Bruins Classic 2021 NPDA Open
2021 — Online, CA/US
Debate Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideYou may know me previously as Caitlin Smith or Caitlin Addleman. She/her pronouns.
Experience:
I coached with the University of Minnesota (fall 2017 - 2022). I debated 4 years (2013-2017) of NPDA/NPTE parli for Wheaton College and 4 years of LD in high school. I have also coached policy at the UMN and LD at Apple Valley High School.
Ethics:
I care deeply about debate, about equity in it, access to it, and very much believe in the power it has to change lives. I take my role as an educator seriously, which means I am always happy to chat about or answer any questions related to debate, from theory to substantive arguments. Additionally, I consider the moral/ethical questions of debate to be a constitutive feature of the activity. As such, I refuse to check my status as a moral agent at the door. I will, and have (albeit rarely), voted down arguments that I consider to be seriously morally problematic, regardless of what’s on the flow. While my standard for doing so is high, I take as axiomatic that every person has intrinsic and immutable worth - if I feel that your advocacy or representations seriously impinge on the worth of someone in the room, that will affect my decision. This does not mean that I won’t vote for arguments I don’t like or ethically agree with (I do that all the time); rather, I simply will not hold myself to voting on the flow if I feel someone in the room is being done violence. If you have any questions about my standards or threshold, please ask me.
A Note on Tech:
I believe that the technical aspects of debate are tools we use to allow us to understand and engage with the substance of arguments more deeply. I therefore do not think that tech is a substitute for substantive engagement. I value more highly arguments that engage with the opposing positions substantively than ones that merely do so technically (while to do both is truly masterful debate). Put simply, substance > tech > truth.
Speed:
I’m fine with speed and will clear you if you pass my threshold (which is unlikely). Please be aware of how the online nature of debate constrains speed by paying attention to whatever chat feature we have available for people saying speed or clear - and please make accommodations as necessary. Please say all plans/CP’s/T-interps/alts/etc. slowly and twice.
Weighing:
Please do it. This will make my job a lot easier, and also make it a lot more likely that I see the round the way that you would like me to. I will evaluate the round as you tell me to, although in absence of any weighing arguments, I default to probability first and will have a substantially lower threshold than most parli judges to vote on systemic/materialized/highly probable impacts (given any arguments being made that I should prefer them). This does not mean I will not vote on nuclear, disaster, etc. scenarios, just that I will not accept prima facie an unwarranted claim that those impacts outweigh all other things if your opponents are making arguments to the contrary.
AD/DA/CP Debate:
I have broad knowledge of economic and policy issues (my knowledge skews more heavily towards the K). Thus, I will be largely limited to my understanding of what you put out in a given round. If you’re clear, there shouldn’t be a problem, just don’t expect me to know what various terms or abbreviations mean off the bat or grant you internal warrants without clear explanations.
Theory:
Win the debate on whatever layer you would like. My threshold to vote on theory is determined by the extent to which a clear impact on the shell is articulated and weighed. I also believe that standards should be contextualized to your opponents’ position. I find great problems in reading generic reasons why policy is good against non-T affs because I very much believe that theory should be about bringing questions of how debate ought function into the conversation, rather than forcing certain ideas out. This doesn’t mean don’t read theory in those situations, but that, if you’re going to, I will hold you to a high standard. Finally, I have a lower threshold than most parli judges for we-meets: if they meet the text of your interpretation, I do not consider a remaining violation to be a priori offense (as in, it’s still offense, but without an interpretation it does not function a priori, absent additional arguments that it should). If you have questions about what this means, let me know.
Kritiks:
I debated lots of K’s and write lots of them with my team. I love them. I particularly love when they are clear on what the alt does and what a world of the alternative looks like. I really hate chicken-and-egg style root cause debates and would much prefer to hear substantive debate about the issues in the K. Please don’t assume I know your literature (just because I read K’s doesn’t mean I will understand your K) . I will vote on what is said in the round, not my prior knowledge of your particular author.
Performance:
Debate is both a game and the real world. Bringing real world issues to the forefront within debate rounds is simultaneously extremely important and extremely difficult. It definitely creates change in our community and, as such, is something I take very seriously. I will attempt to evaluate every round as fairly as I can, while recognizing I do not check my status as a moral agent at the door. The one thing I like to be clear in these debates, therefore, is the role of the judge. I don’t mean that you have to include me in your movement, make me feel comfortable, or anything like that; I mean expecting me to evaluate what I’m supposed to do at the end of a debate round, with many moral issues on the table and no framework to deal with them, has the potential to give me a major panic attack. I don’t say this because I anticipate any such problem, but simply because it is a very real concern for my mental health and I want competitors to be aware.
Speaker Points:
26-30, unless you do something very rude or exclusionary.
