Hawk Talker Invitational
2023 — Olathe, KS/US
Saturday Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideHello! My name is Allie Ellsworth (she/her), and if you are reading this, I am probably going to be judging you in a debate round. I am currently a fourth year debater at Olathe Northwest and I have judged for several tournaments in the past years. Here are a few of my judging preferences:
Talking speed: Do. Not. Talk. Monotone. Give me some inflection. Use the tone of your voice to show me what parts of your speech I should care about. For novices, I don't think spreading is going to be a problem. But generally, talk at a medium/fast speed.
CX: Be nice during CX!! Do not get aggressive, do not be rude to your opponent. Please let each other finish, or be polite about moving on to the next questions. You don't have to be mean to prove your point!
I'm going to be judging you on your speaking as well as the arguments being made. I will most likely join your speechdrop/email chain to look at your speech structure as well.
she/her/hers
yes i want to be on the email chain->aryanadb8@gmail.com
former debater / current coach for OE
run what you like to run lole
everything is debatable to me hence lack of concrete debate opinions in this paradigm. i feel like debate has turned into debaters changing their entire strat to adhere to the arguments that the judge wants to hear which leads to boring and stale debates in the long run. i want y'all to have fun and be creative! (->as long as everyone feels safe and comfy in round and in the overall debate space ofc)
only three things i ask for the rounds i judge
1.) be clear pls!! clarity>speed!
2.) good args>lots of args if the two need to be mutually exclusive. i will defer from what i said earlier in paradigm for a sec: i am probably not the judge to go twenty off in front of. better debates have fleshed out and evolved args on each page instead of throwing a billion different arguments at the wall in the 1nc and seeing what sticks.
3.) be nice please! everyone is here at ungodly hours on a weekend. everyone is tired and hungry. being passive aggressive (or being actively aggressive lmao) during a round is so lame! having a massive ego and thinking you're better than everyone else at a tournament is so lame! if there is an actual reason you can't be cordial to your opponents in round then that is something to say to your judge, your coach or the tournament director.
Flay parent judge- adapt accordingly (don't spread)
Did forensics in high school
WSU '09
I majored in communication and taught public speaking for 5 years at the college level so good presentation and good etiquette is important to my ballot
I know the basis of a lot of policy oriented arguments on the circuit- but full explanation is key as always
DA's: great
CP's:great
on case: v v important
if you can't tell, my varsity debater child helped write this paradigm.
K's: I probably haven't read your literature but am up for the ideas behind kritiks. If it is necessary for a K to be ran in round it's in your best interest to run something easily digestible for an average parent judge with a lot of explanation on the link and what the alt does
Lansing High School '24
Tufts University '28
I primarily competed in policy, LD, and extemp in high school, and I had exposure to each event.
Perform how you are most comfortable, and I'll adapt.
PUT ME ON THE EMAIL CHAIN: owenwcrouch@gmail.com
Owen W. Crouch
He/Him
former debater at Olathe East
Tell me a dad joke before the round to let me know you read my paradigm :)
I Like Theory and Policy. I can handle a simpler K like Cap or Imperialism. I can handle speed but I prefer a more traditional debate style.
My biggest thing is that you need to be explaining arguments. You need to tell me why I need to vote on a given point. Especially on your voters for T, the framework for Ks, Impact calc, Etc. Tell me why I Care.
If I get to tell you who won right after the round, I invite you to ask questions about my decisions, respectfully disagree and tell me I'm a fool, and/or schedule an appointment to catch these hands.
As long as federalism DAs are not run, we will be okay.
Debate
Hi! I am super excited to be your judge regardless of the event and hope this paradigm is easy to read, you will find my email below. If you have any questions you may email me but please make the intent of the email clear in the subject line.
SMW 24'
Washburn University NFA LD- current
- I can do speed,I flow and I know how to evaluate a flow,depth > breath,tech > truth
run pretty much whatever you want
in case of email chain: ofonzy28@gmail.com
How I evaluate a round
- I have debated 4 years in policy from traditional debate to open because I was not comfortable with theory. I now debate in Varsity at Washburn Univerity and have become more comfortable with theory (This may or may not change what you read in front of me.
- 1) Impact- Your impact and how it is framed can be a make or break in the round so it should always be evaluated FOR me I tend to vote on who tells me how to vote, it makes me feel pretty icky coming out of a round having to form opinions for myself because that is not my job.
- 2) I really care about the warrants of the evidence you read- I will not be swayed by crappy evidence but that is not for me to point out- that is for the opposing team to do.
- 3) I would much rather you debate comfortably AND well rather than trying to fit what I like in debate so run whatever you want.
- 4) Please slow down on your analytics especially if the analytics are not in the doc so I can be sure I miss nothing.
- 5) I do not tolerate any harm in debate (racism, homophobia, xenophobia, sexism, ableism, etc.)
- 6)Debate is a game (arguably) so please, there's no need to be rude or belligerent and it will hurt your speaks if you choose to do so.
General Thoughts on Args
T
- I love T when it is used properly
- T is typically a voter
- If T is in your 2NR it should be by itself
Ks
- I like Ks:)
- I am not super into K lit but I do know a lot of K'so if something is explained well enough then you are fine running it in front of me
- Run whatever but know what you are reading
CPs
- I do like pics and agent cps- I do recognize the potential for abuse so if the abuse args are not answered properly the cp prob won't be weighed.
DAs
- have an internal link PLEASE, if aff can prove no link to me then the DA is not weighed
Forensics
- I am a 3-time state qualifier and state champion in poetry+ 3-time state qualifier + national qualifier in POI, I have done literally ever event possible so just do your best and I'll give you some good feedback!
