Rapid City Stevens Penguin Classic
2021 — Online, SD/US
Public Forum Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideI prefer debate that is suitable for a courtroom. Professional, clear, and well organized. Usually frameworks are a waste of time.
I am new to speech and debate so I am learning!
I'm not the best at flowing yet so I appreciate it when teams speak at a pace that allows me to keep up!
Debate is supposed to be a learning environment & a safe community; with that being said, be respectful. Please don't be a jerk to your opponents & in cx, that's a way to lose speaks quick. Rounds should be fun & comfortable, if there's anything I can do to accomplish this for you, don't hesitate to email me or ask questions before the round. gilles5@stolaf.edu
please sign post & have clear line by line
theory is fine but don't spend too much time on it
explicitly weigh your arguments & impacts against your opponents
the second rebuttal should respond to the first
clearly tell me how to vote in FF(say why u win!!); line by line or voters are chill in summary
don't expect me to vote off of something that was dropped earlier in the round. & i prefer to vote off of logical/tangible arguments versus an analytical/theoretical argument
do not paraphrase, read me the evidence clearly, if your opponents are paraphrasing, call it out!
most importantly, have a fun round :)
I have been coaching debate since 1980. I was a policy debater in high school. I have coached policy debate, Lincoln Douglas, Public Forum, Big Question and World Schools debate. I am also a congressional debate coach and speech coach.
LD-
It comes as no surprise based on my experience and age, that I am a traditional judge. I do keep up on current theory and practice, but do not agree with all of it. I am a traditional judge who believes that LDers need to present a value to support based in the resolution. A criterion is helpful if you want me to weigh the round in a certain way. Telling me you won your criterion so your opponent loses doesn't work for me, since I believe you win the round based on your value being upheld by voting affirmative or negative on the resolution. Telling me to weigh the round though using your criterion makes me very happy.
Voting Issues- I need these. I think debaters ought to tell me what to write on my flow and on my ballot.
Not a fan of K's, performance cases, counter plans, or DA's in LD. I know the reasons people do it. I don't think it belongs in this type of debate. I know debate is ever-evolving, but I believe we have different styles of debate and these don't belong here.
Flow: I was a policy debater. I flow most everything in the round.
Speed- The older I get the less I like speed. You will know if you are going too fast --- unless your head is buried in your laptop and you are not paying any attention to me. If I can't hear/understand it, I can't flow it. If I don't flow it, it doesn't count in the round.
Oral Comments- I don't give them.
Public Forum-
I have coached Public Forum since it began. I have seen it change a bit, but I still believe it is rooted in discussion that includes evidence and clear points.
Flow: I flow.
Public forum is about finding the 2 or 3 major arguments that are supported in the round with evidence. The two final focus speeches should explain why your side is superior in the round.
I am not a fan of speed in the round. This is not policy-light. I do not listen to the poor arguments moving into the PF world.
Hello! My name is Evan Kirksey and I have been actively involved in forensics for 9 years now, with high school, collegiate, and now coaching experience. I am also a recent Speech Communication and Theatre Education graduate, and am now a coach at The University of Central Missouri, so I am well versed in debate jargon. I can keep up with most arguments easily. However, I appreciate rounds that aren't entirely focused on jargon and tech. I like well developed arguments, clash, and rationale. If you just speed and spread through the round without actually explaining your arguments, you likely won't win my ballot. Be clear and concise about where you are on the flow, your responses, etc. Persuasion needs to play a role in your performance as a debater, or I will not be compelled to vote for you.
---[ Key Points ]---
Philosophy: Tabula Rasa, flow judge, and Key arguments tend to decide
Speed: Moderate / Sub-spread (250-350 WPM)
Case: Should be shared either in physical copy or digitally. Don't care how many contentions there are.
Tigger Warnings: Should be checked pre-round for sensitive material and ready to be switched out
---[ Personal Info ]---
Pronouns: (They/Them)
Email: Martin.Kloster@jacks.sdstate.edu
Experience: Policy, PF, LD, World Schools, and Big Questions. I also have experience in Oral Interp (Drama, Humorous, Duo, Readers Theatre), theatre, and Extempt. Fourth year judging.
