RCC T4
2023 — Chicago, IL/US
Novice Judges Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideMorgan Bard (she/her)
2ac/1nc , 4th year at Niles North, morgan.debate4@gmail.com (add to email chain!!)
any form of homophobia, racism, sexism, ableism, etc. results in an automatic L and an email to your coach. if anything you're gonna read has the possibility of being triggering, pls ask the opposing team if they're comfortable with that arg.
tech>>>truth -- ex. the sky is green; as long as you give me good evidence proving the sky is green, ill vote on it.
Quality over quantity of arguments, what this means is i'd prefer fewer better in depth arguments rather than 10 bad arguments that don't enhance the debate round, especially for novi debates.
time your own speeches
t-- love love love. but if you're reading it in the 2NR it should be the ONLY arg in the 2NR. overall one of my fav args.
da's-- amazing as long as you read them correctly and don't drop any part of it.
cp's-- basically the same as da's but you really need to go ham on why it's better than the affs plan.
impact turns-- LOVE THESE!! go all out on turns
k's-- def not my fav arg but that won't affect my vote. just do it well and we'll be good
framework and roll the ballot-- YES-- how should i look at the round! TELL ME how I should vote and why!
if you have any questions at all ask during round or email!!
good luck y'all <3
kailey --- she/they
tech>truth
--------speaks--------
---be respectful to your PARTNER, OPPONENTS, ME, COACHES, and importantly: YOURSELF.
---do line by line and signpost when you're moving from argument to argument
---make funny jokes about: alex burkman, raman mazhankou, saad khan, or will sterbenc
--------don't do these things--------
---stealing prep [preparing for speeches without running prep time]
---any of the isms: racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, yk all the phobias. that's ground for me giving you the lowest speaks i can, auto L + emailing your coach
--------the actual debate--------
T/L
---roadmaps: give them! "i am just going to respond to what my opponents said" is not a real order.
---i will vote on things that are straightup not true if they are warranted out correctly/dropped
AFF
---i am a 2a with an extremely high aff elo- MY RECORD DOESNT LOOK LIKE IT BUT I AM A GOOD JUDGE FOR THE AFF!
---k affs shouldn't be read by novices. if you read one in front of me, you better entertain me, because i will be sad
NEG
---please condense in the 2NR.....go for one thing!!!
---topicality: i love these debates...as for this topic, i think courts affs prob arent t and i think that deficit spending is
---counterplans: judge kick if you tell me to, i <3 cheaty process cps, i normally go like 9 off in my own debates but i'm also p good for condo on the aff
---kritiks: i'm bad for these esp like less techy stuff (only go for like...the cap k in front of me)
---disads: underrated asf. econ da is cracked on this topic
---impact turns: mwah but no death good in my rounds please
FOR NOVICE STATES: IF YOU DO NOT SEND ANALYTICS IN THE 1NC/2AC, SPEAKS ARE CAPPED AT 28.5. Not sending in the block or 1AR is fine.
please add: kaylanfdebate@gmail.com
direct all questions and complaints to WayneTang@aol.com
Non-Negotiables:
add me to the email chain or I WILL dock your speaks to 27.1
Kritikal affirmatives will NOT be read in my round--you may NOT express your identity, EVER!
If I ever catch you stealing even a PICOSECOND of prep time, I WILL talk to your coaches and remove you from the tournament. Stealing prep counts as the time is takes to bring your computer to the podium, sending the documents, time it takes for the document to travel through the internet and land in my inbox, and time it takes for my to open the document, download it, and send it to the rest of my team. If you need to use the restroom, I will take prep time. You should have gone before.
Capitalism is GOOD. I will NOT be convinced otherwise. If you even ATTEMPT to spew that PINKO COMMIE LIBERAL GARBAGE I will contact tabroom and remove you under suspicion of espionage.
How I Judge/Prefs:
Pref me a 1 for every kind of debate (I am extrimeley smartt:)
I was born in the royal house of the Riad and therefore have been surrounded by the wonderful works of critical authors such as Wayne Tang, Brian Roche, Cole Weese, Jack Hightower, ZIDAO WANG (ZIDAO ZIDAO ZIDAO ZIDAO), and Trufnananv.
I am very wealthy (as a result of my genius) and have no time to listen to the grievances of debaters who think economic "inequality" (if everyone would just work hard, they would obviously succeed). If all were up to me, I would prefer debate centers around discussions of how to maintain corporate profits (reverse redistribution would be a prime example). But if you must, I will listen to discussions of economic "inequality". My decision will involve a rating of the socioeconomic setting your school is in (the richer the better, of course) and your ability to explain the benefits of capitalism and the unvaiability of nationalization of the means of production. I will also give a decision based on evidence not introduced into the round and arguments I have written down on flows of the past round I have debated in (possibly from my extremely successful novice year under the Criminal Justice topic (I won our impact calc tournament after school)).
Reasonability is possibly the greatest argument ever created (aside from cap good). I am an extremely reasonable person (my notes above reflect this) and generally agree that if the Affirmative defends the word "fiscal", or "money" they are Topical.
After the round I will ask for a document of all pieces of relevant evidence that will influence my decision. I will permit debaters to add evidence not read in the round that helps their position (especially if it is cap good) and I will thoroughly read through it come to myown conclusions based on said evidence (typically will be that cap is good). If I see the words "CNN", "MSNBC", "The Guardian", "New York Times", or another information source that clearly fabricates lies on a daily basis in a speech document with your school's name on it (regardless of if you read said evidence in the round) I will immediately vote you down and report you to tabroom.
I am especially fond of T-Reverse Federalism versus Dispositionality Turns T debates.
I think Topicality debates that boil down to standards about standard deviations are my favorite to judge.
I am extremely intelligent and am able to adjudicate any kind of debate. My favorite debate is AFF CP vs NEG DA, with the CP being the complex 50 states CP and the DA being the Supreme Court Political Capital Tradeoff DA and the Federalism DA.
Speaker Points:
I determine speaker points based on your outside knowledge of real world happenings. This includes your score on a 50 question MCQ about the principles our President Donald Trump stands for that you have 49 minutes to complete, a random number generator from 1-30, the number of letters in your last name, your ability to use Euler's Theorem to calculate the area of a oblate spheroid to then find the size of the apothem of a three dimensional pentagon, and your ability to explain an auxillary theorem in a minimum of 300 words. This all must be done during your final rebuttal or your speaker points will be capped at 27.