Email: gabrielgelsheimer@gmail.com
Hello welcome to my paradigm! First let me explain my experience to give you insight on how I will judge this round. I'm currently a NDT debater for Missouri State, I did policy debate in high school for two years. I did youth court for 5 years and have over 300 community service hours. I was also the mock trial team team captain. I did forensics debate my freshman year and senior year. I loved congress debate, and world schools was pretty cool. Below is what I'll be focusing on.
- Debating harms, actual on case is what I would love to focus, make sure your link story makes sense, write my ballot for me
- My background screams CX, I love it, it simplifies the debate, and where people can shine, lead people down a trap and sting them in their next speech, strong CX questions is a big focus for me
- If you cant spread then don’t try. Mumbling really fast isn’t debating. With that said I don’t mind judging a spreding debate at all just make sure your clear when you speak. If one team is lay and the other spreads the spreading team has to conform to the lay team, otherwise the dynamic would be crazy.
- I lean tech over truth. If you tell me the sky is red and the other team drops its, the sky is red.
All and all best of luck to you all during this debate and please be respectful towards each other
ONW debate 2020 - 2022 -> KU Debate 2022 - Current
She/They
T/L: I am good with any argument. Just don't be problematic and/or rude
K Teams: On the affirmative we run a K aff and I have ran a soft left aff in the past, on the negative I primary run set col but am familiar with other Ks. Fw is pretty important and explaining the role of the ballot / role of the judge. Its good to explain why your model of debate is better than the one they are proposing.
Policy teams: I am not that familiar with pics, you can still run them but I will be learning during the round. If the purpose of aff / neg isn't laid out I default to "Does the aff make the world better than the squo?". I don't usually vote for condo unless there is clear in round abuse and its the majority of the 2ar. If there are dropped args you don't have to take a long time extending them, just 10 quick seconds to say something like "they dropped x... conceded, flows to us" and if it matters for other arguments go more into that then.
Don't be mean to your partner, good luck <3
Hello, my name is Denise Hiracheta a former 4-year debater at Olathe East Sr. High School. This is my second official year judging. I have competed in Novice, JV, Open, and KDC. I also competed in Congress at local, state, and national as well.
Policy:
Novice: The thing I look for in a novice debate is not just a person reading off of their computer but someone who is invested in the debate. I will not accept any rude, racist, or derogatory behavior from any debater. If you do show any of this type of derogatory behavior it will affect your ballet negatively. Now let's move on to the content of the debate...
Inherency: What I expect out of an inherency card is not only just to state that your case is related to the status quo but to have it as the basis of your arguments. Starting your case with a minor argument makes the debate harder to keep track of. Inherency is one of the most underestimated cards in the debate and should be taken more seriously.
Plan: If you don't have a clear plan it will be hard to debate negative arguments. If the plan in context is poorly worded having an entire debate just on the wording of the plan will take away from all the impact and DA arguments. (PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO READ YOUR PLAN IF YOU HAVE NOT READ A PLAN THERE IS NO POINT IN THE DEBATE)
Topicality: If you are going to run topicality make sure that it makes sense. If you run topicality on a case that relates to the resolution the affirmative team will have the upper hand. I don't mind a good topicality debate, as long as it makes sense and has valid arguments to go along with it.
CP: If you are going to run a counter plan make sure to have your arguments in order from - how the affirmative team is wrong to how your plan solves the affirmative teams better. I love counter-plan debates and will always consider the arguments in each. When it comes to perms explain to me why you are perming. Prove to me that both the federal government and the opposition plan can work together.
Forensics:
I competed in OO, INFO, Impromtu, and congress
What I look for in any piece is to number one have a strong presentation. It does not have to be perfect because I know sometimes it just happens but if you show me that you know your piece and that you made an effort to convey the information then that right there is what matters. The second thing I look for is the overall communication. That simply means, getting my reaction. Did you make me interested in the piece? Did you get a strong reaction out of me? Those kinda things. When it comes to the overall piece selection it would be nice to get a trigger warning before you get started because I would like to be warned if I am going to hear a piece about something dark at like 8 am. I will try to put in as much feedback as possible on the ballot some might be on paper but the majority would be online just because you have access to it faster than that of a paper ballot. If you have any questions or concerns I would be more than happy to answer them before and or after the round.
Overall:
The debate around should go smoothly and steadily with no interruptions unless it is urgent or a technological issue. I will try and give as much feedback as possible on the ballot but if you would like more feedback please feel free to talk to me after the round is over for a more one on one response.
Don't forget to have fun!!!
Good Luck Debaters!!!
He/Him
Assistant debate coach for Lawrence Free State (LFS), current KU student. Graduated from LFS in '22, debated all four years (fast debate sophomore year, KDC junior/senior). I don't debate in college.
Put me on the email chain: theezrajoseph@gmail.com
For debaters primarily competing in DCI/faster styles: your best bet is treating me as a flay judge. You can try spreading if you want to, but there is no guarantee that I will keep up/catch everything, especially if I'm flowing on paper. Obviously, that's on a spectrum, and you can be quicker than conversational if you want to be, but I almost certainly will not pick up analytics you're speeding through at 100%. I would love to say, "Go for whatever you're comfortable going for," but unfortunately for both of us, I went for disads/counterplans, so that's what I'm the most comfortable listening to. Again, you can try your critical affirmative/kritik in front of me, and I will do my best to adjudicate, but you're just increasing your likelihood of getting an RFD that you're unhappy with/doesn't make sense to you.