Education: Junior at SDSU majoring in Sociology and minoring in Philosophy / Comp Sci. I have a good grasp on most of the concepts discussed in round.
Online ballots tend to be long and specific, and are filled out as a tournament goes on. I enter the results first, then update comments until all of my notes are down or I run out of time. If a ballot is blank or incomplete - or if there are any questions - then email me and I will do my best to communicate my RFD, notes, flow, and/or make clarifications.
---[ General Information ]---
/ Evidence /
I expect transparency first and foremost. If evidence is asked for it must be provided within one minute, after that prep time must be used. If evidence can't be provided then it will be dropped, and debaters can choose to drop evidence at any point in the round. Evidence should be linked back to the source material as a link or to the full text. Evidence should be a text document (word, google docs) or pdf because of paywalls and highlighting/marking. For summarized evidence, relevant text should be in some way marked or noted. Logic based arguments don't need sourcing or evidence. I prefer that a copy of the case is shared, but this is not required unless asked. The best way to share evidence and cases is through an email chain and the second best is through https://speechdrop.net/. This should be configured before the round.
/ Speed and Performance /
I have audio processing disorder and ADHD, so I can't keep up with full on spreading. I prefer moderate/sub-spread speed (250-350 wpm). Articulation and volume is important and will allow for higher speeds. Sharing a copy of the case will allow me to make up for the Audio Processing Disorder, meaning that I have an easier time judging and the debaters have better judging on their cases.
/ Default Weighing Preferences /
Pre-fiat K > T = Theory > Post-fiat K > Case
Don't get abusive with spikes and blips.
/ Kritiks /
Running K's:
I love K's when they are properly argued. Running K's have risks, and I expect them to be run well. K's are highly technical to set up and run, and it can end up falling apart with a simple mistake. The best way to mitigate risking a round is to be careful and/or fall back if the K fails. I also need signposting or communication that it is a K so I can judge it accordingly.
Defending against K's:
A debater should at least be prepared with generic defense. If you can get to the heart of the K and argue on that, you can probably beat it. One caution: arguing that the K is abusive without without warrants will fail. The more prepped a debater is against an argument, the less I will weigh limits abuse.
/ Theory /
I will weigh theory if it's argued well. Proper Theory arguments with good impacts will do well. I dislike Framers intent but do enjoy Topicality arguments as a whole.
/ Arguments /
I have biases like anyone else, but I make sure not to vote on them. Because I feel it is important for transparency to state them, I have listed them below....
I love hearing Marxist, Anarchist, Feminist, Critical Race Theory, Decolonization, Queer Theory, etc. Generally won't care about Econ arguments unless they are tied into impacts on living beings or have a framework to make it important. I Passively dislike Heg and Realism arguments, but am still willing to listen. Again: I will vote almost anything with solid warrants and argumentation.
/ Trigger Warnings /
Trigger Warnings should be given prior to the speech and before the round if it is in the case. If an opponent or judge is unable to interact with the sensitive material, a back up should be prepared or the point should be dropped. If you have the foresight and understanding to check about material before use I expect alternatives to be prepared.
/ Variations /
I weigh and judge Novice differently than I do Varsity, and am more strict with how K's are ran in state.
---[ Lincoln-Douglas / Policy ]---
Tabula Rasa jduge. I am loosely attached to the rules unless they have good warrants. Debate is socially constructed for the benefit of the students, and as such it should be up to the students to construct it however they want. NSDA rules work for me, but if debaters want to argue that a rule or structure is wrong then I'll follow along. I just need good arguments.
In the round, I put whether or not the debaters themselves are respected first. This means that competitors should attack the arguments and not the opponents. A light degree would result in lower speaker points, and egregious cases will be met with a vote down. If a round needs to be put on a hold because of an anxiety or a panic attack, I'll do whatever I can to accommodate - I just need some notification.
