KCKCC DCI TOC Qualifier
2015 — KS/US
Policy Paradigm List
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Assistant Coach at Blue Valley West
I strongly believe that the affirmative has to defend hypothetical implementation of USFG action. If you choose not to, I will find it very hard to vote for you.
I look at a round through the lense of offense/defense. My knowledge on the topic is also limited so don’t expect me to know your acronyms.
K’s – I am not the best judge for them.
I generally have a pretty high threshold for what constitutes an argument when it comes to K's. For example, I think that you need to articulate a specific link based on the advantages. Also I’m not really familiar with the lit for most K’s so I am going to need clearer explanations of your arguments.
T - T I usually default to competing interps.
Theory – Theory is usually a reason to reject the argument. Condo is usually good.
CP – Should probably be textually and functionally competitive.
Name - Colin Barclay
Experience - Debated for 4 years at Basehor-Linwood High School and currently debating for KCKCC.
TL;DR I am very flexible in how I judge. I prefer truth over tech. I am a strong believer in education. Please go into a debate looking forward to learning and most of all HAVE FUN!
Now for the long version.
I am very flexible in how I judge. I prefer truth over tech, if you have a strong argument that makes sense run with it. But that's not to say I won't listen to technicalities at all. If you drop an argument, it's still dropped. I'm a fan of Topicality and extending out why this is important. On the other hand I am not a fan of Framework, not to say I won't vote on it. It does have a purpose, but if everything goes well, framework should not even have to be an argument. Finally I am a big fan of education, after all, that is why we are here. To learn, so please go into a debate looking forward to learning. This is one of the best learning experiences you will ever have. The final thing, HAVE FUN! This is the first thing that is forgotten in any sport. We are here because we want to be here. So please be kind, fair, and sportsmanlike.
Affirmative- In a perfect world, the plan is topical and makes sense. Then the affirmative spend the majority of their time defending their case. This is not to say that all of the other specifics do not matter. They do, so please defend every argument that is thrown at you. In this game the affirmative is the defence so do exactly that, defend your plan. I love plans that make sense and are realistic.
Negative- Similar to the affirmative, the job of the Negative is to be the offense, so do exactly that, attack their plan in anyway.
DA's, CP's, K's, etc...
Please stick to the book in all of these. Which means you impact it out, you present a timeframe, links, impact calculus, the whole nine yards. Ill put emphasize on impacting it out. Make it matter, don't just throw it out there and say "bad stuff will happen, now on to the next argument..." Make it matter to me, talk about why this is important.
Final thoughts- Try to be quick when emailing/flashing files over to the other team. I understand that things may not go as planned so just try to be fast about it. Please, NO personal attacks I have been in way too many debates where personal attacks are used, it's a low blow and is always uncalled for. This goes along with please do not be angry or mean, and please be fair and sportsmanlike. This is a game after all, just like all the other sports, this game of debate still needs fairness and sportsmanship. When walking out of every debate you should be leaving with more knowledge and understanding.
Debate background:
-Four years of debate at Shawnee Mission Northwest
-Current fourth year debater at the University of Kansas
-Assistant Coach at Blue Valley Southwest
Last Updated: 7/04/16
Top level stuff:
1. I believe the affirmative must read a topical plan.
2. Tech over truth – I prefer clear technical debates. A dropped argument is a true argument.
3. An argument must contain a claim and a warrant.
4. I tend to evaluate debates through an offense/defense paradigm but I am willing to assign 100% risk of a case takeout or a 0% risk of disad.
5. I would be willing to listen to arguments about why lying during disclosure is a voting issue.
6. I will not vote on a microaggression. That is a question of speaker points and not which team did the better debating.
On specific arguments:
K Affs – I have a strong bias in favor of framework-type arguments that the affirmative should have an instrumental defense of the resolution. In a world where the negative does not make this argument, this becomes irrelevant. To deploy a critical affirmative in front of me that does not defend a plan, it would be best to show concrete reasons why your affirmative is topically germane, does not reduce ground, and does not explode limits.
Topicality – Topicality is always a voting issue and never a reverse voting issue. I tend to default to competing interpretations but can be persuaded otherwise. I find topical version of the aff arguments very compelling so negatives should make sure to deploy those arguments. I prefer that you have evidence for your interpretation in order to make sure it is predictable and grounded in the topic literature. Limits debates are important for both sides.
Counterplans – I tend to believe that counterplans ought to be textually and functionally competitive. I will not kick the counterplan for the negative unless explicitly instructed by the negative in the 2NR that the status quo is an option.
Theory – Usually a reason to reject the argument and not the team. I have an overwhelming bias in favor of conditionality and it is an extreme uphill battle to get me to vote for the argument unless it is conceded or forces egregious aff contradictions.
Theory arguments I tend to lean aff on:
-Consult
-Delay
-Word PICs
-Object Fiat
Disads – My preferred strategy as a 2N is DA + CP, but I also very much enjoy DA + Case debates. Turns case arguments are very strategic and should be deployed by the negative.
Case – I am a big fan of case debates because there is so much opportunity for clash which tends to boost speaker points. If you can minimize the risk of the aff your chances of winning will increase substantially. I am also a fan of impact turns and I enjoying listening to those debates.
Kritiks – You should err on the side of me not being familiar with your K lit so you should have clear explanations of links and the alt. Ks with specific links are great. Affs need to answer dirty K tricks. I do not find “Kritiks are cheating” arguments very compelling. Affirmatives should also have a defense of their ontology/epistemology/reps. Framing (what I should prioritize, what impacts matter, etc) is critical for both teams if they want to get ahead in this debate.
Paperless – Prep stops when you are done prepping and are ready to save your speech to a flash drive.
Be respectful of your opponents. You can be aggressive and competitive but speaker points will suffer if you cross the line and become disrespectful.