As a genius, I have many thoughts from previous topics I feel are relevant and should be archived in more grand settings, but as the Library of Congress has denied my petition, I submit these thoughts to you as the following:
NATO Topic:
I determine speaker points based on your outside knowledge of real world happenings. This includes your score on a 50 question MCQ about all articles of the North Atlantic Treaty that you have 49 minutes to complete, a random number generator from 1-30, the number of letters in your last name, your ability to use Euler's Theorem to calculate the area of a oblate spheroid to then find the size of the apothem of a three dimensional pentagon, and your ability to explain an auxillary theorem in a minimum of 300 words. This all must be done during your final rebuttal or your speaker points will be capped at 27.
Pursuant to Article 21 of the North Atlantic Treety (novices, it would behove you to memorize the text of every treaty of NATO as that will be very relevant for your speaker points), I will quickly give a decision based on evidence not introduced into the round and arguments I have written down on flows of the past round I have debated in (possibly from the Criminal Justice topic).
Reasonability is possibly the greatest argument ever created (aside from cap good). I am an extremely reasonable person (my notes above reflect this) and generally agree that if the Affirmative defends the word "Cybersecurity", "Artificial Intelligence", or "Biotechonology" they are Topical.
ella---she/her
email chain: sophiaflores0709@gmail.com
please time your own speeches & prep <3
be kind to one another! this is supposed to be fun!
Solorio Academy HS ‘23 --> UIUC '27
She/Her - Prefer if you didn't address me as "judge"
Put me on the email chain: nicholegarcia2023@gmail.com
Tech > Truth
More policy-oriented than anything. That doesn’t mean I’m not willing to vote on anything else. Feel free to run whatever is your style.
Top Level Tingz
- I have glanced over the high school topic very briefly so assume I know nothing about the specifics of your aff/other arguments
- I'm not doing the work for you. Write my ballot, explain dropped arguments and what that means for the round, explain the warrants for your arguments
- I’m a bit more generous with speaks. Most teams get 28-29. This is decided by how you sound (Confidence!!), quality of arguments, and overall behavior in the round
- Trust that I am competent enough to understand what went on in the round overall – Don’t post round me
- I prefer if you time yourself (if you can’t, let me know), stand up during speeches, face the judge(s), FLOW!
- Not very expressive – my resting face looks a little angry (don’t let it make you nervous)
- Absolutely will not tolerate any sort of racism, sexism, ableism, etc
- This includes putting the other team down and attacking them as people rather than their arguments
Brief Background: I debated 4 years at Solorio, competing in both UDL and nat circuit tournaments. I mostly stuck to a strict policy strategy as the 2N but hit a lot of K teams so I have a decent amount of exposure to both traditional policy and K. I went to debate camp at Dartmouth and was taught to debate by the Conor Cameron and Victoria Yonter (<3). Not currently debating for UIUC.
Case Turns – LOVE. Pretty much down with any case turn. Keep consistent and extend it throughout the debate along with your warrants.
DA’s – DA ground has looked a bit iffy :( --> I have a pretty good understanding of the more common DA's but don't expect me to fill in the argument for you. Tell me the story of the DA, explain how the Aff specifically links, and make your impact clear. Impact calc and Impact comparison are super important!
CP’s – The more sketchy the CP the more I’ll dislike (also not a huge fan of multi-plank CP's) but if you’re winning the CP I’ll vote on it. Make it clear how the CP solves the NB, and what the CP does. The CP has to be a reason to reject the Aff. Answer the Perm.
K’s – I don’t love K’s but I am willing to vote on it. I have a decent understanding of K’s but I hold the neg to a high expectation in terms of explanation of the K. If you plan to go for the K explain all of it. I expect explanations for how the K functions, what the role of the ballot is, and what the alternative and the impacts are. If I don’t know what it does you can’t reasonably expect that I’ll be able to justify my ballot for the K.
K literature that I am more familiar with: Cap, Imperialism, Set Col, Security, Fem. Anything else that isn’t a more traditional K you should assume I know nothing about. (good rule is to assume I don't know anything about the K though)
K Affs - Not a big fan --> probably not the judge you want for a K aff. Doesn't mean I refuse to vote on the aff tho it just means I expect a lot of explanation of the aff + interaction/clash with the neg.
K Aff v T --> Love T personally (I ran it very consistently), I expect K teams to be able to answer T thoroughly and properly. I lean more towards the neg. Fairness impacts are good but harder to win especially when the aff is oftentimes a turn to fairness. Other impacts I am a fan of: education (super important to me), limits, predictable clash. In order to win T it should be a large component of the block and the 2NR (but make sure you watch out for arguments on case that need to be answered). K teams can win in front of me but it is important that T is sufficiently answered.
Theory - Don't have any strong opinions on theory (but I do love a good condo round ;) ). Its a bit harder to win less traditional theory in front of me but I'll do my best to put my bias aside and weigh the impacts. DO NOT SPREAD YOUR THEORY BLOCKS. I understand its strategic if your opponents can't flow all of it but neither can I --> if you're going to ignore this and spread it at least send the block.
Topicality (policy) - Also don't have a strong opinion on topicality. I am less persuaded by a generic T block that doesn't specify the aff's violation and I am less persuaded if it's against a core file (huge aff with lots of literature/ground). I think topicality is good for keeping teams in check and preventing neg abuse but keep in mind that you should be able to clearly define what is and isn't topical (having a case list would help). Get creative but make sure your sources/definitions are credible and relevant. In order to win T it should be more than a minute of your block and all of the 2NR ( all or nothing basically).
Email: rgu6@illinois.edu and gurachael@gmail.com (in case one doesn't work)
wy '21 (policy)
uiuc '25 (parli)
I am not familiar with the emerging technologies topic this year so please contextualize whenever you can.
I’m not really good with K debates. However, if you do run a K, make sure it is well explained. Be very clear when explaining the link, impact, and alt to the k. I don’t like super wild K’s, so be careful with those.
For the rebuttals, tell me what I should be voting for and why you should win. During novice year, I think it is especially important to do impact calc and evidence comparison.
Please signpost and tell me which argument you are answering and do line-by-line. This would make it easier for me to flow your speech.
Also, have fun and try your best.
