Shawnee Mission North Invitational
2019 — Mission, KS/US
Open Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show Hide· I am all about direct clash.
· I have been known to vote for just about anything when it’s done well, but I am old and not inclined to like the performance debate.
· Criticisms are okay, if they have clear links and some way out of the impacts.
· I am not a fan of the "debate is limited to the people in this room" argument. Either evidence matters and the debate extends beyond the round, or it doesn't and anything either team cares to say would seem to be fair game.
· I tend to vote on topicality when the impact debate is fully fleshed-out and the violation is clear.
· I will vote on theory arguments particularly when the impact on education or competitive equity is strong.
· Speed is okay, but if I can't understand card text, the evidence doesn't exist. Tag lines are irrelevant.
· If an argument doesn't make it into final rebuttals, I won't weigh it. I don't extend anything for you.
· I tend not to call for evidence after the round as I believe it is the debaters jobs to provide clarity regarding the meaning and key elements of evidence. Doing so, in my opinion tends to lead to me reconstructing the round and intervening.
· In the end, you need to explain why I should care about your arguments. Give me reason to vote for you.
· I tend to default in the direction of the story that appears to be most true.
Include me in the email chain: kaylabreitdoesdebate@gmail.com
First, my pronouns are she/her. Please do not call anyone "guys" in the room. I will dock your speaks every time it happens. I do not want to hear it in your speeches or in any conversation.
I debated for Olathe East for 3 years and last year debated at the DCI level. I also attended nationals my junior year for World Schools.
I do not believe in judge intervention and will never extend any arguments for any team. I will only evaluate what is said and what is extended.
I'll listen to anything.
I'm pretty cool with speed, I spread myself just make sure that you aren't just saying gibberish to sound like you know what you're doing. I'm just trying to flow.
Policy AFF's:
I'm fine with policy aff's, but I'm not a fan of nuke war impacts. I am a sucker for dehumanization impacts and framing. In the 2AR, I want a concise line by line. Go over impact calculus because I will not do it for you. If you bring up a new argument(s) in the 2AR without any justification your speaks will suffer, and trust me I will catch you, and I will not flow it. I hate utilitarianism framing because it's probably bad, but if Y'all really need to then sure but it better be good. If an advantage is problematic, drop it, you'll still have a chance to win. I love hearing turns on DA's and UQ overwhelms args, so make them.
NEG: I LOVE K's on policy aff's and will vote on it if done correctly. That being said I am limited in the literature. I am well read up on bio, cap, neolib, somewhat set col, and Nietzsche. If you want to go for the K in the 2NR then make sure that you do a line by line. I have to understand the link and the alt to be able to vote for it. I'll listen to CP's they're pretty chill. That includes delay CP's, PICS, and all of the above but Y'all have to prove why it's competitive. Condo/ uncondo/ dispositional, I do not really care because I understand that it's probably about the strategy, just make sure that you can defend yourself if they run theory on you. DA's are chill just make sure that you prove the link and that you do the impact calc yourself.
Kritikal AFF's:
I love love love love Kritikal AFF's. I don't believe that anyone has to defend the USFG. I am limited in lit, so please clarify with me before the round begins and ask! I need a clear ROB and FW, essentially just frame the debate round for me. I'll evaluate it any way that you want me to. Also, even though I love Kritikal Aff's I still want to see some sort of solvency mech. Debate is not meant to be a monologue, so you have to be able to prove why your affirmation is important and how it serves to resolve some sort of issue. If not, then be able to prove why your competing methodology is valid and why I should vote on it. Btw: I love perf con arguments and will vote on it
Topicality
I love going for T, but at the same time, you have to prove the impacts on your voters. I believe that aff's only have to be reasonably in the direction of the topic that is unless you are able to prove why there is in round abuse. If they fail to address T then I will vote for you. Other than that, T is pretty chill. I will vote on SPEC, because I love it lmao.
Framework
Framework is pretty lit but Y'all have to be able to defend it. I like hearing small schools DA and proof of in round abuse. I hate when people run FW with a K, especially a K that doesn't defends the State, it's antithetical.
Theory
Sure go for it.
I have been judging debate for two years.
I prefer to see arguments related to generic/specific disadvantages/advantages as opposed to topicality arguments, otherwise I do not much preference as to how the debaters construct their arguments.
I debated for 4 years in Kansas in the late 80s and early 90s.
I have been a head coach in high school for 19 years.
I can listen somewhat quickly…but not very fast. I’m a very traditional policy-maker.
Standard things:
I want really good explanation of all arguments. I try hard not to do analysis work for you. Overviews really help me!
Topicality- If the case is clearly non-topical, please run the argument and I’ll pull the trigger on it pretty quickly. If it is probably topical…I am very slow to pull that trigger.
Kritiks- Not really a fan. I am very policy-maker in this regard. If you choose to run a K, I will listen and try and understand it. However, the way my brain works in a debate context is that I will probably weigh the impacts of the K against the other team’s impacts…you know…like a policy maker would.