Chris Birzer
Add me to the email chain: chrisbirzer [at] gmail [dot] com
Gonzaga 2018 Update:
This will be the first college debate tournament that I judge. I have zero idea what is happening on this topic but I did debate on the war powers topic 5 years ago. You should still assume that I know nothing, and that my flowing and debate judging skills are not at their peak.
I will work to resolve the arguments made in the debate in the most objective and impartial manner possible. I believe I am significantly more ideologically open than I was when I stopped debating a few years ago, and I am excited to listen to all strains of arguments. Still, you should know that I am more practiced in "policy" arguments than critical arguments.
I believe that theory arguments are almost always a reason to reject the argument. I have an almost overwhelming inclination that conditionality is good in all instances, regardless of quantity.
inactive
Former GA at Missouri State in both NFA and NDT-CEDA
5 years of college debate
I have been out of debate for a while, but this is now current for Lafayette 2019.
I would prefer to be included on the Email thread so that I can rapidly check evidence AFTER the debate. I will not follow along during the debate. Please send the docs and emails to brenden.71@gmail.com
EDIT 2017: I have come to realize that my paradigm is extremely long and detailed(probably too much so) so I have inserted a TLDR version below:
you do you - Im most familiar with policy arguments, HOWEVER, I love watching a well done K debate. I have zero preference in terms of ideological "debate poles", but be warned that the more complex your argument (policy included) the greater the burden is on you to make sure that I am following you. I generally give strong facial cues (or at least so I'm told) when I do not understand the argument you are making. I also love smart T debates, and really enjoy a well developed limits debate. I do not enjoy shallow T debates or generic framework debates that are devoid of context/ boil down to "no k's in debate!". This extends to generic theory arguments. These debates should be about models of debate. In round abuse is not necessary, and the debaters should focus on articulating the advantages and disadvantages of the various interpretations of debate, even if that is mandatory disclosure or condo always bad.
For those of you looking for more detail on specific debate issues, I have endeavored to write out my views on those things below in an attempt to provide predictable judging and to help me understand my own positions on various aspects of debate.
Top level:
My main goal as a judge is to resolve arguments made by debaters to form a coherent decision about the issue that the debaters have decided to debate. I will attempt to do this, as much as possible, solely based on the arguments presented by the debaters in their speeches and transcribed onto my flow. I do not particularly enjoy having to read a lot of evidence because I feel that it can lead to too much intervention on my part. That said, I will most definitely read evidence that has been strongly contested, highlighted as being particularly important or accused of being "power-tagged". In this sense evidence comparison is very important to me. Remember, debate is a communicative activity and it is the debater’s job to make arguments that persuade me to vote for you. I will try to be vigilant about policing new arguments, though debaters are encouraged to assist in this task.
Now the issues:
Topicality
Topicality is a potentially relevant and important argument to every single affirmative. The length of time and number of teams reading an affirmative do not make an aff topical.
To me there has never really been a mutual exclusivity between competing interpretations and reasonability. Topicality is fundamentally about comparing interpretations, and naturally in a competitive format, those interpretations tend to have points of contention. Reasonability is kind of a "gut check" test of the impacts vis-a-vis the standards. A strong comparison between proposed models of debate and the impact of including various affs within those is essential to demonstrate the negs impact, and without that section of the debate I find reasonability to be more persuasive. That said, I have never found myself in a position where I voted based on reasonability. Rather, an aff will usually win my ballot with over-limits style arguments while the neg will usually win my ballot with a solid TVA and a limits DA.
Topicality debates are often very messy to flow. Extra speaker points to debaters who efficiently organize concepts in these debates rather than throwing debate catch phrases around willy nilly.
DA's
Debaters should recognize the strengths and weaknesses of different impacts in the traditional timeframe, magnitude, probability frames. Your warming impact is not fast so stop wasting your time trying to convince me of that and spend it instead arguing about why magnitude is more important. Feel free to use novel impact evaluation frames outside these golden oldies, just explain why your frame makes sense for the context of the decision at hand.
The link is usually very important to me in these debates. The strength of the link determines if uniqueness can overwhelm it. Rarely will a disad already be literally happening, i.e. totally non-unique, but previous examples of things that should have triggered the link raise the bar for proving the plan is enough to cause a negative impact, and thus raise the threshold for the link.
Remember, a good DA alone can (and should) outweigh and turn the case. Cards are good here but definitely not necessary. Affs should be saying the same thing but in reverse.
CP's
Debating CP competition forces debaters to think about essential economic concepts like opportunity costs and decision making at the core of policy debate. I will try to keep a very open mind in judging debates about questionably competitive CP's to foster some of these educational values. The affirmative still has a strong gripe about many of these CP's being wholly unfair debate creations, and I find myself aff leaning in instances of multiple layers of CP "cheating"
That said, PIC's are not cheating, they are awesome and should be utilized. The aff should be forced to defend the entirety of the plan as necessary and good.
My general feeling about presumption is that it remains with the team who makes less overall change from the status quo unless you tell me specifically why you think it flips to you.
My feels on conditionality have shifted towards an understanding that all condo is ok UNLESS there are explicit contradictions in the conditional worlds that force the aff to read solvency for one to answer the other IE free market CP and a cap k.
Case debate
Impact D is a minimum and those who invest time in at the uq, link and internal link levels of an advantage will find it beneficial.
2A's must actually make an attempt to be flowed while they are on the case in the 2AC. Preferably, this is done by responding to the arguments made by the 1NC in the order that they were read.
I love impact turn debates.
K’s
I am K literate (in that I read them and went for them on a semi-regular basis) but not K fluent (No I haven’t read every Nietzsche and Baudrillard book) – that means that you should really invest time in explaining
1. Your Link – I say link because going for too many will probably hurt you on the depth of explanation
2. Your impact – what does social death/ bio-power/ exhaustion mean in the context of both the debate and the world
3. Your alt and why it resolves the previous two things
You should also be wary of perms that go beyond “do both”
The K needs to be functionally competitive so writing “reject the aff” in the tag of the card does not mean that they are mutually exclusive. Also saying all the links are DA’s to the perm is probably not true. I tend to think that for most alts, including the alt action after a plan or advocacy is probably sufficient to solve any residual links to the aff OR that the alt is too weak to overcome the status quo (I mean I was a 2A) - the Neg needs specific theory or a well-crafted link story to deal with this.