Email: michaeldavidh5@gmail.com
Current Affiliation: None
Conflicts (Please list any past associations you’ve had with a school/organization in the last 3 years--i.e coaching, debating and/or attending): I’ve judged for several different schools. I coached and debated for Lincoln Park HS.
Debate Experience: Three years high school debate experience, attended summer institutes at Emory, Northwestern and Dartmouth. I have been a debate coach for one year. I currently judge tournaments off and on and won’t know topic intimately.
DISADVANTAGES: I enjoy politics DA. Every DA needs to tell a solid link story (incl. Internal Link), generic links being less convincing.
TOPICALITY and THEORY: More persuaded by arguments of education than fairness. Team usually needs to prove in-round abuse or loss ground for me to vote on fairness. I find reasonability counter-standards to often be convincing. Teams must commit significant time to T or theory arguments in rebuttals for it to become a voting issue.
COUNTER PLANS: If decent theory arguments are made, I inclined to vote down PICs and Consult CPs. I’m not a fan of Conditional/Dispositional debates and rarely vote down a team because of it. I tend to find CPs without a spelled out plan text abusive.
KRITQUES: Links and internal links need to be clear. I prefer the alternatives to be thoroughly discussed. If K lacks an alternative then I need to know the role of the ballot. Framework and “Role of the Ballot” needs to always be competitive (e.g., should not simply be “vote against the plan”).
KRITICAL AFFIRMATIVES: I am open to K Affirmitives, but the more radical they are, the more Affirmitive must define their interpretation of policy debate. Affirmitive must have prepared response for what the Negative can potentially run against the case.
MISCELLENEOUS: I’m a bit old-school in preferring to see debaters standing up, and looking at the judge during cross-x. Tag team is allowed, but partner of debater being questioned should not dominant the responses. Please be nice and respectful in asking/giving evidence, referring to the other team and conducting C-X, otherwise I can deduct speaker points. If I need to read cards/evidence as a judge then the debaters are doing something wrong.
Add me to the email chain: fleemini@gmail.com
Annabel, She/Her
Please be clear, time yourselves, and make sure you flow!
Feel free to email me with any questions.
Of course I want to be on the email chain -- chwangdebate@gmail.com
HS Debate: 19-23 (4 years) -- Walter Payton
College Debate: 23-Present -- University of Michigan
Debate Coach: 23-Present -- Walter Payton
Top Level:
I think that judging records are more informative than whatever I type in my paradigm. Judging Record
Tech > Truth. I always decide the round off the flow first and foremost. Truth will have no bearing on the round unless the debate absolutely requires it because both teams failed to do literally anything which requires significant judge intervention. As an extension of this, I will not immediately strike arguments off my flow because they are too stupid or offensive to answer. The stupider and more offensive the argument is, the easier it should be to answer.
Throughout high school, I have done both policy and kritik strategies as both a 2A and a 2N. I have read big-stick policy affs, soft left affs, k-affs, 9-off 1NCs, and 1-off K 1NCs. My current style of debate is much more rooted in policy than K.
While I coach both policy and K teams, I spend the vast majority of my time doing policy research. I am very involved in argument coaching, and am usually well-versed in whatever the topic presents.
I do not care if you post-round; I am a firm believer that you have a right to express why you think you should've won the round. Debaters invest a lot of their time to win the round so they should have the ability to express why they believe that time should have resulted in a win. If you think part of my decision is wrong feel free to argue as it leads to better conceptualization of the decision.
If I need cards after the round I'll ask for them.
Online Debate:
Slow down regardless, but if you are unclear in person you should doubly slow down. No one wants part of my decision to be "I didn't hear that argument being made in x speech because you were very unclear."
I will type in chat if I am gone and my camera will be on showing that I am not there. If you start without me being there I will incredibly confused.
Things I like:
Clear framing of my ballot and why you win.
Really smart technical tricks or concessions.
When debaters time their own speeches.
Being funny and creative in your speeches.
Things I don’t like:
Saying the words “oops” or something along those lines at the top of your speech.
Calling me anything other than my name. “Judge” is the main one. You all are like a year or two younger than me calling me that makes me feel older than I am.
Unnecessarily saying my name in a speech just to prove you read the above line.
Being a jerk to your partner and/or the other team.
When the 1AC has not been sent out by the time the debate is supposed to start.
Trying to be funny and failing miserably.
When both people leave after the round. Too many times have I made a decision and have to run into the hallway looking for the debaters.
Kritikal affs:
I have read kritikal affs in the past, but I am still sympathetic to negative framework arguments.
Framework v. K-affs are some of my favorites debates to watch and judge. In my experience the aff wins these debates by winning their offense on the counter-interp and/or turning the neg's offense, while the neg tends to win these debates with smart framing of their interpretation and standards to mitigate aff offense.
If the 1AR makes vague, nebulous assertions about their aff with zero application to any negative offense, I am very reluctant to weighing any new 2AR spin.
I believe that fairness is the best impact, but that it can be either an impact or an internal link depending on how the teams contextualize it in-round.
Teams are not willing enough to go for presumption even when it is the correct 2NR. I am more than willing to pull the trigger on presumption should the negative arguments for it be strong enough. Varying inconsistencies between the 2AC and 1AR on case make pulling the presumption trigger that much easier.
I have little experience with KvK debates. I generally think that the aff gets perms, but I am very flexible on that.
Policy affs:
Do whatever.
A lot of affirmative teams are getting away with way too much and negative teams are allowing them to get away with it. Strong analytics are sometimes enough to take out shoddy internal link chains.
I am better for soft-left affs than most judges are.
Counterplans:
I enjoy counterplan competition debates but I fear that the majority of teams have literally zero clue what functional and textual competition actually mean and just use them as buzz words.
I think that people are either underutilizing immediacy and/or certainty key against process CPs, or they are giving terrible reasons for immediacy and certainty. Generic reasoning behind certainty and immediacy won't win you the round, but actually winning the deficit specific to the CP might.
Counterplan theory is a lost art of debate, which is a real shame because I love these debates. Affirmative teams are allowing negative teams to get away with murder. In a perfectly even debate I generally lean defense, but I am will decide the round purely off the flow. Should you invest the time and effort into effective and high quality theory debating, I am very receptive to such. The words “condo is a voting issue - time skew strat skew” do not constitute a complete argument. If you are just regurgitating your backfile theory blocks against each other I will disgruntledly vote for whoever backfiles are better and give both teams bad speaker points. Conversely, teams that utilize topic specification to describe the division of ground and how the theoretical objection changes will make me happy and be awarded high speaker points.
