use the wiki!
Finally, I am a fan of the least amount of judge intervention as possible. The line by line debate is very important; so don't embed your clash so much that the arguments can't be "unembedded" without substantial judge intervention. I'm not a "truth seeker" and would rather vote for arguments I don't like than intervene directly with my preferences as a judge. Generally, the check on so-called "bad" arguments and evidence should be provided by the teams in round, not by me as the judge. This also provides an educationally sound incentive to listen and flow carefully, and prepare answers/blocks to those particularly "bad" arguments so as not to lose to them. Phrasing this in terms of the "tech" v. "truth" dichotomy, I try to keep the "truth" part to as close to zero (%) as humanly possible in my decision making. "Truth" can sometimes be a fluid concept and you might not like my perspective on what is the "correct" side of a particular argument..
An additional word or two on paperless debate and new arguments. There are many benefits to paperless debate, as well as a few downsides. For debaters' purposes, I rarely take "flashing" time out of prep time, unless the delay seems very excessive. I do understand that technical glitches do occur. However, once electronic transmission begins, all prep by both teams must cease immediately. This would also be true if a paper team declares "end prep" but continues to prepare. I will deduct any prep time "stolen" from the team's prep and, if the problem continues, deduct speaker points. Prep includes writing, typing and consulting with partner about strategy, arguments, order, etc.
With respect to new arguments, I do not automatically disregard new arguments until the 2AR (since there is no 3NR). Prior to that time, the next speaker should act as a check on new arguments or cross applications by noting what is "new" and why it's unfair or antithetical to sound educational practice. I do not subscribe to the notion that "if it's true, it's not new" as what is "true" can be quite subjective.
PUBLIC FORUM ADDENDUM:
Although I have guest presented at public forum summer institutes and judged some public forum rounds, it is only these last few weeks that I have started coaching PF. This portion of my philosophy consists of a few general observations about how a long time policy coach and judge will likely approach judging public forum judging:
1. For each card/piece of evidence presented, there should, in the text, be a warrant as to why the author's conclusions are likely correct. Of course, it is up to the opponent(s) to note the lack of, or weakness, in the warrant(s).
2. Arguments presented in early stages of the round (constructives, crossfire) should be extended into the later speeches for them to "count." A devastating crossfire, for example, will count for little or nothing if not mentioned in a summary or final focus.
3. I don't mind and rather enjoy a fast, crisp and comprehensible round. I will very likely be able to flow you even if you speak at a substantially faster pace than conversational.
4. Don't try to extend all you constructive arguments in the final stages (summary, final focus) of the round. Narrow to the winners for your side while making sure to respond to your opponents' most threatening arguments. Explicitly "kick out" of arguments that you're not going for.
5. Using policy debate terminology is OK and may even bring a tear to my eye. I understand quite well what uniqueness, links/internal links, impacts, impact and link turns, offense and defense mean. Try to contextualize them to the arguments in the round rather than than merely tossing around jargon.
6. I will ultimately vote on the content/substance/flow rather than on generalized presentational/delivery skills. That means you should flow as well (rather than taking random notes, lecture style) for the entire round (even when you've finished your last speech).
7. I view PF overall as a contest between competing impacts and impact turns. Therefore specific impact calculus (magnitude, probability, time frame, whether solving for your impact captures or "turns" your opponents' impact(s)) is usually better than a general statement of framework like "vote for the team that saves more lives."
8. The last couple of topics are essentially narrow policy topics. Although I do NOT expect to hear a plan, I will generally consider the resolution to be the equivalent of a "plan" in policy debate. Anything which affirms or negates the whole resolution is fair game. I would accept the functional equivalent of a counterplan (or an "idea" which is better than the resolution), a "kritik" which questions the implicit assumptions of the resolution or even something akin to a "topicality" argument based on fairness, education or exclusion which argues that the pro's interpretation is not the resolution or goes beyond it. An example would be dealert, which might be a natural extension of no first use but might not. Specifically advocating dealert is arguably similar to an extratopical plan provision in policy debate.