Oddly, these are the debates I see turning on technical problems most often. I think this is related to both sides talking past each other in a lot of these debates. Aff teams should be sure to not drop the standard tricks
Framework arguments are often central to my decisions in these debates. These issues often implicate what impacts are relevant to my decision, what an alternative should have to accomplish, and what link arguments a perm can solve. I think that most compromise framework formulations make negative sense, but if debaters agree to them I will do my best to resolve the debate as they have told me to.
Role of the ballot is a vague buzz phrase used to frame impacts – it is an empty signifier unless you explain what it means and why it is good. “dropping” a role of the ballot is impossible unless the team doesn’t extend an impact or a reason why voting for them is good in which case there are bigger problems than line by line efficiency.
Critical Aff's
I think that these affs are generally really cool ESPECIALLY when they involve a criticism of/ related to the topic. That is not to say that USFG action is at all necessary for my decision but rather that the negative should be able to read DA's based in some predictable literature. Example - On the emission topic, K affs shouldn't have to answer politics or the reg-neg CP but should have to answer coal / warming good type arguments. That is to say, the aff should have some defense of an attitude for or against the resolution and should be willing to answer for the implications of that attitude.
This is not to say that USFG framework will not win in front of me but rather that I generally think that most indicts of the state are factually true making this a hard debate to win. in this world, a discussion of how a topical defense of the state operates in relation to those indicts is in order IE is the neg interpretation a call to defend the whole thing or just a subset etc. Generally I am more likely to be persuaded by violations other than USFG. In that world it should be treated more as T - see above T section
Framework is engagement with the aff over the meta-issue of how debate should function in relation to the evaluation of the aff – a topical version is important for this because it can function as a CP that captures all the aff offense and has your T impacts as a net benefit. Without a T version I will probably find it difficult to vote neg because the aff will probably win some risk of offense that is bigger than whatever framework stuff you have. That said, the aff should probably have a well developed counter interp - I find framework debates that are well developed in this direction to be very fascinating and fun to be a part of. I also think that it is foolish for a negative to not engage the substance of the aff as the majority of the offense against their framework argument will originate there.
Competition questions are very difficult to resolve in many of these debates for critiques and counterplans. The less clear it is to me what the aff will defend, the more likely I will be persuaded by negative arguments against permutations.
It is likely that I will think that arguments that link to methodologies and their application outside of debate are relevant considerations to 1AC's unless they are explicit that their criticism applies only to the debate community. This is especially true if the negative argument is something that is a core topic impact turn.
Speaker Points
Make debate an enjoyable experience. Seriously, these people are willing to fly across the country to argue with you on weekends. Debate has an awesome group of people that combine intelligence and competitiveness in a way that is unique and incredible. I will use any scale published by the tournament. Most of your speaker points will be determined by the quality of debating done (which includes both answering and asking cross-x questions).
Hostility hurts your ethos and makes the round less enjoyable to judge. For example, when CX becomes a shouting match or there is blatant rudeness that occurs while your opponent is speaking, I get frustrated. This extends to repeated mis-gendering after you have been corrected, explicitly bigoted language, generally being an ass-hole etc. I'm not saying we all have to be friends but debate is a better activity when you can feel comfortable grabbing a drink with each other when its all said and done.
Clipping is a fast way to make me angry, as is giving the other team an incorrect version of the speech doc / one filled with your entire neg file that you skip around through. They have a right to follow along and check your reading of evidence. You can do it too. I won't have the speech documents in front of me so challenges will have to come from the debaters. I will follow the NDT guidelines as related to determining intent and impact. My intent is to uphold academic honesty. Those caught clipping will lose and get zero speaker points. The same is true for those whose allegations are proven false. A recording is required as evidence of clipping so that I have something to evaluate. The debate panoptican has become ever present enough to where this technical hurdle isn't too large.
Analytics don't have to be in the doc but should be if there is a legit access issue that is presented before the round
Sending docs is not prep time unless it becomes
a. obvious you are prepping
b. a ludicrous amount of time / attempts to get the right doc
feel free to email me with any questions
POLICY DEBATE PARADIGM
Name: Jamelle Brown
Current Affiliation: Sumner Academy of Arts & Science High School - Kansas City, KS
Debate Experience: 20+ years as a Head HS Coach, Debated 4 yrs in High School and 1 semester during college
List types of arguments that you prefer to listen to.
1. I appreciate real world impacts.
2. I love the kritical arguments/AFF’s with this year’s resolution. Make the debate real and connect to the real social issues in the SQ.
3. For T, neg if you want to prove that the AFF is untopical, provide valid standards and voters. AFF, then correctly answer these standards and voters. However, don't expect to win a ballot off T alone.
4. Know and understand what you are reading and debating. Be able to explain your card’s claims.
List types of arguments that you prefer not to listen to.
1. Every impact should not equal nuclear war. I want to hear realistic/real world impacts.
2. Generic disadvantages without clear links to the AFF.
List stylistics items you like to watch other people do.
1. I prefer medium-speed speaking. Completely not a fan of spreading.
2. Label and signpost for me. I like to keep a very organized flow!
3. Let me see your personalities in CX.
4. Impact Calc – I want to know why you want me to vote for you and weigh the round.
5. I am excited about performance teams!
List stylistics items you do not like to watch.
1. I dislike unrecognizable speed.
2. I am a Communications teacher, please allow me to see valuable communication skills. (Pre-2020 comment) For example, don’t just stare at your laptops for 8 minutes. Hello, I'm your judge – engage me!
In a short paragraph, describe the type of debate you would most like to hear debated.