For debaters primarily competing in KDC/JV/novice: this is the style of debate I spent more time with, both competitively and from a judging standpoint. So, do whatever you're used to/comfortable with and I'll be fine. Things that will make me happy include using your flow, line-by-line debate, and impact calc + judge instruction in the 2NR/2AR.
General miscellaneous: full claims require a claim, warrant, and impact. Dropped arguments are true arguments. I will be flowing, and if I'm really on top of it and not running on fumes, timing prep as well.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Quinn Largent pronouns: They/Them/she/her (dont screw up pronouns for people its a 1 time freebie before im dropping you but theory can be read at any point)
Debate history: Olathe East Debate 2020-2023 KCKCC 2024 - present talk to me about KCK debate we have great scholarships.
Email: largentquinn@gmail.com
Email me questions, please. (paradigm last updated 12/10/24)
EXTED YOUR ARGUMENTS PROPERLY ive sat in too many debates where im voting on presumption at this point because aff simply are just extending the Internal link and expecting me to understand why thats bad like yes Econ collapse is prolly bad but you need to tell me why its bad and please extend your arguments properly this means anytime you make a claim IE Econ is stable now you need to be asking yourself why IE Econ is stable now since we are seeing inflation go down steadily past months. the only way ill vote on an internal link is if both teams agree that the internal link is agreed IE Innovation is a good thing if both teams agree its a good thing even if it doesnt have an actual impact ill vote on who resolves the internal link the best.
DONT TRY SHAKE MY HAND PLS I FEEL SO BAD SAYING NO
Trad LD,PFD,Congress,IEs paradigms all below
TLDR: Tech > Truth. I'll adapt to you.
post-rounding is chill you deserve to question my decision while I reserve the right to make one and I am glad to answer any questions you have. (seriously if you think I just dropped the ball lmk)
Read ur rehighlighting dont just insert it this is a communication event.
Novice debate:just be nice to each other debate how you please and I will give verbal decision and feedback feel free to ask as many questions as you want about the round or debate generally I will always answer to the best of my ability
All debates are performances. how you perform is up to you.
Args that I will not vote for becuase i beleive they are morally wrong and don't deserve a spot in debate: any ist and phobic good arg OBVI, Israel good, Inequality good, any theory relating to ones appearance or clothing. (updating as I see more i wont punish you if its not on this list but will add) I will literally vote on anything else. Break every rule u want just defend it and win.
I want debate to be a safe space but I KNOW it's not. so I will vote on out-of-round issues. (prefer proof being had because im pretty convinced by the other team just going you can't prove it)
Look i love debate and this community of speech and debate just because i may not enjoy how you debate doesn't mean i wont put all my effort into judging it when i can tell the competitors love it because i know what its like to have judges that hate the style you love so they don't try to judge it. i will do everything in my power to not be one of those judges. like its your debate not mine who cares what I think
All thoughts below are pretty much meaningless rather then showing you some unconcous biases I may bring coming into the round but ive voted against them pretty often so far.
Specifics for adapting in the round:
----- Logistics/Presentation -----
Call me whatever I don’t care.
Put me on the email chain or whatever ur using.
I will also auto-vote for the other team if they ask for accommodations for their disability and you don’t listen to them. That is messed up and shouldn’t be rewarded. I have a 1 strike policy if it's an honest mistake and the other team doesn't notice. but they can run theory at any mistake
Speed is fine go as fast as you want ill clear u if I need to --- I do flow on paper tho Im stubborn and refuse to move to a computer so pen time is cool this means not having 70000 different anayltics in 2 second I can't flow that fast.
I have gotten more annoyed over time about open CX the longer ive been in debate. its Fine for a couple questions but I dont like it when it just feels like one person is awnsering every question. the lines arbitrary but we all kinda know what I mean. (this will only hurt speaks not the round)
----- Plan AFFs -----
just explain why what arguments you are winning mean you win the round.
I will vote on presumption (or other defensive stock issues)
vagueness Is a real arg. plan texts shouldn't just be the res. if we are going to pretend to be policy makers lets make a policy.
By the end of the round i should be able to tell you what the aff does and how it solves the impacts if i cant i wont vote aff.
For soft left affs --- you should have a small adv that everyone knows is true and a bad thing and then a massive framing page it will make your life 10 times easier
LD affs: if you defend res --- you better have fire link debate or should focus on I/L stuff imo --- less generic your advs don't really change how easy it is to get a link just makes case debate outside the impact level harder --- if you read Plan text everything above applies.
----- K AFFs -----
K aff vs FW: K affs are good for debate. the aff should be using the aff to do some sort of turn against fw.--- i think a lot of aff and neg teams don't do enough turns case analysis against both sides. doing that will make my ballot a lot less frustrating.
how negs should go for FW: just dont have a generic FW make it contextual to the round or the aff. less generic the better
KvK: more spec the link the better. im not just looking at the method im looking for how the link implicates the aff and what it means for the method. I dont fully understand no perm arguments in these rounds but hey if your winning on the flow due to concessions pop off.
explain the jargon and then use the jargon in the round. Dont just use jargon for the sake of jargon.
Teams should be doing very heavy method explanation in front of me. presumption ballots look really good when the aff can't actually defend the method in cross or can't give a consistent explanation. explain what ur method looks like out of round in round or wherever ur method would take place.
Neg teams reads counterplans and DAs there normally are pretty good against some k affs. and often underutilized especially in LD.