9. I will do my level headed best to let you and your arguments and evidence decide the round and avoid intervention unless absolutely necessary to resolve an argument or the round.
10. I will also strive to NOT call for cards at the end of the round even if speech documents are rarely exchanged in PF debates.
11. I would appreciate a very brief road map at the beginning of your speeches.
12. Finally, with respect to the presentation of evidence, I much prefer the verbatim presentation of portions of card texts to brief and often self serving paraphrasing of evidence. That can be the basis of resolving an argument if one team argues that their argument(s) should be accepted because supporting evidence text is read verbatim as opposed to an opponent's paraphrasing of cards.
13. Although I'm willing to and vote for theory arguments in policy debate, I certainly am less inclined to do so in public forum. I will listen, flow and do my best not to intervene but often find myself listening to short lists of competing reasons why a particular theoretical position is valid or not. Without comparison and refutation of the other team's list, theory won't make it into my RFD. Usually theoretical arguments are, at most, a reason to reject a specific argument but not the team.
Overall, if there is something that I haven't covered, please ask me before the round begins. I'm happy to answer. Best wished for an enjoyable, educational debate.
Email: shannonnierman@gmail.com
I debated for Wylie E. Groves High School for four years, debated for 3 years at MSU, and currently coach at Groves.
Topicality: I’m not opposed to voting on T, but rereading T shells is insufficient. There needs to be substantial work on the interpretations debate from both teams, in addition to the standards and voters debate, i.e. education and fairness. As long as the aff is reasonably topical and it is proven so, T is probably not a voter. Also, if you are going for T in the 2NR, go for only T, and do so for all 5 minutes.
Counterplans: Any type of counterplan is fine; however, if it is abusive, do not leave it for me to decide this, make these arguments.
Disads: Any type of DA is fine. A generic link in the 1NC is okay, but I think that throughout the block the evidence should be link specific. When extending the DA in the block, an overview is a must. The first few words I should here on the DA flow is “DA outweighs and turns case for X and Y reasons.”
Kritiks: I will vote on the K, but I often find that in the K rounds people undercover the alternative debate. When getting to this part of the K, explain what the world of the alternative would look like, who does the alternative, if the aff can function in this world, etc. I am well versed in psychoanalytic literature i.e. Zizek and Lacan and I do know the basis of a plethora of other Ks. This being said, I should learn about the argumentation in the round through your explanation and extrapolation of the authors ideas; not use what I know about philosophy and philosophers or what like to read in my free time. Read specific links in the block and refrain from silly links of omission.
Theory: I am not opposed to voting on theory, but it would make my life a lot easier if it didn’t come down to this. This is not because I dislike the theory debate rather I just believe that it is hard to have an actual educational and clear theory debate from each side of the debate. Now, this said, if a theory argument is dropped, i.e. conditionality bad, by all means, go for it!
Performance: An interesting and unique type of debate that should still relate to the resolution. As long as there is substantive and legitimate argumentation through your rapping or dancing and whatever else you can come up with, I am willing to vote on it. Even if you are rapping, I would prefer to have a plan text to start.
*As technology is vital in our life, many of us have switched toward paperless debate. I do not use prep for flashing, because I have also debated both off of paper and paperlessly in debate and I understand that technology can sometimes be your opponent in the round, rather than the other team. I am being a nice and fair judge in doing this, so please do not abuse this by stealing prep, because I will most likely notice and take away that stolen prep.
FAQs: Speed – I’m okay with speed as long as you are clear!
Tag teaming - I’m okay with it as long as it’s not excessive.
Things not to do in rounds I’m judging: go for RVIs, go for everything in the 2NR, and be mean. Believe it or not, there is a distinction between being confident and having ethos vs. being rude and obnoxious when you don’t have the right to be.