I debated in college and became partial to the original ideas for CEDA (value debate). I have judged Parliamentary debate and Public Forum debate at the high school and collegiate level. This is my fourth year judging Parliamentary debate at Santa Rosa Junior College. I consider myself a “real-world” judge. I will only vote on dropped arguments if they are necessary and significant. If an argument is dropped, and it is irrelevant, then I am unlikely to be persuaded that this is a “voter” in and of itself. In awarding speaker points, I am very influenced by whether you are respectful toward one another. I don’t understand why one would be rude to a fellow competitor. Skill is revealed in the argumentation, not the attitude. I can tolerate speed as long as you enunciate and make your tag lines clear. I appreciate direct clash and refutation. In terms of the construction of arguments, I prefer a logical link structure, and I won’t make the leap for you; if the other side drops your argument, but your claim is untenable and is supported by weak links, I won’t vote for it. In my day, we called this “death on the flow” arguments. If you claim that a lack of recycling leads to nuclear war, I’m going to need you to help me make that connection: A LOT. I am not a fan of K. Unless you can convince me that your K really impacts out in the real world; I suggest making arguments against case.
I competed in high school (NDT) and college debate (CEDA). I have judged and coached for Parliamentary Debate. I am objective, although not entirely tabula rasa. I will vote on K and T arguments, and I do not allow my personal opinions to influence my understanding of the topic; however, I do insert myself regarding blatantly illogical statements, or purposefully fallacious reasoning. Debate is a reasoned activity which should sufficiently incorporate strategy, but it should not be "gamey" to the point of irrationality. I flow, understand, and organize well, which means that I will know where you are on the flow and what you are talking about without needing extra elaboration. In advance, thank you for taking your time to engage in this extremely important activity.
Hi, folx! I am fairly new to judging parli; however, I do have experience as a debater and have judged other speech and debate events. I did a year of LD in high school and three years of parli in college, at Texas Tech University. A couple of things:
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While I do not mind speed, I do hold the position that speed can be gamey and exclusionary. So just make sure your opponents are comfortable with it, and that I can actually flow you. If you go way too fast and I cannot flow you, only the things I am able to get on my flow will end up getting evaluated.
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On flowing: I am not the best at it, and so please make sure to signpost and read all plans, counter-plans, interps, advocacies, alternatives, permutations, and the like twice and slowly.
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I will vote on T if there is a clear violation and if the T is not properly responded to. However, I do not like overly complicated procedurals, so keep it very simple as they are not my forte (this does not mean you cannot read them).
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I love Ks. I think they can add a unique form of access and knowledge to the space. I was a K debater and can understand most basic K arguments (identity Ks, cap, rhet, etc) Please make sure all parts of your K are clear (a.k.a. what are you critiquing, how does your alt actually solve said critique - or not and why, what does the world look like post-alt, etc). Inclusivity is also very important to me, and so make sure you are actually including your opponent. Saying big words does not mean your argument is right, and if your opponent cannot understand you or the argument and points this out, I will probably vote you down.
- If you are going to read a k-aff please have a good justification for doing so and make it clear whether or not you are defending fiat.
- Always do some weighing or provide some clear way for which you would like the round analyzed.
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Overall, be polite and inclusive, create a safe space, and have a good time!
I was part of a National Championship team at the University of Kansas via Head Coach, Donn Parson...only a half of a century ago. I judge traditionally, evaluating factors of case logic, evidence, argumentation, organization, persuasion, and overall speaking acumen.
I strongly believe the evolution of "The K" (Kritik) is a cancer in college debate. It is against the rules, fundamentally unfair, and a cowardly approach to competition. In short, engage on the tournament's topic or don't waste my time.
Furthermore, "spreading"--the "art" solely for the purpose of becoming an auctioneer--is a worthless skill, contributing nothing to teaching students how to persuade others, nor has any relationship to any argumentation environment in the real world. I tolerate it and, as long as I can understand (via reasonable enunciation) what is being said, I do not vote against one who must "spread".
Rock Chalk!
As long as both teams are following local rules and remain fair, I do not have a preference. I will judge based on the arguments presented.
I am Kathryn Fulhorst, a retired Landscape Architect and Registered Consulting Arborist. I appreciate speakers who organize their delivery around a well-defined outline, similar to what might be done to write a paper for a college class. That means an emphasis on topic sentences and the following verbal paragraph to support the topic sentence. Speak slowly, keep hand gestures to a minimum, and vary the tone of your voice when emphasis is required. Never make up facts thinking I, or any other judge, won't know your subject. Good luck, and enjoy your debate.
My name is Miao, I am a new student judge, I have debated LD for two years. I hate to admit it but English is my second language, so I'm not good with speed, and spreading is a definite no. I look for strong logic and eloquence.