Debate is a slice of life. I appreciate seeing a variety of styles and “risk takers.” Debate is also an educational venue. I enjoy K debate and appreciate high schoolers tackling K lit. There are so many important social justice issues that debaters can explore. As your judge, engage me into the round. I will not tolerate rude debaters or disrespectful personal attacks. I am a current high school Speech & Debate coach – please don’t forget about the value of communication skills! I coach all of the speech and debate events, so I love to see kids fully engaged in this activity by utilizing the real-world value it brings.
Zachary Brown
He/Him/His
zrbrown@gmail.com
Updated: Sept 2019
Background:
8 years debate experience 2000-2008 (Derby HS, Wichita State University)
11 years coaching experience 2007-2018 (Assistant coach- Wichita East HS, Wichita State University, Head Coach- Hutchinson HS)
I am no longer as active as I used to be and I have not coached or judged extensively for the last few years. Explain your topic acronyms and argument jargon.
I think the topic is important but what the "topic" means is open for discussion. Debate is an important forum and I support efforts to discuss ways to make the community better.
I feel that respect and inclusion are fundamental values. Be mindful of the people in the room. Be nice! I have no tolerance for rude, disrespectful, and exclusionary behavior. Don't like it? Strike me. Debate is a game. Play to win, but have fun!
I don't care what kind of arguments you make, just make it a good one. I am not impressed by teams who copy the latest trends and arguments from a college or national circuit wiki without fundamental knowledge on how to execute those arguments. I like innovative arguments and I've voted for some wild stuff, but know your argument and do it well. I appreciate gutsy decisions and well executed strategy. I miss case debate.
At the risk of being a luddite, I don't like to call for cards and I don't want to get your speech doc. Debate is a communication activity and too many debaters rely on the speech doc to make arguments that the were not clearly made in a speech. I don't want to read the evidence unless I have to. Usually if I call for a card that means that there is a fundamental disagreement about contents, suspicion of clipping, or unclear argumentation. Evidence quality matters a lot to me. The most underutilized skill in debate is good evidence comparison. Give me reasons to "prefer your evidence". It is the job of the debater to explain their arguments in a way that is understandable and flowable. Rate of delivery doesn't matter to me, but clarity does.
I know there is lots of other stuff to discuss. Just ask me before round if you have any questions.
6.2.5
I debated policy at Omaha Westside from 2009-2012. This is my 5th year coaching at Millard North.
Policy Paradigm
My national circuit experience is largely with critical debate. I'm more familiar with the identity side of things than postmodern, but I've gotten to a point where I feel comfortable understanding the majority of explanations of high theory arguments, even if a detail is lost here or there.
I think debates should emphasize debating and clash. Therefore, I am not a good judge for clash avoidant strategies and mental gymnastic competitions that proliferate underdeveloped arguments.
I prefer a combination of evidence and analysis over evidence dumps. Application of arguments, direct responses and comparative analysis should start before the final speech in front of me.
RoBs are often arbitrary and self-serving. I like them when they function as a point of clash that is essentially impact comparison between competing political approaches, ideologies, methods, etc. I don't like them when people think they win because the other team "dropped" the RoB because they didn't have a competing text despite the other team being ahead on the substance of the debate (links, impacts, solvency, whatever). If that's the case I'll probably vote for the team winning the substance.
I do not vote on cheap shots. Arguments are at least a claim and a warrant.
Disads, CPs, Ks, T – Default to offense/defense within reason. Complete defense is possible but highly unlikely. Turns case arguments get away with too much because silly internal links and magic alternatives aren’t challenged.
I’ve been less active this year so I’m not familiar with the truth(ier) side of topic disads and affs. Spin supported by evidence will go far. This will be the most disorienting on T because case lists will just be random case names to me, so emphasizing the quality of cases and debates for x and y reason will be especially important.
Framework –
Part A – General Thoughts
I have a slight aff side bias in the relatively few framework debates I’ve judged, but I think that has more to do with the average framework debater being conceptually behind the average k aff debater in framework debates than anything else.
That being said, I think the neg block on framework is the most commonly mediocre block in debate. They’re overly scripted, non-responsive, full of blippy jargony arguments that aren’t contextualized to the aff, and the 2NCs and 2NRs are almost identical to the speeches given in other debates against wildly different critical affs. It’s about as bad as when less experienced teams are learning to run 1 off Ks and read essays worth of blocks while doing no contextualized analysis.
I understand that framework is run to mitigate the neg prep pressure against the ballooning number of critical affs, but I think having somewhat specific case defense and adapting the block and 2NR direction according to the critical aff being faced is necessary. There's a lot of easily available quality evidence that is being underutilized.
I like critical affs, but framework can be necessary depending on team size, experience level and coaching expertise. The presence of framework also pressures critical affs to remain honest so they actually defend something worth debating. I think it’s a good argument when run well.
Part B – When I'm Judging
I think there are two main ways for the neg to collapse down when running framework. There’s the “policy-oriented debates produce skills necessary to anti-oppression politics, their form of debate does the opposite” 2NRs and the “debate is a game, limits explosion tanks predictability and denies core negative ground, competitive equity outweighs” 2NRs.
I think the former is more persuasive against affs that are heavily against state engagement, which makes a viable t version of the aff unlikely. Anti-state engagement affs also have access to sweeping impact turns that I think require mitigation outside of t version of the aff and ssd because they undermine competitive equity framing, which makes case defense and policy skills turns case arguments useful in the 2NR.
I think the latter is better vs. more soft-left affs that aren’t particularly anti-state but instead advocate a consciousness shift or some jargony jazz as a prerequisite to effective state action. It’s too easy for those affs to win they don’t suspend state engagement and only make engagement better through reckoning with x messed up thing, which opens up more persuasive t version of the aff claims and reasons why ssd leaves enough space in the neg’s model of debate to heavily mitigate aff offense.
For me, figuring out in cross-x of the 1AC how the aff relates to the state is vital, as many 1ACs can be read either way.