I'm open to basically any argument but keep this in mind
I'm a varsity debater for groves high school, so I have a fair idea about most debate rounds (because I do them like every week)
my email for the chain is spooky.science.nerd@gmail.com
if you ask me for the email in chat, I'm going to assume that you're NOT reading my paradigm (which is an excellent habit to get into, and an expectation of varsity kids).
general comments about the debate are at the bottom
-If you're going for T, do it all out. I'm less likely to vote on it if you go for everything in the last speech (this should be common sense but some people forget). I also think that T outdoes a cp/da but will take more convincing for it to outdo k/case (not saying I won't be convinced: a good argument will almost always be able to sway me).
be clear why the aff does not meet the standard, and you have to say why the counterinterp is bad/worse with warrants/impacts. I like reasonability arguments so your arguments have to be solid on this.
for the aff, please provide counterinterps/standards, etc- just saying "their definition is dumb" is not sufficient and won't work.
-I like kritiks but you need to make sure to properly extend/explain the link (or call out the lack of that), give viable reasons why "___ will/won't work" I also think "no alt bad" type arguments are good to make. overall, don't run a Kritik for the sake of adding more arguments to your speech. You need to add all proper components of it for it to have a better chance of doing well. please present your weird kritik in a way that I can understand it and not just philosophical jargon, I have been reading more literature and a good kritik explains the basis but I know there are some really weird ones out there. Neg has to explain clear and non generic link, I NEED in depth explanation of ks in the later speeches. I probably tend to lean a little aff on kritiks for teams who are like "ha 8 off and case, 3 of which are one card kritiks that i don't understand!"
for DAs, my god please keep your ev recent for politics das. its absolutely crucial for current politics, esp on uq debates and less so for links. like please do not separate your da debate into sections, I'm not going to flow "uq debate, link debate" etc.
-counterplans not a fan of "___cp is bad/good" but this isn't my argument, I'm only judging it. if it's well-argued I will vote for it. have a good plan text and explain solvency and such mechanism later on well.
-theory is just neutral. I don't find either side particularly swaying, and if you impact/explain it enough I might vote on it. please don't make it come down to theory etc etc. I think theory v theory is fun to watch and judge but it gets really tricky really quick, so each side needs to tell me what to way and what is dropped
-framework is very good! I personally find the framework interesting to judge. also please understand your argument and words before running it.
for DA/K: if they prove no link then there's no link and I consider it dropped.
general comments:
if the opponent is clipping and you call them out on it, they will lose. if they're clipping and you don't they just get terrible speaks. if the opp team doesn't call it out, you're still loosing if i notice.
-PROVE in round abuse. if you successfully do so, I will probably vote on it
-if you drop an arg, and the other team doesn't jump on it, nobody gets it. if you drop and then extend it later, I won't be happy, but if the other team doesn't object it will be counted.
"they brought up a new arg/they dropped and re-extended/shadow extended" is not something that is inherent, you must point these out and call them out for abuse for it to be viable.
-speed is ok, but try not to intentionally jumble just to get more in; I will warn you if I cant understand. I can also tell when you're jumbling on purpose.
-overall, I don't have a hatred for any argument. I will vote on anything with enough convincing/clarity and the progression of the argument.
-LINE BY LINE IS GOOD! I prefer debates that don't just read cards for all of the speeches. clash is good and I like seeing it happen
-Please don't forget overviews. your speaks will be hurt if you do, just don't do it.
-if I catch you cheating, it's an automatic loss and loss of speaks. (this also goes for discrimination/bigotry in the round)
-tag teaming: is fine as long as you don't speak over each other. be assertive but respectful during cx. if you are constantly talking over the opponents cx i will not be happy. do not start a screaming over each other match.
-on that note, if your teammate is struggling during their speech, you will not be penalized for promoting them (so long as it's not excessive- if your speech is like 2/8 min and very poorly structured, that speaks for itself.) but if they have some time left go ahead and prompt.