Saying "we get x condo" or "x condo is good/bad" is really arbitrary and I think is super hard to win, especially when the debate is "1 condo vs 2 condo" or something similar.
The reasoning for why new affs justify infinite condo is strange but I lean either way.
I generally find that word PICs are weak and unpersuasive. If you think that your word PIC is an exception you are welcome to try.
Kritiks:
I have found myself in the back of multiple rounds where the 2NR has been the K and am more than capable of evaluating it.
There has been a fundamental issue with how some teams are extending the K, and it has nothing to do with my predispositions on kritiks. Either:
- 2NRs are not going for framework or the alt at all and are losing on extinction outweighs a non-causal link, or
- 2NRs are not extending an impact (to framework, the links, or the K in general).
If you properly extend the K I am very receptive to it; I have found myself voting neg on the K when the 2NR does not have these issues and when the 2NR extends clearly articulated and nuanced arguments. I have no intention of voting up the K on vague, nebulous assertions made in the 2NR that are not applied to other parts of the flow.
I understand the basic premise of identity K's, but I have very limited experience reading them. I read an Orientalism K for a little which was more closely akin to an IR K than an Identity K. I think that saying that there's a link to the plan because of a historical event is a defensive argument for why progress is not possible but without further analysis will most likely not constitute a link to the aff.
I have next to zero experience with postmodernist/poststructuralist literature. I am not someone that easily understands that type of literature, thought or arguments. I will try and evaluate these debates as well as I can, but these types of arguments are far outside my realm of knowledge. You repeatedly saying the word “ressentiment” will definitely not help me. If you really want to win my ballot err on the side of over-explanation.
Topicality:
I am a better judge for evaluating T than most judges. There’s a strange paradox with judges that say that they are “tech over truth” but then have strong preconceptions of T debate that all but signal it is unwinnable for the neg. I have no such preconceptions. I have no preference for one standard compared to another.
I go either way on plan text in a vacuum.
I think that reasonability is very winnable, but only if you properly debate the negative’s debatability/limits push. I think debates are a lot easier to win on T if you frame it as a game of inches rather than a game of extremes. Rather than winning "our interp is good, their interp is bad", it is much easier to win that both models can be good and that either there is a small comparative advantage to one interpretation or conversely that because both are good it's a reason why competing interpretations in this instance is bad. I haven't seen any debates like this, but I definitely think teams should.
Disads:
I think that zero risk is real, and I have not heard a convincing reason why it is not real that is not interventionalist.
Other than that, I don’t think there’s a whole lot that can be said, or honestly should be said. There’s this strange dilemma surrounding politics and “generic” DAs which I don’t really get. A disadvantage is just a negative implication to the plan, there realistically shouldn’t be this much hemming and hawing to what that means. Read the disads you think will win.
Impact Turns
Impact turns are a unique opportunity to research and deploy arguments that challenge conventional wisdom, and are very fun and creative debates. I don't have any strong feelings for one side or another on any impact turn. I do not think that genocide good is an answer to war good.
If the 1AC has read an extinction impact and has said "the plan prevents extinction" the AFF has committed to extinction being undesirable and we should prevent it. If the 1NC stands up and says that the best way to prevent extinction is to go to war with a country, I think that the AFF saying "genocide bad" is not a responsive answer.
Speaks:
Theoretically the mean speaks should be 28.5, and I try will give speaks around there. The chance that (unless something went terribly astray) you get a 27 or a 30 is basically 0. I have and will give substantially different speaker points between partners if it is fitting, and I think low point wins are more common than is documented.
I think that giving speaker points for things like "make me laugh" or "mention x debater" is really dumb. I also think that taking away speaker points for doing thinks like calling me judge is also really dumb. If you are a funny debater that probably already affected the speaks I am giving you positively, so adding more just artificially inflates speaks.
Hotter Takes/Misc.
If you go for a new argument in the 2AR based on the 2NR, you must tell me how to evaluate it or I assign 50% weight to everything which opens the debate up to way more intervention that I am sure anyone wants.
Breaking new on paper, or sending one card at a time, or something in those regards is a little silly, but I guess I see where you are coming from.
There are individual instances of debate or state action that could be contextualized as good or bad, but I think it's hard to say that debate or the state as a whole is inherently either because of those examples. I think that using said specific examples in order to determine that debate and/or the state wholistically is either good or bad is really dumb.
Hello! I'm Collin Lamb, I am a former debater at Lane Tech High School now attending IIT.
IMPORTANT NOTE FOR 23/24 SEASON:I am not an active debater on any team in any way. I am DEEPLY unfamiliar with this year's topic and even more unfamiliar with arguments you might feel are routine or to be expected. Do not rely on a store of background knowledge you might assume I have, ensure that your arguments are coherent to someone who is, for lack of a better term, a layman on this topic. Sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Spreading: Fast is good, clear is better. I am not your opponent, so I will be getting a majority of my flows from what I hear; not by scrolling through your speech doc.
Please time all your own speeches, CX, and prep.
Ks: Full disclosure, I am not a big K guy. So PLEASE explain these very clearly. Act as if I know very little, make your K make sense and make them matter in the face of policy affs and arguments.
General Things: Be very clear in your arguments. Explain it to me like I'm five and you're teaching me the ABCs, whichever side makes their argument the clearest and most coherent could be the deciding factor of the debate. Don't be a jerk. I get that tensions and things run high during tournaments but don't be an overt jerk to the other team. Bonus: If you can somewhat organically fit the phrase "Yabba-Dabba-Doo" into one of your speeches you will receive +0.1 speaks. (Limit one per customer)
clamb2@hawk.iit.edu
Hi, my name is Katelyn, and I am former policy debater for Skinner West and Whitney Young. I now currently judge/mentor both teams, and have been in debate for around 6-7 years. I judge both PF and policy.