Neg blocks should not drop the 2AC overview that lists disads and uses case to turn framework. This is equivalent to dropping the block’s disad turns case overview. Debaters can win without answering it but why would they put themselves in that position?
I think the neg would benefit from explaining the t version of the aff similar to a counterplan, explaining how it solves individual parts of the aff or overlaps with the area of scholarship and then using offense elsewhere on framework to outweigh the specific “solvency deficits.”
LD Paradigm
I have little experience with national circuit LD. I’ve mostly judged locally. My national circuit experience in policy is mostly on the critical side, but I am more than comfortable with a good disad, cp case debate.
I can recognize some LD jargon but I don’t know what they actually mean. I don’t know what skep-triggers are or the permissibility vs presumption debate, and so on. I’m also not familiar with a lot of the moral theory. That being said, I can flow, follow and evaluate coherent arguments. This means there will be a higher threshold to effective explanation because I won’t be able to fill in the blanks or conceptually complete arguments for debaters because I don’t know what the best version of the arguments they’re making are.
I default to offense/defense within reason.
I’ve noticed I have a slight neg side bias when judging LD. I think this is mostly due to 1ARs having trouble and/or 2ARs collapsing to new arguments or unjustifiably new spins on previous arguments. 1ARs seem inefficient on case, especially when dealing with low quality arguments.
Generally speaking, remember that overadapting is not a good idea. You do you and I'll try my best to keep up.
Speed - Yes. Slow down when reading a flurry of analytics and don’t sacrifice clarity.
Theory – I'm accustomed to theory being read to discourage shadiness that would prevent effective debate, not as a mental gymnastics competition to avoid clash and substance.
1AR and 2NR restarts sound as vacuous as paragraph theory.
If evaluating a theory debate I’ll first look to whether fairness or education was determined as more important (or determine who won that debate is there was disagreement) then isolate each team’s links to it. Not all forms of education and fairness are created equal. Weigh critical vs policy education, topic specific education, cost-benefit analysis, structural in round fairness vs fairness in respect to oppression, etc. Some people would categorize those as just links to education or fairness. Regardless, invest time in them. Comparative analysis is everything.
Critical – Cool. Lack of an effective explanation of the method is the most common mistake.
College Policy: Emporia (2012) + KCKCC (2013-'15) | Sems Of CEDA, Doubles At NDT, Won NPDA (2015), Attended Weber Round Robin (2014) and Kentucky RR (2012).
High School Policy: 2009-'12 @ Millard South | 3 TOC Bids, Sems at Berkley, Won NE State CX (2012).
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I was primarily a Kritik debater in high school and a Performance/Method debater in college.
No matter the form or content that you are presenting, there are disads, permutations, impact turns, links, no-links, internal links, framework, topicality, sequencing, evidence comparison, and all that jazz to be had.
I am most comfortable in a Clash Of Civilizations (Traditional Vs. K) or K Vs. K debate, but I am open to adjudicating outside of my comfort zone, weighing all kinds of arguments, barring horrendous ones.
I find myself voting on framing, impacts, and internal links as a default. Clash - or contrast - matters.
I love unique spins on resolutions and flipping the script on debate conventions (be unique) while also *using* debate conventions (offense vs. defense, evidence, claim + warrant, comparisons, ethos/pathos/logos).
I have judged over a decade of LD (and even PF) at this point but it is still not my forte. Your jargon, or even how you view the debate in front of us, may be lost on me at times. Assume the worst and hedge, and we can get back on track.
For all debate styles: A good speech is a good speech, a great speech is an art form, and the epic totality of all your speeches should feel fresh, immersive, and have levels to it.
By the end of the debate, it's helpful for me if you emphasize clarity and substance above over-extending yourself on the flow, though you should 100% cover what you need on each flow.
Examples rock. Paint a picture. I'm a visual learner who benefits from repetition.
Show me the debater you are, and I will do due diligence to adapt. Play to your strengths.
Truth over tech (the line-by-line), but tech still matters greatly unless and until a cluster of arguments is formed and won that sets and sways the rhythm, tone, and flow of the debate.
Extend your arguments and evidence, not just your taglines, authors, and dates. Address when your opponent does the bare minimum.
I find that some teams don't capitalize enough on concessions or "moments" in debates, or they do so in a way that is merely surface-level. Use it to frame them out of the debate. Go all in (your mileage may vary).
Interact with the crux of their arguments - the best version of what they are saying - directly on the line-by-line and put offense and defense on the flow. Tilt the scales every chance you get. Control the line-by-line.
I try to flow cross-ex, but no guarantees. This is typically my favorite part of the debate.
Speed is fine. Whether it's good for your precise, situationally-dependent speech, or even just the point you are on, is an entirely other thing.
Clarity over speed, always. Especially for the last 3 speeches.
Seriously, slow down on taglines and analytics. Time constraints? I would rather you be strategic with your time than speed/throw everything at the wall, with the risk that little, if any, of it sticks.
I reward debaters via speaks when they a) start their rebuttal speeches with (valuable) overviews, b) take risks (bonus points when they pay off), c) keep the flows in order or at least mitigate the chaos of a million tiny arguments, and d) have great cross-ex's and bring that same energy and clarity for speeches.
I will disclose speaks if asked.
Don't let the debate get close.
I find that strategic usage of time in rebuttals can make or break a ballot, so I might suggest taking a breath to emphasize key factors in your debate.
Don't out-spread yourself trying to out-spread the opponent. A few well-developed, top-level arguments are better than a few blippy, under-developed shadow-extensions. Take that extra second to strategize the big picture before you dive in.
Of course, you could convince me to defer against my default paradigm.
Role Of The Ballot (ROTB) debates are more than just a blip; I invite both teams to interact with framework arguments in a meaningful way because they become lenses for evaluating everyone's impacts organically.
Consider informing me what my ballot does, and how I should evaluate the debate in front of us. Help me feel it with the weight and rhythm of your arguments. Be proactive on this front.
I want to be able to use what you said in your last speech to genuinely help make my decision. Spend time on the arguments that you are legitimately going for.