T is not my favorite, so please debate the topic, but if you think the other side has really violated your ground, go ahead and defend it.
Tell me to crx-apply, or extend, because I won't do that for you.
Hey there! Please feel free to ask me about my philosophy before round.
email: david.bo.hansen@gmail.com
Experience
Competitor
2 years - Community College NPDA/IE's
3 years - National Circuit NPDA/NPTE
Coach
2 years - Asian Parliamentary Debate/Public Forum
2 years - NPDA/NPTE
Some BP
My preferred pronouns are he/him/his.
Public Forum Notes
Do you have any strong predispositions for or against any particular arguments? If so, what?
I am open to any kind of argument as long as it is well warranted and reasoned. As a debater and coach, I have worked with all kinds of arguments and tend to think that debaters should read the arguments that they are the most personally compelled by.
What is your stance on student delivery? Should debaters be fast or slow?
I have no strong predisposition for or against speed. I just ask that all debaters are able to comprehend the debate round.
Do you call for evidence in debate rounds? What do you look for?
I call for evidence if there is a dispute on interpretation, but I tend to defer to debaters' interpretation.
What do you tend to think the most important questions in a debate are?
How should the judge decide who wins? Which arguments matter most? Why does my evidence support my claim? I find more specific arguments more persuasive.
I am not prejudiced strongly for or against kritikal arguments.
I tend to think providing a framework for the round is important.
Policy/Parli
General Notes
Specificity wins debates.
(Parli) Interpretations and advocacies should at least be read twice and slowly. Ideally you provide the judge(s) and competitors with a copy.
I tend to believe that the way we discuss the world has real impacts outside of the debate round.
If debaters are debating ethically, I tend to believe that framework arguments are more persuasive than the arguments against it. However, I will vote based on how the debate plays out. If you win that defending the topic is bad and you reject the topic, you will likely win the debate.
An argument without a warrant isn’t an argument.
I tend to believe that recording, sharing, and watching rounds is good for debate.
Theory and Framework
I love a great theory or framework shell. I am happy to vote here. I think a great shell isn't the right buzzwords, it's a specific articulation of how behavior implicates debate as a game.
Counter Plans
I’m uncertain about conditionality. I am sympathetic to arguments about the 2AC/MG being key and difficult. However, I also believe the negative should have some flexibility. The community goes back and forth on condo and I do too. Feel free to run your shell. Feel free to be conditional. I will vote depending on how condo plays out.
PIC’s are usually abusive in NPDA debate, but often strategic and occasionally justified – especially if the topic provides aff flex.
Delay is almost always bad, so are process CP’s.
Kritiks
These are fine. I read them a lot, and went for them occasionally. Please provide early thesis-level analysis. I think most K shells I’ve seen are incredibly inefficient and vulnerable to impact turns. Teams should likely cut major portions of their FW page and instead develop solvency and internal links to the case.
2A/MG’s should be more willing to go hard right (or left) to answer K’s. The aff probably links to Cap, but there is SUBSTANTIAL lit in favor of cap.
K/Critical affs
Can be amazing. However, they are easy to do inefficiently and hard to do well. An aff that is rejecting the motion needs to justify why: 1. Your thing matters more than the topic 2. Why you can’t discuss your thing on this topic OR 3. Why your thing is a prior question to the topic.
On the neg, you need to prove that you are an opportunity cost to the aff. Maybe it’s as simple as you need to keep debating, but you need a reason.
I did two years of circuit LD at Miramonte High School and graduated in 2015. I graduated from UC Berkeley in 2019 after doing four years of NPDA parliamentary debate.
I have no desire to impose my own views upon the debate round. In deciding the round, I will strive to be as objective as possible. Some people have noted that objectivity can be difficult, but this has never seemed like a reason that judges shouldn't strive to be objective. I, overwhelmingly, prefer that you debate in the style that you are most comfortable with and believe that you are best at. I would prefer a good K or util debate to a bad theory or framework debate anyday. That's the short version--here are some specifics if you're interested.
May 28th 2020 NFA-LD Update:
I'm new to NFA-LD LD so feel free to ask me questions. Most of the paradigm below applies, but here's some specific thoughts that could apply to NFA-LD.
1. Cards v. Spin: I tend to err that spin and analysis trump evidence quality in the abstract. Intuitively, a card is only as good as its extension. However, I will listen to framing arguments that indicate judges should prioritize debate's value as a research activity and prefer cards to spin.
GGI 2019 Parli-Specific Update:
While I will generally vote for any strategy, I would like to discuss my thoughts on some common debates. These thoughts constitute views about argument interaction that should not make a difference in most debates.