My email: kjluu@cps.edu
Here are some general rules/things I like to see:
- Time yourself please, this should be a debater's responsibility
- Spreading is always nice but give roadmaps + signpost (clarity>speed)
- Always include impact calculus in the rebuttal speeches
- I prefer overviews in speeches rather than giving me an underview with remaining time (overviews are always good to hear)
- Organized line by line in the rebuttal speeches is always good
- tag teaming is ok but don't take over CX
- please overexplain rather than underexplain to get through more arguments
- I tend to prefer substance of the debate over generalized arguments or evidence, so make sure you are not just extending cards and evidence but also providing analytics and building clash
- I tend to not take questions/arguments made in the CX into account in my ballot, you must bring whatever it was that occurred up in a speech for me to weigh it and flow it
- tech over truth
AFF:
- always always always extend your impacts- I tend to weigh presumption so please give me impact extensions through your rebuttals
- evidence/source debate is good clash in my opinion, updated evidence is always good
- I don't vote too heavy on perm- I want to see why you expand on refuting net benefits, solvency advocates, etc
- I vote on T, so please take your time to refute it - I really REALLY like well thought out and run T arguments
- I typically go for extinction rather than moral/human rights arguments
NEG:
- I vote on NEG presumption, so please expand squo solves arguments and turns- there are a lot of good case turns that can be abused that typically are not extended in debate rounds- I would love to see clash on case
- I weigh all offcase arguments, but I tend to see DAs as net benefits or loopholes rather than physical arguments on their own (please do run DAs though)
- I don't weigh K too heavily, but I do appreciate framing and theory arguments
- I really like T arguments and clash - please go all in or drop T in the rebuttals- I really hate to see poorly run Topicality
- Be clear when kicking out of offcase arguments and please don't commit a forfeit offense :)
- I am familiar with a few K args, majority of the CPs, DAs and more, but I love to hear new arguments every now and then
That's all I've got, I love to see respectful and educational debates filled with clash. Thanks for reading my paradigm, and good luck debating!
Katharine Morley -- she/they
Put me on the email chain: katharine.morley.debate@gmail.com
Please feel free to email me with questions.
Northside 2020-2024
send out the email chain at round time even if I am not there
Novices: flow, follow tournament rules, and ask questions post-round
- in your 2nr/2ar write the ballot (explain why you win)
- do line-by-line (aka respond to the other team's arguments)
- put offense first
If you make me laugh +0.5 speaks
She/They
Tldr; Good for the k/k-aff, fine for anything- Lane 23’, U of Iowa 27'
1 time NDT waitlisted if that type of thing matters to you
Former Lane debater/coach, current Iowa debater. I ran trans K stuff in high school, I currently run trans studies at the University of Iowa.
Preferably turn your camera on, however, I understand if that's not possible
Don't be rude
If you end any of your speeches with "And that's how the cookie crumbles" I will boost your speaks
Specifics:
My topic knowledge is vague at best, but for the sake of the round pretend like I know nothing
Ks: Down with anything, not going to virtue signal and say I won’t vote for death good. If it’s a troll argument you should be able to beat it easily. Most experienced with PoMo/queerness/trans studies, I think specific links are important but don't have any weird convictions that you have to go for the alt (though I think it's generally useful). It is my pet peeve for k framework to run to the middle, take an actual stance.
Policy affs: Have fun!
K affs: I don't expect you to spill out or actually do something though I really prefer if you have a method, if I wanted an FYI I'd just go to class.
Framework: I will like you a lot more if you read parametrics/tactics.
Anything else: I will vote on the flow, no strong preferences either way
Solorio 23'
I prefer policy have leaned into the big stick impacts and low probability impact calculus more than I would like to admit. (much to the dismay of judges whos rounds devolve to solvency in order to determine probability in counterplan debates)
This should indicate to you that often I am tech over truth. No matter how little explanation an advantage or DA scenario gets, if its dropped by the other team, 15 seconds of yelling its been dropped thus it is true typically is sufficient to allow me to weigh marginal risk of an impact which for close debate may be all you needed to win.
DA's
I feel generally positive about voting for non-sensible Bizcon or Politics DA's but its in the execution. Please have updated evidence and a proper link no matter how strong the link is any specificity to the aff is much better than generic links (topic links are a strange grey area but need some "2NC Spin" or new evidence to better justify the link.)
Calling me a judge makes me feel old but I’m fine with it if that's what you prefer, you can also call me Chris.
He/Him
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Solorio ‘23 —> UIUC ‘27
Background:
I debated at Solorio for 4 years, competing in both nat circuit and UDL. I mostly stuck to policy but did run some of the wacky counterplans (thanks Gio! :) ). I have a good exposure to traditional policy and some on Ks. I went to debate camp at Dartmouth and got taught to debate by Conor B(if you know what the B is please tell me) Cameron and Victoria Yonter. Currently not debating.
Top Level:
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I’m not too familiar with the current high school topic so assume I don’t know any of the specifics for your aff/arguments.
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I’m better for Policy than the K, but like any other argument I’m willing to vote on it if it’s explained thoroughly
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Tech > Truth — If something is dropped don’t just say, “they dropped___” and move on. Explain the argument and make it clear how you want me to evaluate the argument.
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I’ll read evidence but it won’t weigh my decision unless you specifically tell me to look at a certain piece or if there’s a lot of evidence comparison.
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I won’t do the work for you, if you don’t contextualize an argument to the debate then I’m less likely to vote on it.
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I assign higher speaks based on how confident you are and the depth of your arguments. I doc speaks if you are rude to your opponents or partner. Being assertive is good but there’s a difference between assertiveness and rudeness.
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My ballot is submitted before I give feedback. I'm happy to walk through my ballot in a constructive manner, but aggressive post rounding is cringe.
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Should go without saying but I won't tolerate Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, Ableism, etc.
Specifics
DAs:
I think Disads are great and should be in every 1NC. Disads should tell a story of the negative consequences of passing the plan. Every part of the disad is important but I think more time should be spent on the Link and Impact.
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For the neg: If the DA is being run by itself tell me how it turns case and do impact comparison. If it's being run as a net benefit, the previous sentence applies + tell me how the CP avoids the DA. I’d be more convinced by your DA if the link is more specific to the Aff
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For the aff: I’m a fan of both offense and defense arguments when answering a DA. If you want to take the offense route you’ll need to read more cards and have a better explanation in order to execute the straight turn effectively. On the defense route make sure to focus on why case outweighs.
CTs:
I love case turns. I don’t have much to say other than more often than not, these debates get messy. Just make sure to keep everything consistent. LBL will be your best friend in these debates.