Going too fast is just as bad as going too slow.
Yes, you can ask questions during prep.
Run your own prep time.
Email chain is preferred for sharing cards, and I do read the cards. I may ask for you to send all cards you go for in last rebuttal at end of debate.
Email: mattc743@gmail.com
Most of all, just try to have fun.
Associate Director of Debate @ Greenhill
Still helping KU in my free time
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I love debate and I will do my absolute best to make a decision that makes sense and give a helpful RFD.
Topicality
Competing interpretations are easier to evaluate than reasonability. You need to explain to me how we determine what is reasonable if you are going for reasonability.
Having said that if your intep is so obscure that there isn't a logical CI to it, perhaps it is not a good interpretation.
T debates this year (water topic) have gotten too impact heavy for their own good. I've judged a number of rounds with long overviews about how hard it is to be negative that never get to explaining what affirmatives would be topical under their interp or why the aff interp links to a limits DA and that's hard for me because I think much more about the latter when I think about topicality.
T-USFG/FW
Affirmatives should be about the topic. I will be fairly sympathetic to topicality arguments if I do not know what the aff means re: the topic after the 1AC.
I think teams are meming a bit on both sides of this debate. Phrases like "third and fourth level testing" and "rev v rev debates are better" are kind of meaningless absent robust explanation. Fairness is an impact that I will vote on. Like any other impact, it needs to be explained and compared to the other team's impact. I have also voted on arguments about ethics, education, and pedagogy. I will try my best to decide who wins an impact and which impact matters more based on the debate that happens.
I do not think the neg has to win a TVA to win topicality; it can be helpful if it happens to make a lot of sense but a forced TVA is generally a waste of time.
If the aff is going for an impact turn about debate, it would be helpful to have a CI that solves that impact.
DA’s
I would love to see you go for a disad and case in the 2NR. I do not find it persuasive when an affirmative team's only answer to a DA is impact framing. Impact framing can be important but it is one of a number of arguments that should be made.
I am aware the DA's aren't all great lately. I don't think that's a reason to give up on them. It just means you need a CP or really good case arguments.
K's
I really enjoy an old-fashioned k vs the aff debate. I think there are lots of interesting nuances available for the neg and the aff in this type of debate. Here are some specific thoughts that might be helpful when constructing your strategy:
1. Links of omission are not links. Links of “commission” will take a lot of explaining.
2. Debating the case matters unless there is a compelling framework argument for why I should not evaluate the case.
3. If you are reading a critique that pulls from a variety of literature bases, make sure I understand how they all tie to together. I am persuaded by aff arguments about how it's very difficult to answer the foundation of multiple bodies of critical literature because they often have different ontological, epistemological, psychoanalytic, etc assumptions. Also, how does one alt solve all of that??
4. Aff v. K: I have noticed affirmative teams saying "it's bad to die twice" on k's and I have no idea what that means. Aff framework arguments tend to be a statement that is said in the 2AC and repeated in the 1AR and 2AR - if you want fw to influence how I vote, you need to do more than this. Explain how it implicates how I assess the link and/or alternative solvency.
5. When ontology is relevant - I feel like these debates have devolved into lists of things (both sides do this) and that's tough because what if the things on the list don't resonate?
CP's
Generic counterplans are necessary and good. I think specific counterplans are even better. Counterplans that read evidence from the 1AC or an aff author - excellent! I don't have patience for overly convoluted counterplans supported by barely highlighted ev.
I do not subscribe to (often camp-driven) groupthink about which cp's "definitely solve" which aff's. I strongly disagree with this approach to debate and will think through the arguments on both sides of the debate because that is what debate is about.
Solvency deficits are a thing and will be accounted for and weighed along with the risk of a DA, the size of the DA impact, the size of the solvency deficit, and other relevant factors. If you are fiating through solvency deficits you should come prepared with a theoretical justification for that.
Other notes!
Some people think it is auto-true that politics disads and certain cp's are terrible for debate. I don't agree with that. I think there are benefits/drawbacks to most arguments. This matters for framework debates. A plan-less aff saying "their model results in politics DA's which is obviously the worst" will not persuade absent a warrant for that claim.
Love a good case debate. It's super under-utilized. I think it's really impressive when a 2N knows more about the aff evidence than the aff does.
Please don't be nasty to each other; don't be surprised if I interrupt you if you are.
I don't flow the 1AC and 1NC because I am reading your evidence. I have to do this because if I don't I won't get to read the evidence before decision time in a close debate.
If the debate is happening later than 9PM you might consider slowing down and avoiding especially complicated arguments.
If you make a frivolous or convoluted ethics challenge in a debate that I judge I will ask you to move on and be annoyed for the rest of the round. Legitimate ethics challenges exist and should/will be taken seriously but ethics challenges are not something we should play fast and loose with.
For debating online:
-If you think clarity could even possibly be an issue, slow down a ton. More than ever clarity and quality are more important than quantity.
-If my camera is off, I am not there, I am not flowing your speech, I probably can't even hear you. If you give the 1AR and I'm not there, there is not a whole lot I can do for you.
Clint "C.J." Clevenger
School: None
Years Judging: 10+
Rounds on Topic: 0
Last Updated 2023
ImportantUpdate: For those who don't know, I have stopped officially coaching and judging at this point, which means that I have stopped cutting cards and keeping a detailed account of the topic, I might not even know the topic at this point. For those of you filling out prefs who might recognize my name from years ago (you are probably a coach now) who have had me previously as a judge and were accustomed to me being deeply on top of the topic, consider this fair warning.
General:I enjoy watching very technical debates with good strategies. This guide is to get you to a point to win the debate with the best speaker points possible. Arguments need to pass the common sense test (i.e. the use of logic)…There are 3 parts of an argument Claim, Warrant, and Data, your arguments need to use all 3, otherwise they cease to be arguments. It helps to point out missing items of these if you are the opposing team. FLOW!FLOW! FLOW! FLOW! My flow is a written account of the debate and how I make my decision. You should be flowing the debate and use the line by line to answer arguments that the other team is making.