LD K affs: a lot of y'all affirm the resolution through K lit this is fire --- I think these affs should have a top level theory that answers everything DAs/CPs etc. if you affirm the res then critique the state if they are the actors in the res you might be screwed because you will definitely link back 95% of the time. Negs against this shouldn't change their off Strats if they affirm the res they will link so go for it. I do think K v K is a really underrated option against these affs because they still affirm the res their k lit prolly links back. Link back args are super underused and underrated.
----- T -----
EXTNED YOUR INTERP OR YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE. LIKE EXTEND IT EXPLICITY
I have experience reading and going for T pretty consistently
You dont need a defenition for T just an interpertation. You dont need it because the interp is the model of debate you have chosen. You need a defenition for predicability and precison tho. this would also open u up to ur interp being unpredictable and impossible to prep.
case list makes your life easier. but isnt neccasary. TVA on how affs can still solve their impacts a topical way is always appreciated
i default to competing interps. but ive started to understand reasonability to be a viable option when paired with why debating the specific T the neg running is impossible.
----- CPs -----
Condo: I'll vote if u win it. this does not mean I have a preference for less or more advocacys run none run 30 I do not care. win the debate is all that matters.
Treat perm do the CP like a t debate when defining words meaning you get this perm why is that good just reading two different definitions without comparison means nothing to me and forces judge intervention prolly for the neg since the aff presented the arg in the first place.
Neg: have a net benefit. with good explanation on how you are mutually exclusive --- either perm links to da or just how the CP and aff can't work together.
Don't just shoot perms at me IE don't just go perm do both. say perm do both --- (insert explanation on how this works)
Judge kick: if you want me to. say it and have a warrant (needs to start in the block at the latest so we can actually have a debate on it) if you don't want it say why it's bad and have a warrant. I default to not judge kicking
theory: im good for all types of counterplans consult delay etc. but im just as good for theory saying why these are bad. ill vote for it all. most theory prolly ends up at the level of just reject the argument but can easily be reject the team just make warrants. Ive ran and won on delay and consult cps. I've also won on theory for why these are bad.
----- DAs -----
NEG: do whatever you want. dont just spew random econ theory at me tho i have no clue what most of that means. Spec link > Generic links. if link is generic i need contextualzation in the block please. do case turns anyasis thats alwasys cool.
Politics DA: most ptx DAs are missing actual ev saying anything. Have good U ev that says PC high low now or wtv or that trump wins now or something like that. have the link actually say the X thing causes PC to die or biden to lose. like I don't need it super spec if the other team concedes it but ill be very convinced by the aff just going this is to broad to possibly Link to us paired with a thumper that would fit the broad link and yeah its hard to come back from that.
There is such thing as zero risk of a DA. This can be mitigated by framing arguments about what parts of the DA control other parts of it.
------ Ks -----
More teams should be making link back arguments to supercharge Condo IMO.
The FW page shapes the rest of the debate It shifts how I view the round please explain how either you fall under the FW and how you operate on FW
I am decently well versed in K literature. this shouldn't shift how you debate in front of me just cause I know what you are trying to say doesnt mean you are saying it.
Link: after doing K debate for a while good K teams will devolpe more links in the block based off the actions taken and said by the affirmative and start to frame this as independent reject teams/links because they cause the impact of the K within debate. generic link is fine if explained i defenitly prefer links that are more specfic but generics dont upset me. and anyatic links are good and real links if explained well enough like i may not have a card on it but if someone calls something "idiotic" that can easily be explained as a link for a disability K
Impact: should be explained in how it implicates the aff.
ALT: for me to vote neg on the alt i need a couple things the first is how it solves the impacts of the K. second is why it competes. things i love but arent needed: why it solves the aff. and how it works in the implication of the round or what it looks like in the post fiat world of the neg.
You dont gotta have an alt for me to vote neg just have a link and impact and good root cause work creates a pretty easy presumption ballot. link can also be used offensilvey like a DA
If the blocks makes it clear you haven’t thought about how your theory relates to the topic, or it becomes apparent you don’t know your theory at all, your speaks will probably reflect it poorly.
K FW: extend your interp otherwise you dont have you a FW. Ur fw should have an offensive reason for me to prefer it. FW can be used to get links to the K
LD paradigm
------ Prog LD -----
Look at policy stuff.
Tricks: tech > truth when I began debate I thought these were bad and hated them. now i realize teams should just win the debate against them on 1 of two levels.
Theory: they shouldn't be in debate and why
Debate them: why the theory is untrue bad etc.
------ Trad LD -----
i think in trad round V/VC matters a decent amount obvi as it decides literally what impacts i care about everything is filtered through that so to win the round do a lot about how ur impacts fit under the V/VC so i dont have to judge intervene about which impacts mean what in context of the value if i have to do that i will be sad and speaks will be affected :(
Defenitions also are cool what do certain words mean in the context of the round and how do they shift how i vote in the round i alwasy love LD teams that can do this.
PFD paradigm
just debate ill flow and ill vote on offense. i don't really see how this is much different then policy minus a few things. Tech>truth ill vote on anything
Look i love debate and this community of speech and debate just because i may not enjoy this event doesn't mean i wont put all my effort into judging it when i can tell the competitors love this event because i know what its like to have judges that hate the event you love so they don't try to judge that event. i will do everything in my power to not be one of those judges.
Congress paradigm
I understand there are people who like this event. Im not one of them. if I'm ur judge in the back of the room ill do my best to match ur effort into the round if you make a mockery of congress :) ill join you when I'm writing of the ballot if you take it serious ill do it
how ill elavulate speeches. is 3 sections the first is ur content how good is ur facts and what ur saying second is your analysis of the debate this means responding to past people who have spoke or how well you can predict future points made against you. and finally style this can be funny jokes passionate speaking etc.