CPs:
I’m probably more open to wacky CPs than other judges, keep in mind wacky =/= abusive. Multi-plank counterplans are iffy for me, it all depends how you run them: If you go for all the planks you present then that's alright with me. If you kick out 4 of the 9 planks you presented, it’s more likely I’ll vote aff on theory. Other counterplans such as agent/process cps are fine with me.
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On the neg: Remember, the counterplan is a reason to reject the aff. ALWAYS have a net benefit; either external or internal. Make sure to explain how the CP avoids the net benefit, and how the CP access the plan and solves. Answer the perms.
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On the aff: I’m not too efficient in perm theory so if your strategy revolves around outlandish perms then I’m probably not your judge for it, but like any other argument if explained well, I’m willing to vote on them. Other than that POSTAL should be your rubric on answering CPs
Ks:
I find Ks very interesting but they’re not my strong point, far from it. You’ll have to do more work in order to get me to vote for them i.e. explaining all of it: role of the ballot, alt and impact. If you can’t tell me what any of those are, I can’t justify giving you my ballot.
I’m familiar with literature for Cap, Security, Imperialism, Set Col, etc. For high theory Ks, all of the above applies + higher expectations. Throwing buzz words will not only make your opponents confused, it’ll confuse me too.
K Affs:
Not much to say other than I’m probably not your judge for this, but if you’re willing to put in the effort and do the work, then I’m willing to do my best to judge.
I do expect you to interact and clash more with the neg.
T:
Also not much to say other that I’m less likely to vote on it if it’s super generic as in not specifying how the aff violates, also if it's against a core aff. Having a case list helps.
Theory:
I’m pretty neutral when it comes to condo and evaluate based on the round I’m judging. I’m less likely to vote on other theory arguments, unless explained well. Don’t spread through your blocks and if you do send them in the doc.
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Niles West '23
Michigan State '27
Last Update - 1.22.24
**TLDR**
I will try to not let my beliefs influence me, that being said I will not tolerate any offensive acts (racism, sexism, homophobia, etc). You will lose automatically, be given the lowest speak points and I will email coaches/school. Now that is out of the way, you should do what you do best. Most important things are keeping the round organized, show your knowledge about the topic not just read blocks. Arguments need warrants behind them, inserting top level claims even if its dropped is NOT a full argument. I am not as familiar with the highschool topic, so clear explanation, no weird acronyms will be appreciated. Last but not least, debate is suppose to be an activity where you have fun, yes competitive incentives exist but don't let that be the only thing you get out of debate.
**Specific Args**
Kritik:
I enjoy these debates when there is clash between arguments. I believe that framework determines whether links need to be unique. Dropping AFF impacts on case put you in a hard position if you are not winning that they shouldn't be able to weigh case. Teams should not allow the neg to act like/say they fiat 'movements' or 'mindsets' otherwise the debate becomes an uphill battle for the aff. Negative kicking the alt and going for links as DAs can be strategic but understanding uniqueness and framework in these debate is key. KvK rounds for the most goes which ever side has more perm + no link work, specific links are super important in these rounds.
Framework:
I think that I am better for framework than most people may think, but Impact articulation matters for me cause when teams blend impacts and become repetitive/generic it often will make you lose these rounds. These debates should make it clear whether its about models of debate, just fairness in this round or both etc. I believe that "debate is a game" does not = debate is a good game and participation in that "game" does not = can't say the game is bad. Competitive incentives probably overdetermine actions but like you need to win it and explain what it means to the round, inserting it 40 times isn't going to get you anything. I find TVA's to be wayyyy more persuasive than SSD but no matter what at least one of them should be extended because you definitely need to be able to access at least some of their offense. Aff you should just go ham on the impact turn, but it gets hard to evaluate debates where the 2AR is extending every DA and not unpacking/comparing impacts.
Topicality:
I am not very familiar with topicality on the highschool topic, thus things like TVA, list of good AFFs under your interpretation, list of bad AFFs under their interpretation, definition comparison, explanation of neg ground under your interpretation AND the other teams are helpful. I honestly think aff ground is probably a good impact specifically on this topic.
Disadvantage:
Yay I actually like DA and Case debates, comparison and organization is super important in these rounds. High Schoolers read literally horrible DAs that they will never go for, don't be afraid to straight turn them. Rehighlightings prob are good.
Counterplans:
I just don't think I am that good for competition debates, process counterplans confuse me. Rehighlighting 1AC evidence is a good way to show the CP overcomes solvency deficits and truly solves the affirmative. If you think the CP does not solve all of the aff, you should probably have some impact d/turns or whatever on what you don't solve.
**Miscellaneous**
I am willing to vote on theory, but I dont want to vote on aspec.
Condo is good!
I feel like clipping is a weird issue to resolve, like its weird to record someone without their permission? But if I catch you clipping I wont record but you will probably lose.
Tbh I lowkey give high speaks, getting away from blocks, your knowledge about the topic, organization are all the big things that go into how I give speaks. If you aren't clear and I miss an argument, its your fault. Teams also need to be giving more pen time between flows.
I feel like debate can change your subject formation, like you spend so much time in the activity, you make such close friends, spend hours researching and more. Like it is true debaters read things they don't agree with, but it is also true that debate is a unique place because its not like you are just out doing strategic debating and talking about things like IR with like your aunt or school friends. Also like I truly don't think you can look some of these judges who have spent their whole lives on debate and say that debate hasn't shaped them into the person they are now.
For other forms (pf, ld) I will evaluate rounds like I would a policy one. I am not familiar at all with either topic and am not great for weird theory things, trix etc.
Feel free to post round if you don't agree with my decision. I am happy to discuss it!
Hi Debaters,
I try my best to adhere to the rules of debate, so not to allow personal biases enter the round. However, below, you’ll find a few answers to common questions debaters have for a judge that may influence the ballot, and the displays of conduct that I appreciate viewing that may influence speaker points:
Case: More warrants. Less speculation. I don’t enjoy AFFs with advantages based on speculative impacts. Let the research connect the dots. I appreciate a good two-worlds analysis later in the debate.
T: I don’t enjoy voting on T, but I will.
K: Please, please, please, for Debate God’s sake, give us a strong K shell. Framework also matters. (Make it make sense. Why does the K matter? Was does the alternative look like? Why should we prefer the alt to the plan? Can the worlds coexist? And in what order, if any?)