Clarity: SLOW DOWN!!! You are not as clear as you think you are! I don’t call for many cards (read almost zero) unless I need them to clarify and argument or compare the warrants that were discussed by teams. I don’t think it is my job to read your evidence to determine what it says. I do think it is YOUR job as a debater to communicate both with me and the other team what that evidence says and means. Speech docs are not an alternative to your spoken word. I expect to be able to understand every word that you say. The text of the evidence that you read is the most important thing you read in debate because it is what gives you the warrants to win debates in front of me. I think debaters would be well advised to slow down to 85% of their top speed, because you are not as clear as you think you are. Important notes: I will call clear if I can’t understand you twice. After that I will give non-verbal signals like putting my pen down and staring at you. You should take this as a clue that I have quit flowing your arguments and they at that point cease to be arguments in my mind in the round. Your speaker points will suffer if I am yelling clear. Debaters should feel free to make arguments during their speech about the clarity of an argument that the other team made, I will give non-verbals if I agree or not. This is a good way to show me two things: 1. that you are listening to the speech and not just reading the speech doc and 2. that you are probably flowing. Both of which are likely to help your speaker points.
Voting Speed:I have been told that I vote very quickly. Most of the time I already know what the nexus issues in the debate are that I have to resolve for me to make a decision, once I have identified these, decisions come quickly. If you want to win, I would recommend you start to identify them as well. Often times I do not call for cards. This is because I am not going to sort through your evidence to find the warrants in it to support your arguments. You should be doing this work not me. If you are not doing it, that is probably a reason that you will lose the debate. This is a spoken activity; I listen to all of the speech, not just the tags. I do this because I want to list to what your evidence actually says (you know the warrants you are supposedly reading that you have not highlighted out of them). I expect clarity through the entire speech, if you are not able to perform this, then you are wasting your breath. I flow warrants of evidence and I also flow the Cross-X.
Topicality:Competing interpretations really make sense to me. Reasonability seems pretty circular. I am a judge will to vote on T. The biggest problem that I see in T debates is the lack of internal link and impact work in the standards debate. Painting a picture for me of what the topic looks like under your interpretation (usually large or small) and WHY that interpretation is best for debate is the simplest that I can break it down. Too often teams just say, here is our interp and we/they are in/out of it. That is not enough, because the inclusion/exclusion of one case does not make a topic. It is all of the other things that your interp allows/excludes that make the topic, it is really just happenstance that it excludes/includes the affirmative.
Kirtiks:I am getting there. I have read some lit now, I am coming along slowly. Still think I am not the best judge for the K, but there is not an ideological predisposition for voting against it. Read more below on the "performance" debate section about teams that want to pref me who go for the K. I think the same things apply here as well. Sometimes I get lost, once I am lost, like most people I tend to seek ground in debates that I am familiar with, this probably means aff arguments like No V2L without Life and case outweighs or permutation arguments.
Performance/Non-Resolution Engaging AFFs: In my ideal world I think the Affirmative should defend some form of engagement of the resolution. My predisposition does not require the defending of a "plan" but does incline me to believe that the AFF should certainly engage the idea that there should be an (insert action of the resolution here) Now, saying that I think the AFF should engage the resolution does not mean they have to, nor do I have a predesignated will to vote against teams that choose not to. I will and have listened to debates about the state of debate and other things. The difference in my comfort has to do with a level of understanding of arguments. I will be honest. The more often I am prefed into these debates and watch them I think the better understanding I will have for the arguments, allowing me to develop a better skill set as a judge. If you are a team chooses to debate in this style, I understand the perceived risk in prefing me, I will definitely say I am not a perfect judge for this style of debate right now, but to be clear - this is a statement of a willingness to learn and expand upon my capabilities as a judge. So on that note - I appreciate the opportunity you have given me to both broaden and sharpen my skills.
Theory:Still have yet to hear a good reason that makes sense for conditionality, especially when used in conjunction with contradictory arguments. I spend a lot of time coaching and thinking about theory. I actually don’t mind theory debates. I give 2ARs and 1ARs a little more leeway in going for theory, but the argument still needs to be there for the 2AR from the 1AR. I want to hear a warrant for your argument not 7 points of blip. I think 3 good warranted arguments are better than 7 sentences about 7 different things. That being said, plenty of people run conditional arguments in front of me, and it still takes the right arguments from the AFF to win conditionality debates. That being said I think I voted AFF on condo bad when the AFF went for it in the 2AR (does not need to be the whole speech, but you need to invest some time to get it done) probably around 80% of the time. Most of the other theory questions you have about CPs will be answered below.
Counter-Plans:I think most CPs are legit. You should have some form of solvency advocate for your CP. Evidence about the link to the net-benefit is not a solvency advocate. In these instances lit checks abuse for the most part. Be willing to spend time talking about the impact. So be willing to do an impact comparison that "if I reject the argument not the team, then they d/n have a cp to solve case, which was conceded by the 2NR and it outweighs their net-benefit without a CP" This will get you a very long way. NEG read the inverse if you think you are schooling them on the rest of the debate and this is their only way out, a little preempt will go a long way to better speaks. Consult CPs/Condition CPs/PICs are a different monster. AFFs too often fail to debate or understand the normal means, that can get them out of a lot of the consult debates. PICs out of words are probably not the best strat in front of me. There are a TON of CPs on this topic, and there is zero reason why we should not debate them. International fiat is a risky endeavor. I can be sold either way.
Rebuttals (specifically 2NR/2AR):This is where you should be comparing impacts for me and explaining how I should vote. A good impact comparison does more than just magnitude, timeframe, and whatever.. it actually compares your impact risk in relation to their impact risk. Reality is you are not winning all of your arguments. You will start to lose fewer debates once you can realize what arguments that you are and are not losing. This is the speech that you have to think like a judge. The tag line in the rebuttals is not an argument, you need to be drawing distinctions between the text of your authors and theirs and giving me reasons why your evidence or analysis answers their arguments and theirs does not answer yours and what that means to me in how I should evaluate those claims. Seem like a lot to do? Really helps if you are setting this up in the block and 1AR. Just remember that if I have to do work for you, you might not like the outcome…..