- K affs versus T: Assuming the best arguments are made, I err affirmative 60-40 in these debates (The best arguments are rarely made.) However, I tend to believe that impact turns constitute a suboptimal route to beating topicality. I differ from some judges because I believe that neg impact framing on T (procedural fairness first, debate as a question of process, not product) tends to beat aff impact framing. However, I err aff on the legitimacy of K affs because I'm skeptical of the neg's link to that framing. Does T uniquely ensure procedural fairness? Thus, to win my ballot, teams reading K affs must take care to respond to the neg's specific impact framing. They cannot merely read parallel arguments.
- Conditionality: I lean strongly that the negative gets 1 conditional advocacy. 2 is up for debate and three is pushing it. Objections to conditionality should be framed around the type of negative advocacies and the amount of aff flex. For example, perhaps 2 conditional advantage counterplans is permissible, but not 2 conditional PICs.
Past Paradigm:
Also:
- Absent weighing on any particular layer, I default to weighing based on strength of link.
- I probably won't cover everything so feel free to ask me questions.
- Taken from Ben Koh because this makes sense: "If I sit and you are the winner (that is, the other 2 judges voted for you), and would like to ask me extensive questions, I will ask that you let the other RFDs be given and then let the opponent leave before asking me more questions. I'm fine answering questions, but just to be fair the other people in the room should be allowed to leave."
Delivery and speaks:
- Fine with speed.
- I'm not the greatest at flowing, so try to be clear about where an argument was made.
- High speaks for good strategic choices and innovative arguments. I will say clear as much as necessary and I won't penalize speaks for clarity.
Frameworks:
- I default to being epistemically conservative, but will accept arguments for epistemic modesty if they are advanced and won.
- I am willing to support any framework given that it is won on the flow.
- I'm willing to vote for permissibility or presumption triggers. However, there must be some implicit or explicit defense of a truth-testing paradigm. The argument must also be clear the first time that it is read. If the argument is advanced for the first time in the 1AR and I think that it is new, I will allow new 2NR responses.
- Many framework debates are difficult to adjudicate because debaters fail to weigh between different metastandards on the framework debate. For example, if util meets actor-specificity better, but Kantianism is derived from a superior metaethic, is the actor-specificity argument or the metaethic more important?
Theory and T:
- I default to no RVI, drop the argument on most theory and drop the debater on T, competing interpretations, and fairness and education not being voters. Most of these defaults rarely matter because debaters make arguments.
- I don't think that competing interps means anything besides a risk of offense model for the adjudication of theory. That means, for example, that debaters need to justify why their opponent must have an explicit counter-interpretation in the first speech.
- I, paradigmatically, won't vote on 2AR theory.
- I'm willing to vote on metatheory. I probably err slightly in favor of the metatheory bad arguments such as infinite regress.
- I'm willing to vote on disclosure theory.
- Fine with frivolous theory.
Utilz:
- I default to believing in durable fiat.
- Debaters should work on pointing out missing internal links in most extinction scenarios.
- I default that perms are tests of competition and not advocacies.
- I probably err aff on issues of counter-plan competition.
- Err towards the view that uniqueness controls the direction of the link. However, I'm willing to accept arguments about why the link is more important.
- I will evaluate 1ar add-ons and 2nr counter-plans against these add-ons. This is irrelevant in most debates.
K's:
- There are many different kinds of kritikal argumentation so feel free to ask questions in round.
- I'm unsure whether I should default to role of the ballot arguments coming before ethical frameworks. I personally believe that ethical arguments engage important assumptions made by many ROB arguments. However, community consensus is that ROB's come first so I will usually stick with that assumption if no argument is made either way.
- I default to fairness impacts coming before theory, but I'm willing to evaluate arguments to the contrary.
- I don't have strong objections to non-topical positions. However, I believe debaters should probably engage in practices like disclosure that improve the theoretical legitimacy of their practices.
- Willing to vote on Kritikal RVI's/impact turns to theory.
- I'm willing to listen to arguments that there shouldn't be perms in method debates. However, I find these arguments not very persuasive.
Note for HS Parli:
Everything above applies. Except for the stuff about prep time. The only parli specific issue is that I will listen to theory arguments that it is permissible to split the block. Feel free to ask me any questions
I would prefer debaters talk slowly enough for me to understand their arguments.
I prefer debaters to talk slowly enough for me to understand the arguments. However, as long as I can understand via reasonable enunciation what is being said, I will not vote against someone who must spread.
You should know the rules for the respective form of debate you are participating in. Follow the rules.
1. No Spreading. If I can not understand you, I can not flow.
2. I like to see good clash, as well as the ability to refute and support your case.
3. Speak clearly.
4. Please maintain organization.
- I value clarity of speech and logic, and quality of ideas over quantity of words
- Please speak slowly and clearly enough for me to understand the arguments
- No extra credit will be rewarded for spreading