Abuse: I’m not particularly sensitive to abuse arguments, unless a party is profoundly impacted by [insert] action.
Speaker points: I assign based on quality of argumentation and clash, clarity, sportsmanlike conduct and individual contribution to the round.
-One can be amazing in argumentation, clash and clarity, but lose speaker points for being unsportsmanlike — which I understand is subjective. We know that debate can bring out our sassiness. Let’s not be disrespectfully spicy. I appreciate focus on argumentation, not attacks on intellect or character.
-One can also give great speeches and participate in Cx, but if your partner is doing most of the asking/answering in Cx or is clearly owning the bulk of your speeches, it won't help YOUR speaker points.
-NOTE! Speed as it relates to clarity: totally fine with speed, but not in the absence or reduction of enunciation. Please be clear.
Hope this helps!
Happy Debating,
Lana
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Former LT debater/coach
(virtual debate) Please turn your camera on while you're speaking if possible
Tell me why you win the debate, do impact calc, know the material you're reading, time yourself, don't be rude. Don't be a bigot.
I'm ok with tag team cross ex but ask the other team
for all --
I have some topic knowledge but it's not comprehensive, assume that I know nothing
Most familiar with K debate, but read whatever you want as long as you're doing in-depth, specific line-by-line
for novices --
Good line-by-line will get you further than any number of cards in round. Your 2NC should not be 8 minutes of cards. Your 2AC case defense should include analytics and extensions.
DAs--obviously fine, just make sure that you are defending and extending your entire link chain throughout the debate. If you only extend what the other team responds to and end up with just uniqueness and an impact in the 2NR, that's hard to vote for.
T-- Make sure that you clash and are directly responding to the other team's arguments. Don't just read the same T overview in every speech, go in-depth on your arguments.
CPs--make sure you don't link to the net benefit, explain how the world of the CP functions as opposed to the world of the plan, tie in solvency deficits on case to explain why the CP is better. Use the CP in your impact calc--if the aff is weighing their impacts vs your DAs but you solve the impacts of the aff, I have no reason to vote for them.
Ks--I've read a lot of Ks and I have a good grasp of security, cap, psychoanalysis, set col, and fem Ks. Even if you're reading one of those arguments, explain the theory of the K and especially your links very clearly. Read framework and do it with intention--don't just read the same 3 lines in every speech. I won't kick the alt unless you tell me to.
Theory--read it, slow down when reading, make sure you're listening to what the other team is saying and directly responding. Direct clash on theory is important. I dislike perf con and ASPEC but I will vote on it if you win on it.
K affs -- I am generally opposed to novice K affs--I think more often than not the neg is completely confused and it's not a valuable exercise for either side. I will listen to you, I will give you feedback, and I will not automatically vote you down for reading it, but I will probably lean neg.
Please read overviews, when you're speaking make sure to signpost and say "AND" or "NEXT" between cards.
Show me your flows after the round for +0.2 speaks
I prefer Jairo (pronounced hi-roe) over judge, but im fine with either
He/They
2A/1N for Solorio 19-23
Not debating at Northwestern 23-27
Assistant Coach at Von Steuben 24-Present
Background+Top level stuff
I debated both in nat circ and udl (Chicago Debate League) tournaments during high school. Went to camp during my freshie and soph (virtual) years, so if any questions then I am more than willing to answer.
For the current high school topic, assume I know very little---the only experience I have with it is from the other times i've judged/helped coach teams at tourneys
Tech>Truth---Doesnt mean you dont have to contextualize/explain what them dropping something means for the round, you still have to explain and make clear what the argument is for me to evaluate it in your favor
Better for policy---didn't do K debate, but don't let that stop you from running what you want///i'll vote for anything if you are winning it
No specific way to assign speaks, just be nice, speak pretty, explain things well, and youll do alright
I feel like I can be a pretty visual person with my face, so if I approve or disapprove of something then you will be able to tell(nodding head for good, scrunching my face for not so good, you get the gist)
Anything that promotes violence, discrimination, or hate is an immediate L, lowest speaks possible, and a report to tab
Specifics
In case you are wondering about in depth thoughts on arguments:
DAs
I really like disads and I think they are a staple of what neg args should be in debate. For every disad, paint me a story of how the disad actually happens if the plan were to pass, from the UQ up to the moment of the impact(big red button is pressed, oceans rise and we get 2012 IRL, the environment collapses, etc.)
- For the neg---should always be in a 1nc. For later speeches, if running DA by itself, tell me why it turns the case and do impact calc. If running as a net benefit, tell me exactly how the cp avoids the DA. Avoid generic links as much as possible; if generic link is called out then I am much much less to weigh the DA as highly as the aff
- For the aff---the best strat to go for is straight turn imo. If done well , then you have forced the neg into an awkard position and you are fully in control of that flow. Honestly if the neg fumbles the straight turn answers too then I am all for a pure straight turn 2ar. If not possible, then the main canon of arguments work, just prove why case outweighs
CTs
I LOVE case turns. These debates can get messy tho, so for both sides make sure to 1. keep the story clean and concise 2. try to organize LBL as much as possible
- Neg---If you wanna go for a CT, then you have to make sure to tell me all throughout the debate how the aff links and how the impact outweighs. Personally, I dont mind it if you sandbag in the block, so go crazy with impacts if you have them, just make sure to answer all the aff args they present cus even once concession can take out the whole ct for me
- Aff---For most of the CTs run, theres a high likelihood you link. It might just be me, but if its clear the aff links, then I just want to see you bite the bullet and tell me why that linking is good(i.e, if you increase growth then do growth good, if heg then heg good, so on, and give me specifics as to why its good). Obviously, this doesn't mean you can just disregard their impacts, so make sure to also answer or group the impacts they had. If they sandbag in the block, then crossapplying is your friend
CPs
CPs are really interesting because theyre either really good or really mid. In general, Agent/Process cps are legit, I find consult cps boring, and if your cp has more than like 5 planks then don't even run it(even you know its abusive). Also, sufficiency framing is iffy---if your cp doesnt solve the impact of the aff, then why even run it
- Neg---THE CP HAS TO BE A REASON TO REJECT THE AFF, PLEASEEEEEEE. That means even if the cp is plan plus, I still wont vote for it. You need to prove to me in the 2nr 2 things: First, you are able to access the plan and solve for the impacts through your cp, and second, doing the plan alone is bad/doing the cp would solve for discrepancies with the plan alone. That being said, you ALWAYS need a net benefit, whether it be internal or external, and explain how the CP avoids that