Now to hop off my soapbox. go cook and have fun because lets be honest if your reading my paradigm and scrolled to find it you are probably winning :)
IE paradigm
------ Extemp -----
I did this event ig. use evidence and expand on that ev to develop a cool point. more recent the ev the better if you know ur ev is old try to explain to me why it should still be applicable to ur question.
Funny jokes are good don't just bore me for 7 minutes with just facts.
tie ur intro back into the piece throughout all of it.
------ Prose/Poetry -----
GIVE A TW I wont leave the room but it allows spectators and me to prepare myself
This event now allows movement so use it. you should have fluid story and characters I can differentiate.
use your book like its a prop use that fact and make it look cool
------ DI-----
GIVE A TW I wont leave the room but it allows spectators to and it allows me to prepare myself
Ive seen some really good DIs and when they are good I love this event when bad I hate it.
characters should all be able to be seen apart.
check your object permanence if you have a cane you cant randomly drop it and suddenly be holding something else and just magically have a cane later on again.
have a good climax change your emotion occasionally I get its dramatic but its not all 10 minutes of just sad there should be happy moments or different types of sadness that gets portrayed throughout the piece
------ HI-----
Amount of HIs I've laughed at: 3 (4 if we count pity laugh) this doesnt mean I dont find it funny I just dont audibly laugh often,
i think a major problem in HI is that it focuses almost to much on the technical ability of the acting rather then if it is actually funny like yes the techinal matter of how well we can tell the difference between characters and how great the blocking is. but if youre piece isn't funny whats the point. you can make it funny so do it. THE MOST CRINGE PIECES CAN BE FUNNY IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING.
like if you make me laugh your prolly placing high for me.
object permance still matters (check DI for example of what i mean)
how understanding of your story is great still.
having extrandionory blocking ability is always a plus and can even lead to being funny.
OHHHH adding this after forgetting. DONT JUST LIVE IN 1 MANIC QUICK ACTION EPISODE. there should be a multitude of emotions anger happiness sadness ETC. i get its supposed to be funny but you have calm moments the funny moments BECOME SO MUCH MORE FUNNY.
------ POI-----
GIVE A TW I wont leave the room but it allows spectators to and it allows me to prepare myself
What i want from a poi is 3 things 1. to be informed about whatever topic 2. great blocking and use of the book.
3. a fluid story.
if you do all of these things imma love your POI and i love poi as an event.
Object permance is great (check di for example)
TBH combine just about every section i have wrote and combine it.
------ INFO-----
GIVE A TW I wont leave the room but it allows spectators to and it allows me to prepare myself
props props props. Cool ones and fun uses of the rules it allows will be amazing like that's what makes this event unique lets use it and kill it.
i judge an info using 2 main factors. 1. is how well am i informed about your topic. 2. am i also entertained during it. this can be done through cool props or just a very interesting topic and passionate speaking.
Obvi don't have a call to action but having why your piece is more important then it may seem is amazing or having something about how your topic effects the real world is always cool.
------ OO-----
GIVE A TW I wont leave the room but it allows spectators to and it allows me to prepare myself
judge this through 3 things 1. is how well am i informed 2. am i entertained and 3. how likely i am to engage in your call to action.
i love seeing OOs about how their topic relates to our community or whats around us.
Updated January 2023.
Yes I want to see your docs, so include me on the email chain (if you’re using one and not just doing speechdrop which is easier IMO). savannahlegler@gmail.com
I flow on my laptop on an excel sheet so there will be significant typing
My pronouns are they/them
Policy paradigm
I recommend reading this whole thing but I know it's long so TLDR; DO NOT SPREAD I will not flow it, likes Ks and K affs but you should understand the lit and IMO they can be abusive if you're just trying to confuse the other team, prefs specific (not generic) DAs, weird CPs can be abusive, T is meh (mostly because people don't run it right), other theory is ok. Framework debates will be prioritized over my personal preferences mostly. I don’t tolerate harassment/abuse of any kind, have warranted args, don’t clip cards, flow every speech in the round. Ethics philosopher cares about ethics so be ethical please. If you need to stop the round because of mental or physical health reasons, just tell me, I've been there
Background
I did policy all four years of high school at Olathe Northwest and have coached there for two years. I am a philosophy and psychology major at KU with a minor in women, gender, and sexuality studies. My favored branches of philosophy are ethics, political, and metaphysics and I’m specializing in abnormal psychology. I am familiar with a lot of theory as a result of my majors and experience, but I do have trouble remembering exact details like authors. I catch on quickly to new theoretical arguments and I thoroughly enjoy k debate. I’m not very familiar with the older style of debate (plan planks and contentions).
Truth informs tech. I’m not going to be voting on warrantless arguments or blatant untruths, that’s an abusive way to try and win the round and I think judge intervention is necessary. I think this applies most frequently to theory blocks, since a lot of times there isn’t an established internal link between the structural harms you’re citing (eg. neg block side skew) and the proposed solution (eg. aff sets framework). If you establish that internal link, it should be fine. My logic here is that you wouldn’t expect me to vote on a DA without an internal link, so why would you do that with theory? Additionally, I’m a strong believer that technical nonresponses to unreasonable arguments don’t outweigh winning substantive arguments and, because debate is about clash and education and discussion, I will always prefer to see discussion of important topics rather than arguments that are just there as distractions.
Overall, explain the things you’re saying because I’m not going to vote on an argument you don’t actually make (but I also won’t vote on warrantless args).