While I'm not technical about the rules (unless it is brought to the center of a debate), I am technical when it comes to the ideas and arguments within a round. In my ballots I'll try to point out exactly where I think weaknesses are in the case or arguments, but I won't vote on these unless they are either touched on in the debate or I'm forced at the end of the round to make connections because of a wash. I am open to any arguments as long as there are good warrants, links, and they don't actively degrade people. K's are great with a good link, but also I am perfectly willing to do whatever with the ballot if both competitors agree and it actively furthers education (Ex: Using the rest of the debate to talk about an issue that is affecting the real world). Run something fun that you care about it. Odds are I'll follow along with it and prefer that over something that is strictly strategic. Make debate a fun experience.
High Speaks - Respectful yet assertive debate. Compelling ideas and good argumentation will improve your position. 30 if I think that the round betters debate as an activity.
Low Speaks - Abusive arguments or showing a lack of care. Very low Speaks for being abusive to opponents.
---[ Public Forum ]---
I have a debate background, so I understand jargon and will judge off the flow. Good arguments and understanding what is being argued will lead to a win. Don't be afraid of running frameworks and resolutional analyses, because I will take them into consideration and they will make an impact.
---[ Extempt ]---
Questions should have a clear answer with convincing points. Timing to me is important, but usually not a deciding factor. I will weigh information density and quality over performance, but only margianally so (it can be a tie breaker). In person I will turn my laptop around so that the competitor can see the time and I don't need to worry about missing a time signal.
I competed for 4 years in speech and debate in Nebraska (I participated in Policy and PF primarily, with some Extemp). I am now the head debate coach at Washington High School in Sioux Falls, SD. I was primarily a K debater and have experience with performance affs, however, I adapted to traditional debate circuits in SD, so if you have a K you have been waiting to pull out, now is your time. Using K's as timesucks, however, is a huge pet peeve of mine. If you are running a K, I assume you care about the issue at hand and not just trying to be performative.
-I'm more than willing to listen to any argument you are willing to make, as long as it's done fairly. I love to see creativity in argument and believe that such types of thinking are fundamental to society, so if you want to run something a bit out there, I will hear you out. However, if it's clear that you are primarily using these types of arguments to confuse your opponent, I will automatically drop speaker points.
-I am okay with speed as long as you enunciate! I cannot stress this enough.
-I will be paying attention to what is said, but if there's something you think was said that is important to winning the round, I would mention it in a subsequent speech.
-If your opponents don't attack a point of yours, make sure you extend that in either summary or final focus (if not both) if you want me to consider it. In LD, it has to make it into your rebuttals.
- Weigh!!! As a former debater, I know how hard this can be to do well. Always remember that what makes sense to you and what you see as obvious may not be how others (including your judge) see things! Use your rebuttals and especially your final focus to really paint me a clear picture of why you won the round. I love voters. I'm typically a big picture thinker, so meta level questions and framing args are critical to instructing my ballot.
-Be polite to each other and have fun! Also, I have found I am very expressive in round, so if something does not make sense or I am confused, you will be able to tell. This usually means I need you to really sell me on the link story.
-IF YOU ARE GOING TO CALL FOR CARDS, KEEP SPEECHES GOING UNLESS YOU ARE USING PREP TIME. There is no reason we should be stopping rounds after just 1 constructive speech to wait for 5 cards. If you are waiting on evidence sharing, your partner can still read case while you wait. I don't mind short stops to glance at a card, however, I will dock speaks if I have to wait too long because you abuse time. Too many people are doing this, essentially creating a second untimed prep time for their team.
If you all have any specific questions this didn't cover or want any other additional information about my judging I encourage you to ask me before the round! :)
Email: mercado.angelicaarely@gmail.com
I am a fairly classic LD judge. I like to hear a strong value debate and well argued philosophic positions. For me, a criterion is an absolutely necessary component of a case and must provide either a weighing mechanism for the value or measuirng mechanism for acheiving the value. As a general rule I prefer empirical evidence, but will not prefer an argument with empirics over an analytical argument out of hand.