Counterplans – probably a good thing to have. Not a fan nit-picky word pics, but agent counterplans and others like it are a good thing for me..
Kritikal affs- Not a fan…they typically confuse me…
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Introduction
I'm an assistant coach for debate and forensics at Blue Valley North. As a theater and English teacher of nearly 20 years, interp. events are probably my strongest area. You should probably see me more as a community judge with some background in the event rather than someone that pays close attention. I'm more of a sponsor than a coach most weekends that just makes sure students get to their rooms. As of October 2023, I have only judged a couple rounds and have little contact with the topic research file.
Policy...
I know this isn's succinct and what advanced debaters are going to want to hear or debate to, but I hope the following helps.
1. I'm a theater and English Lit. teacher first. Don't just read at me. I think this is an oral communication event. Communicative issues and telling the story are still important. I'm not going to try to listen or flow speed. Honestly, I'm tired of people reading a powertag with a whole bunch of stuff they don't really understand or not linking it to the round we're in. I'll jump on the email chain/speechdrop, but I'd rather be listening to your rather than reading highlighted text.
2. I'd like to think that I'd listen to just about anything in the room and be willing to vote on it, but I'm probably a policy maker who prefers reasonable and probable impacts over magnitude. I haven't had a lot of Ks to consider or vote on so I'm not sure how I feel about them philosophically. I'm not a games player that will vote a team down for missing one minor arg. on T in the 1AR. I don't like ridiculous spreading args. from the neg. that then kicks everything that doesn't stick. I'd rather have a couple speeches debating the merits of an argument and find some depth than shell out ten things that don't matter.
3. I'm good with judge instructions. Explain to me why I should be voting a certain way. I'm not going to be reading every sentence of your evidence and make the arguments for you. I'm also not an expert in the event that will know every piece of the game y'all do.
4. If you open the abuse story in the round, you better not be doing it elsewhere. I think new in the 2 is typically slimy if off case, but I'm primarily talking anything running a ton of T you plan to kick in the 2NR, turning CX into a speech, stalling finding a timer and prep time, fiddling with the file share, et al. If you waste time on an abuse story when you could have used that time to debate this issue, or your opponent points out you were just as or more abusive in the round, I'll vote you down for wasting our time discussing it. Debate the topic.
Congress
I've scored a few rounds in Kansas invitationals over the years. Probably 5-10 rounds. I've used Congress as a model for various classroom activities and projects in my English and Speech classes and worked with students here and there on some speeches. I enjoy an efficient and respectful chamber with obvious connections and clash between speeches to show active listening. Yes, speeches will be prepared with credible evidence and relevant sourcing, but there should be clear sections responding to the debate in the room. Strong POs will be considered in ranking. As a theater director for 10 years, I'm used to watching the entire stage. You are always "on" in a session. A congressperson who is listening, engaging, efficient, and respectful will be rewarded over one who is simply domineering.
LD - I've judged these rounds here and there and at the national tournament, but it has been awhile. Be sure to take care of the value and VC debate as that is the framework that lets me know how to vote in the round. Evidence to show how real world examples have worked are great, but don't forget the values work. This is why I like this style of debate. We aren't focused primarily on the policy but the ideas and values. If you keep that in mind and can explain it for a theater/English teacher that prefers a communicative style, you'll have a better chance at the ballot.
PFD - Well, this is something I haven't seen a lot of, so I'd encourage you to look at the other comments regarding LD and Policy and cross apply to this event. Haven't coached it. Only seen a few rounds of it.
I debated at Olathe Northwest and am a Senior at KU (not debating). Fourth year assistant coach at Olathe West. My email is matt.michie97@gmail.com
Top-Level: Racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia, etc. are unacceptable. Use content warnings before starting speeches and put them in speech docs when applicable. Being mean to your partner is an extremely easy way to lose ranks/quals.
Speed: I think debates are better for everyone when you slow down for tags/cites/theory. Other than that, speak at whatever speed you like while still retaining clarity. Speeding into an incomprehensible slurry in the text of the card will at best dock your speaker points and at worst severely cost you on the flow; I am not going to just flow your speech doc's tags, I am going to flow what you say. I will say clear if necessary. *This is ESPECIALLY true in a virtual debate. If you are reading at the same speed you would in-person, you will be incomprehensible.
Everything below are just my preferences. I don't really care what arguments you read, as long as they're good.
Topicality: I default to Competing Interpretations. I think teams should be topical. If your aff isn't topical, you should tell me why your aff is better for debate than a topical one, rather than why topicality is bad. You should be as specific as possible about your offense, on both sides. Don't bother with your impact turns.
General Theory: I have no particular leaning one way or the other on most theory args, except that conditionality is good. That doesn't mean don't read condo bad if you want to, you just can't read and barely extend your block shell and expect me to have any interest in voting on it. Your argument should make a broader statement on debate rather than a specific objection to something in-round.