- Aff---Personally, I like seeing shifty perms being run and exploited like crazy if conceded. By shifty, I dont mean different wordings of the cp text so dont do that, but shifty as in like "do plan and have agency do x instead". In general, POSTAL works great with cps so just stick to that and youll be good
T
T has sucked these past few topics cus everything is so untopical but borderline topical. That being said, don't just run T as a strat skew cus that just wastes flow and could be used for more substantive off. However, still good to always have T on both sides in case of anything
- Neg---I feel like T is really underappreciated against smaller affs. If you are able to call out a team effectively on how theyre untopical, then keep it going all throughout the round and call out if their counterinterps are generic, if they severely underlimit, and so on. T can get very messy though, so unless you have a really good feeling about T, dont run it because I know we dont wanna argue over definitions for 2 hours
- Aff---If you know you're borderline topical, you better have a damn good counterinterp. Apart from that, main canon of arguments work in front of me
Ks
Ks are really interesting but far from my specialty(I had to debate under a hard right policy coach for 4 years, dont blame me). With that tho, I am really only interested/know more of the main canon of neg ks, so stuff like cap, security, afropess, queer. fem, etc. If your k is high theory, then dont pref me(I dont wanna hear about baudrillard for 2 hours)
- Neg---In front of me, you link you lose is valid ONLY IF you win framework(run it as like a da in a way). I really dont buy many alts of the ks as realistic, so if you know your alt isnt that amazing and the aff is calling you out on it, just drop it and resort to talking about how they make matters worse and why I need to evaluate the K more than I do the aff. However, if you run some generic links against the aff, then I am much much less likely to weigh it that highly if they call out the generality
- Aff---Ima be straight and to the point in what I like to see v ks- first strat, call out why the alt fails and why its probably unrealistic/doesnt solve. Second, if they kick the alt, go for case outweighs and specifically why case outweighs, so if you need util then run it in the 2ac, or impact d then also run it in the 2ac, and hell you can even do case turns k to take out the impacts. For all of that to work though, you NEED to win and stay on top of framework, so keep framework on top of the k flow in every speech. Perms are pretty weak v ks, so still read them but dont depend on them for the 2ar
K affs
In all honesty, I am not in tune with k affs like that, so I am not the best judge to run these in front of. However, if it is your main strategy, then you should run what you are most comfortable with
- Neg---Unless you would also run Cap against them, you should just run FW. I buy FW the most against k affs, just stay on top of their answers to your arguments and you should be alright
- Aff---For a k aff to stick in front of me, I need a clear explanation why running the k aff solves for your impacts and why this round is specifically necessary. I need a role of the ballot from the get go(2ac fs, 1ac preempt maybe even) and for this to be explained in depth in the later parts of the round. In a similar fashion, I need an explanation of why running on the neg cant solve, and you need to explain to me how the alt looks like in action
Theory
Most theory is really a wash for me. The only one I will vote for is condo, but that also depends on the round and how many conditional off are run
Misc. Stuff
I like jokes---if you make me laugh then i'll give you +.1-.2 speaks---specifically, joke about Conor Cameron or Victoria Yonter(and if it flies), i'll give +.3
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I made one phone call
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Same cars, too
It's really not that hard
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Feels good, huh?
But let's not forget how you got here
(YAH-YEET)
Little brother Jakey try to roast me? (what?)
Little brother standing on his own two feet?
(not for long)
I'm a dog, you're a puppy, call you Kong
Let's talk about your garbage that you call a song
It should be every other day, just some strong advice
I made you famous once, it's about to happen twice
Yeah, you on Disney, but who helped you read all your lines (that's me)
Don't forget boy, you were my shadow on Vine
Now you got a few subscribers, and you think that you're the shiz
I'll admit, you got money, you got bars, you got chicks
But you're a d***
You ain't thankful for your fans, it's kinda funny
Do your investors know Team 10 ain't making any money?
See, it starts with the talent, but it's hard when you got none
I think you kinda salty 'cause I'm the favorite son
I'm a maverick, you're a sidekick, yeah I brought you to LA
If there's one thing you should know
You don't frick with the Logang
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It's doing nothing now you try to rap
(come on, hold up)
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Maybe Team 10's got it
I mean, that's how you grow
But you still can't sell out any shows
No, you still can't find some matching clothes
(YAH-YEET)
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You ain't doing it right, double fact
Trying to play ball with the dogs
You don't know what you've done you just ruined your life, yeah
You're just killing the vibe, yeah
You ain't doing it right, yeah
Trying to play ball with the dogs
You don't know what you've done you just ruined your life, yeah
What happened, Jake?
Man, we used to love each other
After all, we came from the same mother
Biologically, you know that makes us brothers
So much negativity, it really makes me wonder (why?)
I feel like you just need a maverick shirt
(Link in description!)
When you insult me Jakey, it really hurts
Sometimes I wish my real brother was Dirk
(Disney!)
But now I gotta go and put you in the dirt
Yo, wait what?
hold up, hold up
Why'd the music stop?
Uh Oh! That's Alissa Violet
Used to be your chick
Now she in the Logang
And you know she on my, team!
Those cars ain't yours man
That shiz was just floated
Gun tattooed on your leg
'Cause she knew you weren't loaded
I act movies that your fans watch with their baby sitters
I thought you were my boy, guess I have a baby sister
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Go make another video, 'bout who's the better kisser
Is it called Team 10, cuz you take 10 percent of your friends? (That's fucked up, Jake)
When the contract dies, so does their carrer it ends? (That's also a fact)
Are you mad just 'cause you couldn't sign the Dolans? (They're smarter than you)
So you had to replace them with some spanish twins? (haha WEAK !!)
It's every day bro, do you give up at night?
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I'm a savage
You are average
I'm a beast
I'm going wild
This song will be the death of you
I'm 'bout to be an only child!
Please add me to the chain
Pronouns: he/him
Tech>Truth
Don’t be a jerk + don’t be racist/sexist/homophobic
Try to time your own speeches/cx/prep
Mention Juice WRLD in your speech for extra speaks
I can tell when you're stealing prep - Don't do it
Roast Greyson Parfenoff for extra speak