Debate to the event that you are in.
Public forum is not policy debate - you need to provide convincing facts, not just any facts.
a good way to do this, is to weigh impacts.
don't just assume that I know why you are bringing up points, tell me why they matter!
Debate experience:
I am a "parent judge" but a former debater. I debated policy in high school and another 4 years as a debater for USC (NDT). Was away from debate for about 15 years, but the over last 5 years, I've been frequently judging PF and LD rounds (with several TOC-bid tournaments the last couple of years for LD).
Feel free to add me to the email chain for evidence: ptapia217@gmail.com
Me Likey / Me No Likey:
LARP - 1
K's - 2
Phil / Theory - 3
Tricks - not unless it's Halloween
Speed:
I can handle a reasonable amount of speed. College debate is pretty fast. However, I dislike super blippy rebuttals full of analytics read from a doc. While I will probably flow most if not all of it, I'd prefer you to slow down a bit to articulate warrants of arguments you feel will be critical for you to win.
Kritiks:
I am reasonably familiar with most generics (setcol, cap, afropess) and a few postmodernist positions, but it might be safe to assume that I may not be as familiar with the literature base as you might be.
K Affs:
I have tended to vote close to 50/50 for and against K affs, so I tend to be fairly open-minded about these positions, but I am more persuaded when you can articulate a clear and compelling reason as to why you need my ballot. However, I also enjoy a good framework debate that's clearly contextualized for the aff (and the round) rather than something mechanically just read from premade blocks.
Speaker Points:
I tend to be reasonably generous and won't give anything below a 28.5 in a bid tournament. If I think you're strong enough to break, I won't give you less than a 29.5. I won't disclose speaker points, however.
Hello. I have been involved as a judge for speech and debate for the past 10 years. I debated in LD and Policy in high school and briefly participated in Parliamentary Procedure in college.
The debate round is your time to demonstrate argumentive and speech skills to convince me of your case. I will evaluate the round as I am told to, but I need the debaters to close for a specific way for me to evaluate the round. If I am not told how to judge the round, I will default as a policymaker judge and evaluate that way.
A few things to consider for arguments:
I am cool with procedural debate to an extent, but I need clear evidence that there was a violation and that there is a specific rule in the handbook that was violated for me to vote on it.
I will vote on T if Neg can prove case is not topical. On the flip side, Aff can totally run a non-topical case if they are really good at arguing through T. If Neg closes for T with an a priori voter and doesn't address the T first, I assume they don't believe in the argument and I'll throw it out of the round.
Aff should have a prima facia case (debate 101 with Paul Harens here). It drives me crazy when the 1AC completes the case without ever reading Inherency and everyone in the room ignores it like it didn't happen. I've voted on Gap Inherency so many times when it is proven in round to be the case.
Disads and CPs are the bread and butter of policy debate in my mind. Not every scenario should lead to extinction, but some do. Nuke war is just another hyperbole, but it lets us discuss the best way to address the harms presented by the case and weigh the solvency of case. If we go for a policymaker decision, please use impact calc to give me a clear reason to vote the round.
I don't live in the debate world. I am just a person that enjoys participating in the activity and watching students grow into great communicators. That said, I am probably out of the loop on the hottest lit for the K right now. I'll listen to it, but the theory and the narrative need to be consistent and clear for me to evaluate. If I get confused on how to interpret it, communication broke down and I am not wholly responsible.
I will vote presumption if Neg calls for it; however, I will need to be convinced that there is no net-solvency to pass plan to do so.
Couple other notes:
I still contribute to killing trees at tournaments, so don't assume that I'll have a laptop to take a copy of case and not flow the round.
Speed is cool with me to an extent. I probably have a tolerance of 6.5 on a scale 1-10. Look, I like some of that Sound Cloud mumble rap out there, but I don't really like mumble speed reading. Be fast, but be clear. I also like to stay organized, so please slow down on signposting and tagging so that I can keep with the debate on my flow.
It is okay to ask for post-round comments, but I will tell you if I feel like disclosing or not. If I tell you I am not going to, don't try to push for it. It won't work.