I think the idea that debate is a game and the goal is to win is extremely harmful. Just trying to dump cards on your opponent to make them slip up and not respond to something is slimy, same with running stuff and banking on the fact that the other team just won't understand what you're arguing. You're not helping yourself get better at analysis and argumentation by avoiding clash to win on technicalities and misunderstandings. I view debate as a space to have conversations and expand knowledge bases, a place for high schoolers to engage in political philosophy, and that requires everyone understanding what's going on and everyone operating fairly. Winning is nice, but unethical strategy in the name of winning is a major problem in debate. If this comes up as a meta argument in round, know I will not buy your debate as a game good theory, I simply won't budge on this one area.
Evidence
Don’t clip. It’s pretty simple to say “cut the card there” and send out a marked copy once your speech is done (I recommend spamming tab on your laptop to mark where you stopped because it can be easily done mid speech and makes sure your marked doc is correct and sent in a timely manner after your speech). I realize that, especially since I’m asking you not to spread, that you’re going to need to cut things off, but just take the two seconds to make me aware of it so I don’t have to get you disqualified for clipping (I really don’t want to have to do that). If your evidence is fraudulent or altered in any way, I will probably find out, and it will cost you the round and maybe the tournament, and I’ll chat with your coach about it. Just don’t do it, there’s plenty of evidence out there and it’s unethical to be making your own.
Aff burden
Aff has the burden to relate to the resolution, but this doesn’t exclude k affs. Obviously, the easiest way to do this is to do a policy aff, but that’s not always what people go with. Relating to the res in an abstract way is valid if you can explain that. Be prepared to defend why your approach is best for debate and why your take on the resolution is necessary. If the debate ends and I’m unclear what an aff ballot means, I’ll vote neg on presumption.
Neg burden
A neg ballot is usually whatever you pull through to the 2NR. If you want to argue judge kick for a CP to also have the squo as an option, you’re going to have to do some theory lifting in order to get me there because I lean toward multiple worlds existing on the neg ballot being inherently abusive. Explain why it’s not. K alts and CPs are functionally the same to me, the difference is in the complexity, so just make sure your alt and what it means for the ballot is clear. If you're running a k with no alt you're gonna have to explain why you don't need one.
Speaking
Do not spread. I will not flow your arguments if I cannot understand them. I have an auditory processing disorder. You don't need to spread to win. I get that you may find it annoying, but you need to be able to adapt to judge preferences and this is what I’m asking of you. I’m asking for speech docs for accessibility and to monitor for clipping, not to fill in gaps on my flow. You have to make connections and read off the args for them to get on there.
Keep track of what you read and what you don’t read and where you’re marking cards. Sending impossibly long speech docs (like whole camp files) that you know are more than you can read is bad practice. Essentially, trying to trick your opponent/the judge into believing you read a card you didn’t read is extremely unethical and over the line where I start to find ways to vote against you. Explicitly falsely claiming to have read a card in a previous speech is a round loss. You should be flowing your own speeches to avoid this happening.
Argument choices
You need to be running full arguments in your speeches. Starting a DA or T in one speech and saving the impact/voters for the block is abusive and not having those things at all means that you've wasted your own time because I can't vote on that argument. DAs need uniqueness, a link, and an impact (sometimes and an internal link). T needs an interpretation, violation, standards, and voters.
I love kritiks. This is probably not surprising as a philosophy major, and I do a lot of theory in my classes (I don’t just take major related classes so I’m familiar with economic oriented theory as well). I probably won’t have read exactly what you’re reading, but I’m familiar with a wide range of concepts and am comfortable with my ability to understand complicated arguments. The stuff I’m most familiar with is queer theory, biopower, settler colonialism, afro-pessimism, feminism, and anything relating to ethics. However, this is not a freebee to just run something because you think it'll confuse the other team. Philosophical discussions go both ways and I'm going to like your K a lot more if you're being diplomatic and helping the other team get your point so they can actually respond. In K debates you should be focusing on having a productive, fair philosophical debate with your opponent and that gets really muddled when all anyone cares about is the W. A fair warning about Ks, I will probably understand your lit better than you do, 9 times out of 10 this is the case, and this means I will notice if you don't understand the argument you're running, so best to run Ks you're comfortable with and not just something you pulled from open ev just for this round.
I will vote on topicality, but I think running it when you know an aff is topical is tacky (in a roll my eyes kind of way not a vote you down kind of way). However, I get that sometimes you don’t have anything else to run because you’re not a k team. Reasonability to me is more about there being multiple acceptable interpretations of a word, so if you’re not meeting any definition in the round, you’re probably not reasonably topical. I’m less lenient to obscure policy affs than to k affs on t and that’s a personal preference that you should be aware of (this is based on how useful I think each are to debate; the former not at all and the latter extremely). I’m probably not going to buy into t isn’t apriori to my decision but if you think you can convince me, go for it by all means. You don’t need 5 minutes of t in the 2NR for it to be convincing, but sometimes you need that five minutes to cover everything that’s happened on the t flow, so play it by ear. I don’t really enjoy t debates, they get really reductive a lot of times because it devolves into semantics for semantics' sake. I know some people are really into them, but I personally think there’s more important discussions to be had and throwaway t args are a waste of time. However, recall that I will vote on t because it is important.
DAs and CPs aren’t super interesting unless you have something that’s not generic. You can win on them, like everything, but I find big stick, low probability impacts dull and they’re one of my least favorite parts of debate. Politics DAs need to be updated to be relevant and even then, they’re a lot of speculation and fear mongering so be careful how you’re arguing. CPs are a whole can of worms and can easily be annoying to judge and abusive to the aff. PICs are iffy for me since the aff isn’t just coming up with the best possible plan, it’s the best possible plan and fitting in the resolution, but if you can argue theory for them then, as with most things, be my guest.