Disadvantages and Impact Turns: The link debate is probably more important than anything else in a DA. I mostly read/went for disadvantages/impact turns in High School, so this kind of debate is what I am most versed in.
Counterplans: I don't necessarily have a problem with any particular type of counterplan, but Aff teams should probably be reading a lot more CP theory than I usually see. I wish I saw more teams make more perms than just "do both," and I especially wish more teams actually utilized their perms effectively past the block.
Kritiks: Don't assume that I'm familiar with all terms of art/authors. I think “reject the aff” or “do nothing” alternatives are not very compelling but that doesn’t mean I won’t vote for one. I feel like most K debates I see are incredibly weak on the Alt debate on both sides. Links of omission are not links. Evidence here matters immensely. I feel like teams take each other's K cards at face-value way too often. A lot of these cards on both sides of any K are total gibberish, you should be pointing that out to me.
Framework: I generally don't like extremely generic/limiting framework interps. I default to believing the Aff's role is to endorse an inherent resolution-based advocacy that solves for significant harms, and the Negative's role is to dispute the Aff on the basis of any of those terms, or by expressing the significant harms of the Aff. I feel like many of my decisions end up coming down to the fact that teams let each other get away with way too much here. Framework is not an opportunity for you to read your cool interp block your squad wrote 7 years ago and call it a day. Your framework lays the foundation for how I'm supposed to evaluate the round. Don't let the other team do that for you.
Assistant Speech and Debate Coach for 11 years.
POLICY:
Please put me on the email chain: mark.skoglund AT gmail.com.
Overall: Tab, default policymaker and policy impact work is generally the most predictable path to my ballot. Tech over truth for the most part though there’s a line somewhere. I often take speech docs to check clipping but I try to not use speech docs for the decision unless there’s no other option. In general I am not a fan of embedded clash; do the work in the round.
Racist/sexist/transphobic/homophobic/ableist rhetoric will lose my ballot.
I will not vote on disclosure theory. I believe that enforcing disclosure with the ballot ends up favoring schools with resources against those without, rather than enforcing any sort of equal playing field. I also will not evaluate “which school has more resources” so I avoid voting on this argument entirely.
Speed: Fine with me, though I don’t judge as much as I used to so help me out on tags. Also if you speed through your theory block at the same rate as card text it’s not likely all going to end up on my flow.
Topicality: Default competing interps. I don’t think I have a particularly high threshold for T, though teams often do one of two things that are bad ideas:
1. Read a “precision bad” block against a “precision good” block and assume embedded clash.
2. Not focusing enough on which interp has better access to the standard and spending all the time on which standard is best.
Other Theory: I’m not likely to vote on blippy theory; do work if you want to win my ballot. Your strategy should not be to read 8 two-line theory arguments hoping the other team drops one.
Disads: I don't care if they're generic, but specific links assist in probability calculus.
Counterplans: If you’re not running a CP you’re probably making a strategic mistake with me. I lean Aff on delay CPs bad and to a lesser extent on consults bad, but I won’t do the work for you of course. I will not judge kick CPs unless clearly told to consider it by a team with justification, and the other team loses the debate re: the legitimacy of judge-kicking.
Kritiks: I’m fine with Ks, though you’ll be far more familiar with the lit base than I am, so help me out. In particular, if you’re going for the alt and I don’t understand what it is well enough, I can’t vote for it. “Reject the aff” is generally a weak alt unless it’s a discourse K or otherwise uniquely justified, but it wins often enough anyway.
Discourse/Reps Ks sidenote: I vote for discourse Ks fairly often when a team has said something exclusionary and do believe there is value in rejecting teams to correct that action in future. That said, there’s plenty of debate that can be had in this area.
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Congressional Debate -
Experience: I have been coaching this event since 2007. My primary experience is with NSDA.
-Bigotry of any kind is not tolerated.
-Early foundational speeches can be just as important as later responsive speeches.
-When possible, direct clash is important. A late speech on legislation that does not cite/respond to anyone else is almost never very strong.
-When responding to/citing others, try to make it productive. An offhand mention just to prove you're following the debate is fine but doesn't do much to advance the debate forward; work in a response or distinguish someone else's point.
-If you are retreading ground someone else covered, you should clearly distinguish your analysis. Simply repeating past claims indicates someone is either not tracking the debate or is not well-researched and is penalized.
-Crystallization speeches are good when done well but you need to be adding value, typically at the impact weighing/framework level.
-Extending questioning periods is almost never productive (certainly not as productive as the speech we may have been able to have) and if the same competitor is repeatedly making that motion, the ranks may reflect that.
-Being a good, professional, and organized presiding officer is rewarded.
-I believe it is critically important for judges to consider whether a criticism would apply equally regardless of gender. For one obvious example, women are often penalized for the same focused aggression that men are rewarded for. The primary way to combat this is judges being conscious of implicit bias, and I try to ensure that I am fairly applying criticism.