Style: The style of PF I did and like is classic Public Forum. This means I love DDR (ask your coaches or look him up if you don't know who he is). Therefore, please don't run Kritiks or any nonsense like that. Don't use debate lingo either. Treat me almost like a lay judge. PF should be suitable for anyone to participate in, judge and enjoy. Public Forum is created for the common citizen, so treat it as such. Treat PF like you are trying to convince your city council to enact or deny legislation. Teach me. Don't just tell me things. Actually inform me. If you don't and I don't understand something or have to make my own assumptions and I'm not 100% confident about them, you will lose the argument you are trying to make or it will be a wash.
Speed: I can handle speed, however, use it at your own risk. The faster you talk, the more likely I am to miss something. Therefore, say things multiple times throughout the round so you can be sure I write it down. And if you speak too fast and your opponents cannot understand you, you are speaking to fast. Do not spread simply to gain an advantage. If you do, your "advantage" will result in a significant dock in speaks and more than likely a loss in the round.
Evidence/Framework: Just because you give me a piece of evidence or framework, does NOT mean I have to weigh it in my decision. And just because you say something, does not mean that your opponents have to respond to it. If you say the sky is green and your opponents never respond to it causing you to say that because they dropped it, you win the point, you are mistaken. Remember, treat this like I'm on the city council. PF isn't a game where you can try to bypass logic and common principles to win. It's an actual debate. With this said, you should help me weigh evidence. I can do my own weighing and do not have to accept your weighing if it is glaringly offensive or nonsensical, but it's best to show (not tell) me why you think your point is more impactful.
Drops: Don't drop arguments. Some people have this idea that you can drop 3/4 of your case and act like nothing happened. You present your case in the first speech and your job is to essentially uphold that case the best that you can. If your case falls, you probably won't win the round. I also don't like when debaters say "we're not running that anymore so it doesn't matter." No. It does matter. You just dropped a point because your opponents refuted it and you realized that you weren't going to win the point. That can't and won't be swept under the rug as long as I'm judging. However, it's not as simple as whoever has the majority of their case at the end of the round wins, but holding up more of your case than your opponents gives you more points to potentially win you the round. I am not opposed to giving a win to a team with one point standing compared to a team with three if the one point has a really good impact and it outweighs the other three combined, but that's really hard to do.
Lying: I can sniff out a lie or a misrepresentation of evidence from a mile away. So, do not lie. It is a disservice to the debate community and to people in general. You are debating real topics that affect real people and many judges are probably going to come out of a tournament informed on something they weren't that familiar with. If you lie to them/tell them false evidence or misrepresent it, you are influencing their thoughts and possibly even decisions. So do NOT do it. If I or your opponents catch you purposefully lying or misrepresenting evidence, you will get docked speaks, the evidence/argument will be thrown out the window, and I will be watching you even more closely the next time I judge you. This means that if I or your opponents have suspicion and I think you could be lying, I will call for evidence and I expect the full evidence, not just the cut card. PF rules say you need the page(s) with evidence, the page before it, the page after it, the first page of the article, and the last (you can use the internet to access this). If you do not provide this to me and thus cannot prove that what you're saying is true, I will throw the evidence out.
Politeness: Please don't be rude. Be polite. If you're being snotty to your opponents, dominating cross, making accusations about your opponents instead of addressing their evidence/argument, you will get docked speaks and I will not be happy. I want to be happy.
Have Fun: Other than that, have fun! Debate is a difficult activity and can be stressful, but enjoy it! If you look like you're not having fun, then I won't have fun. And I want to have fun! So make me smile, make me laugh, make me enjoy the round. Also, I love analogies and funny, witty sayings so you might get extra speaks if you can use one effectively.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me. My paradigm may make me seem like a meanie, but I'm a really nice, easy-going guy. So don't be afraid to ask. I'm here to help you become better debaters and speakers. The world needs more of you and I want to help you be the most informed, well-spoken, polite little angels you can be. Much love :)