I prefer structural impacts because big stick impacts feel like sensationalized news headlines IMO, but it's not a hard preference in any way.
Theory is fun but needs to be clear and have internal links, as stated above. I don’t really have much more to say than don’t use theory as a time waster because it usually means it’s argued poorly, doesn’t apply, and makes you look bad.
A lot of people assume they’re winning every flow, but you’re probably not, so I recommend using the “even if” layering of argumentation in rebuttals to have flows interact with each other. Best to not assume you’re winning and built contingencies into your speeches for me.
Flowing
You should be flowing, even if it’s from the speech doc for accessibility reasons (another reason why marked copies are important, I did this all the time). If you respond to arguments that weren’t presented, your speaks will suffer for it, and obviously, not responding to a core argument because you weren’t flowing could cost you the round.
Apparently, y’all have decided prewritten overviews are the new hip thing. It doesn’t sound like a great idea to me, mostly because overviews should be short summaries of what you’re extending in the speech in the context of the current round (exception to this is aff case extensions, go ahead and prewrite those to your heart’s content). Every round shakes out different, so you should be adapting your extensions to what’s going on in front of the judge. Line by lines are very nice but I recognize they require a lot of organization. It’s usually better to go through each individual argument rather than doing each flow as an argument, since a lot of detail can be lost. Prewritten overviews that aren’t for unaddressed, pure extensions will be affecting your speaks.
Misc
I’m not going to tolerate any harassment, abuse, insulting, or exclusion in rounds (this is for extreme cases, which do happen, unfortunately). As someone who has experienced those things and been frustrated by judge apathy in the name of intervention philosophy, the debate space has to be accessible and equitable for everyone who is participating and that is the most a priori thing in a round. If someone is having a breakdown or is uncomfortable in ways I can’t visibly recognize, let me know and we can take a break. Your mental health and sense of belonging in the debate space is the most important thing to me and I won’t let other people compromise that for you. I will not tolerate violent, bigoted rhetoric being used in round. I’ve had people say I shouldn’t be allowed to participate in debate, to vote, or to make my own decisions because of aspects of my identity and I will absolutely not allow you to make these arguments. I am hard zero tolerance about this. You do not have the right to make the debate space unsafe.
Disclosure should be reciprocal in order to be ethical. If you wiki mined the aff’s case, you should disclose negative positions. In rounds where there’s a disagreement about disclosure, it’s unlikely to be the topic of my RFD, but I will probably have some criticism if there’s clear unfairness. Hold yourselves accountable for ethical practices.
The only time I will reject a team instead of an argument is on abuse/harassment/exclusion.
Current Head Forensics, Assistant Debate Coach at Olathe North High School in Kansas, Previously Head Coach at Lansing 2018-2024 (mixed style debate 5A school), and Buhler High School 2015-2018 (traditional-style debate 4A school). I judge rounds regularly, and have for the last 15+ years.
I did not debate in High School or College but DID participate in Forensics @ the high school level at Eudora High and at the collegiate level at Northwest Missouri State University.
Interp / PA: I don't think you should change you performance based on your audience, HOWEVER, I have lived experience that makes it REALLY hard to stay with you if you mention harm to children. It will go better for both of us if you have a content warning for me. I do not need you to tell me anything explicit, I wont need to excuse myself from the round, but if I know its there its easier to listen to you and give you feedback.
General Debate Things
Speed - clarity is important, I'm more on the slow end of fast debate. Add me to the email chain and put your analytics in the docs and I can usually keep up ok. If you don't add your analytics to the doc, and I miss them on my flow that becomes a problem for you. lamaranell@olatheschools.org
FYI: I have a degree in Biology, this is included b/c my threshold for answering crap science args is low. I'm not gonna do the work for the opponent but they wont need to do much. Also bad logic hurts your ethos.
Debater Behavior: there is no good reason for any debater behavior that causes exclusion in the space. Debate should be a polite exchange. FROM MY DEBATE SYLLABUS: "As debaters we often implement multiple varieties of viewpoints and voices in order to make an argument. What is not acceptable at any point includes slurs or attacks intended to degrade others on the basis of gender, race, sexual preference, sexual identity; this list may not include all possibilities. We attack arguments, not people, in debate." I remove travel privileges from my teams engaging in this behavior, and if it happens in the scope of the round I am judging the offending team will receive the loss AND have a sportsmanship grievance to contend with.
Arguments vs Delivery:I will judge the round based on the division it is in. If we are at a KDC flagged event and you are spreading my threshold for an abuse argument is gonna be in the basement.
In Policy Rounds -
I am pretty Tabula Rasa but default to a flow policymaker with a high regard for stock issues if no one tells me how/why to vote.
Kritiks: I enjoy them but you have to make sure it makes actual sense, If you cant make sure your opponent understands the K its not productive to the round, to you, or to anyone. You also need to explain the logic of the K for me to vote on it. (TLDR- don't be lazy and I will weigh it)
I love a good T debate :) - IMPORTANT EXCLUSION - Ablest T arguments are NOT acceptable and will be voted down - Example: if your T argument is premised off of a typo in the AFF teams document (could be due to an intellectual disability) rather than what the words of the actual resolution are.
In LD Rounds -
Value and Value Criterion are not just buzzwords, they are central to the LD form of debate, if you read them just to move on to your policy framework that isn't the point. I realize this makes me a traditionalist.