-absolutely do not be rude to your opponent/excessively use sarcasm/aggression during your speeches and ESPECIALLY during cx. that being said, I don't mind bold or confident speeches, but just don't be mean. on this topic, the opposite team can cut you off during cx if they have gotten the information they needed- please don't say "they were being rude during cx :(((" because that won't work.
-overall, don't tailor your arguments to my paradigm. anything that is properly structured is viable, and I like seeing unique arguments.
Sup, I'm Janai (if you're here you probably know that lol).
I debated in high school for Groves, in college for Wayne State University and coached High school policy and some middle school PF.
Basically, do what you do best and trust that will carry you!
Please try your very best not to say anything offensive: racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-queer, homophobic, ableist, xenophobic, classist, etc.
Im fine with every traditional and non-traditional thing we do in debate... dont be rude, debate the best you can, don't drop content if possible, have fun learning new ideas, do you with confidence!
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Okay, now that I've said that:
While I debated in high school for four years, and in college for two, it was a while ago. I have VERY LIMITED familiarity with most Kritiks and definitely not as fast a flow as I used to be. That said, you needn't act like you are giving an "after dinner speech". Related to speed, I also appreciate intelligibility. My motto is, "If I can't understand what you said, I can't flow it and if I can't flow it, I can't vote on it." To borrow a statement from my Ex-Husband, David Zin, "Debate is still a communication activity, even if we rip along at several hundred words a minute."
I am a bit of a traditionalist: I tend to have a stock issues approach to the AFF, I like clear and succinct tags on evidence. You can read the evidence as fast as you want (assuming you are intelligible). I appreciate it when the 2NR/2AR not only provide me with justification as to why they win, but contrasts their position to the other team and explain how they outweigh.
Tag team CX is okay, within reason. I award speaker points based on the quality/content of the speeches as well as CX performance. I want all of the debaters to be able to think on their feet and not rely solely on their partner to "carry them through the round". Please demonstrate your independent understanding and mastery of the material (this will be rewarded).
Finally, I have a deep and profound respect for civility in a debate round. Your goal should be to prevail based on the content and quality of your argumentation, not on your ability to subject your opponent to abject misery and totally debase them. (This type of behavior will NOT be rewarded and you will NOT be happy with your Speaker Points as a result).
Please consider the following elements with an "X" denoting my position with respect to the spectrum of characteristics.
No Tag Team CX---------------------------X---Tag Team CX okay (within reason
Tech---------------------X----------------------Truth
Policy--X---------------------------------------Kritiks (As stated above, I have very limited experience with Kritiks.)
Theory--------------------------------------X------Substance
I'll read no cards----------------------X-----------I'll read all the cards
Lots of so-so cards ---------------------X-------- A few good, longer cards
Debate is about ideas--------------------X-------------------Debate is about people
Debate is good/valuable -X--------------------------------It's not
Conditionality bad-------------------------X--------------------Conditionality good
No process CPs ------------------------------X---------------Lit determines legitimacy
Politics DA not a thing --------------------------------X-------------(Good) Politics DA is a thing
Running Kritiks assuming I am infinitely UNFAMILIAR with them-----------------------X- Explain the K and the Alt and Framework
Framework with respect to Kritiks - PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW YOUR FRAMEWORK IS PREFERABLE and how I should weigh it!!!
Clarity--X-------------------------------------------Unintelligibility (Trust me on this!)
I'm a robot-----------------------------------------X-Slow down on tags/cites/analytics/theory
Aff Ground--------------------X-------------------------Limits
Long overviews-----------------------------------X----Articulate positions, line by line
2NRs that collapse ---X------------------------------- 2NRs that go for everything
2ARs that assume I will vote AFF regardless------------------------------X-2ARs that tell my WHY to vote AFF.
I look forward to an enjoyable experience judging you and your team!