In PFD Rounds -
PFD is not Policy. There should not be a plan text. This was intended to be whole-res debate.
Make sure you give me framework in the 1st speech, Judge instruction is key.
I prefer speech drop. My email filter is likely to screen out unfamiliar email addresses.
TLDR: I am a former high school debater and practicing attorney. While I am a detailed flow, my pen-speed is unlikely to be able to keep up with national circuit top-tier speed. If you debate at that speed, I ask that you slow down to about a five on a ten-point speed scale. Apart from novice rounds, you'll benefit from treating me as a fast f/lay judge or slowest flow judge. Aff, you'll probably want to read your lay aff. Neg, you'll probably want to limit off-case positions. If I can't hear the argument, I won't flow it, even if it’s on the speech doc. Some debaters tend to ignore this request and spread at uncomfortable levels for me. I encourage you not to do so.
Overall, I tend to assess the round as a test of policy. In other words, my default position is that stock issues matter (unless you convince me they shouldn't). Clash = good; analysis = good; impact calculus = critical. I also want to see detailed 2NR and 2AR judge instruction--write my ballot for me. See immediately below for a summary of my other default convictions, reduced to sometimes false binaries, followed by additional detail.
Top speed |------X---| Conversational
Argument quantity |-------X--| Argument quality
Tech |---X------| Truth (but see K stuff below)
Kritik |------X--| Policy
Condo |----X-----| Unconditionality
Topicality: Unless Aff wins a model debate (see K, below), I believe Aff must present a prima facie case that represents the resolution in 1AC. I'll vote on T--readily--but neg must win the battle on definition/interp. Note that I tend to view T as a prima facie obligation. Aff, you should know that this means I tend to view it as a priori/jurisdictional, so if Neg wins the battle on violation, I'm likely not to care a ton about a debate on current voter claims like limits, fairness, etc. I WILL listen to the Aff's assertions that T "isn't a thing," but that isn't my core belief and Aff has an uphill battle to convince me otherwise.
Counterplans. I'm not a fan a slew of blippy 1 card "counterplans" or Aff reciting a bunch of blurby perms in 2AC. If Aff reads an undeveloped CP, or neg just reads a string of "Perm Do Both. Perm Do the CP then P." etc., I'm not likely to give a lot of weight to the argument. I also value a real debate on net-benefit (or mutual exclusivity--remember that?); Neg must explain this to me in detail.
Kritik. My favorite rounds to judge don't include any K position; I prefer clash on policy issues over attacks at the level of worldview or rhetoric, but its your round, and I understand that some teams want to debate the K. So I'll hear you out (provided you really explain the lit), but I need to hear a clear and compelling Alt. and K advocates must thoroughly explain, and win on, role-of-the-judge/rule-of-the-ballot. I'm also closest to a truth-over-tech judge in the K space, meaning plausibility matters most to me when evaluating these arguments. I disfavor K Affs; my default view is it is the affirmative's job to represent the resolution. If that's what you want to read, I'll do my best to evaluate it, but if you have a back-up policy aff, now would be the time to read it.
Tech stuff: If the debate descends into a tech fight, or you're going for a trick, then you're going to have to slow way down and explain why I should vote for you. I also tend to be a dinosaur on "offense and defense" nuances. For example, I believe neg can win on defense alone, so if your arguments descend into "no offense, they lose" claims, I may not fully follow you and you may be disappointed in the ballot. Explanation and analysis > jargon and "gotcha."
Share the documents w/ me: adamcruzperrone@gmail.com
Do your own thing.
Tech > Truth.
Give me good voters.
The aff has the burden of proof unless you convince me otherwise.
Speed is fine.
I judge more on policy than stock.
I like a good debate so don't spread your opp out of the round, that is not the goal.
Speed- moderate is good. If I put down my pen (yes, I am old school that way) you are going too fast. I am old(er) and my hearing isn't what it used to be.
Road maps are important, tell me where you are going and where I should be putting your arguments.
I debated in high school and have judge many rounds since so this isn't my first rodeo.
Paradigm for Anish Srivastava:
Email chains acceptable, anishsrivastavaks@gmail.com
Relevant Background:
Debate at ON from 2016-2020 (I did DCI like twice and hated it, KDC forever)
Forensics at ON from 2016-2020 (Congress [nationals breaks], IX/DX [nationals], IMP2 [state])
For the Negative:
Topicality is not a real thing. Running it in an invitational is nearly a guaranteed loss. Running T in Regionals/State is more acceptable but it MUST be carried to the 2NR. If it isn't it is a loss.
Because of how much I hate Topicality I tend to accept more generic links for DA's
For Both teams:
I am a mix between Stock Issues and Tabula Rasa (mostly because I haven't done this in years).
Notes:
Ask me anything, I am an open book while judging
I have run 1K (Cap I think) one time, If you run a K I don't know what alts, agents, SetCol is.
I haven't done debate in years, so I can't catch your spreading. If I can't hear it I won't flow it.
I have been an assistant coach for around 12 years.
I do not value any one type of argument over another or automatically discount any type of argument. Anything is game.
That said, topicality should be reserved for when it's blatant or should only be pursued by teams who have a history of arguing it well. (In other words, I've seen a lot of bad attempts at topicality.)
Make sure you are listening to the other side and actually addressing what they are saying. Teams often don't read everything in their doc and nothing drives me crazy like a team arguing against evidence that wasn't read.
I do value good communication. I can't give you credit for an argument that I can't understand. That said, I am okay with speed as long as it is still enunciated well.