Speaker Points:Some have asked me about how I assign speaker points. So the things I think about when I am assigning speaker points are (in no particular order), clarity, delivery, style, strategy, success, how bad you made my flow look (I flow unlike you. My flow is how I decide the debate, the more painful you make my life the more pain I inflict on your speaker points. Line-by-line argumentation is good, and is a dying art. Note: this is about the umpteenth reference in my judging philosophy to flowing...it might be important!
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Artistically I'm a modernist. So Escher, Greek appeals, etc. James Joyce's Ulysses is perhaps most idyllic of this kind of formalism. I include this as an affront to you, the debaters', intellect. Here's dessert: if you feel like attacking me personally cut cards from Tiqqun's Theory of Bloom which is, of course, a postmodern critique of the aforementioned worldview.
I debated for Missouri State for about 3 and a half years. Before that I debated at Central High School in Springfield, MO.
To be honest I've never liked the idea of paradigms, even though I've found them helpful in certain situations. It seems to me that once someone writes (or types) down an orientation towards a particular argument it becomes easier for them to justify blowing off other arguments that aren't perceptually compatible with that crystallization. With that being said I do recognize that everyone has predispositions about debate, especially if you've been in it for long enough, so, here are mine.
T- It's best to have examples of in round abuse. Also make sure to tell me what types of aff's they justify, and why that's unpredictable and/or undebatable. Theoretical RVI's probably won't get you that far. Critical RVI's are more persuasive.
DA- Link walls are great, and try to do comparative impact calculus. If UQ isn't contested I'll assume that the status squo is resolving the internal link. There can most definitely be 0 risk (which applies to the Aff as well).
CP- Not much to say here. Make sure it solves the aff. I'm inclined to think most are legit but I can be persuaded otherwise. As a side note I think abusive fiat (International, States, Utopian) theory is cool and underused. Advantage CP's with an impact turn as a NB is an interesting 2NR.
Conditionality- 2 is fine, 3 is pushing it, 4 is probably overboard.
K's- I'm familiar with a good amount of this literature but by no means an expert. Contextualize the link and connect alt solvency to the impacts. Links of ommission are fine but keep in mind it makes the perm for the aff much more viable. Also for high theory rounds be sure to articulate the internal link to your impact. A lot of the times the links are about debate practices but the impacts are macropolitical, there's obviously a difference there in terms of scale, so the interpretive task is to synthesize a connection between the two.
Non-traditional- Form is just as important as content because the two are mutually reinforcing (co-constituitive). Filter the impacts through the framework interp and tell me what my role as the judge is.
Line-by-line is best, but embedded clash is also a thing so arguments are rarely conceded. I try to judge based solely off the flow (unless that's contested), but if evidence specificity becomes an issue I'll read the stuff.
Theory- Non-disclosed new affs must use their 1AC as a weapon. This is a necessary subtley given pre-conditionality and evidence comparison.
In-round DA's/cheating- be aware that my mind has static.
Presumption is also very important in my mind. But that means different things for different rounds.
Finally I'm fascinated by the notion of not casting a ballot at all. Competition is not inevitable. They can't make me pick a winner if ya'll decide that there shouldn't be losers. "If your beliefs are different than mine, than we gonna fight. Who needs peace when you can profit from being right?"
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Linda M. Collier, The Barstow School
25+ years coaching—
Please ask questions before the round if these remarks don't answer your questions.
Paperless debate—love it. Stealing prep time—hate it. I won’t run prep while you are jumping your speeches, but that means everyone stops prepping while the files are being transferred. Email chains are great solution.
Two reasons you should slow down--1. I'm hearing impaired and wear two hearing aids. 2. I’m old fashioned and flow by hand. That means you need to slow down.
I’m also old fashioned in that I prefer a policy approach. I’ll listen to all of the arguments and evidence presented, but if you need to win on theory, T, or a critical argument rather than an evaluation of the case v. the cp, disad + case defense, or impact turns, or any cost/benefit approach; make sure you take my preferences into account when you are comparing your arguments with those of your opponents. The Trump administration is insane. That doesn't mean you shouldn't use politics arguments, but I have some pretty fixed ideas. I'll do my best to be objective, but...
Debaters should use less jargon and explain their arguments in relationship to the competing arguments. In fact, I suggest that when you answer arguments you read less new evidence and instead make more nuanced explanations of the distinctions and warrants in your original cards. That doesn’t mean NEVER read new cards, just that you should read the best evidence first rather than last.
Debate is about comparisons--the more you make on the way toward drawing sound conclusions, the better.
Enjoy yourselves and debate well--
Debated four years for Lawrence Free State High School, did not pursue debate in college. I judged four rounds on this topic at WaRu in September.
My general approach to rounds is that it is your job to win my ballot, and you should do that in whatever way you feel most comfortable with. I'm willing do vote on lots of different things for different reasons, what matters is that you crystallize your advocacy in a clear way and tell me why it means you win. I default policymaker, but it is your job to articulate the framework in which you want me to vote, and if you do that I'm pretty much willing to vote however you tell me to (provided you're winning that argument).
Mechanics
- delivery: speed is fine. Clarity is far more important than speed, and I encourage you to go at the speed you're comfortable with rather than trying to spread for the hell of it, but at the end of the day speed is not going to be an obstacle to my understanding of your speech. I will yell clear if you are not clear.
- Signposting: please have a clear line-by-line. It is infinitely easier to judge a debate if the debaters make arguments by responding directly to the previous speech instead of just reading straight down and leaving me to pick up the pieces. I don't want to have to draw arrows from an argument to its response.
Types of arguments
- kritiks: kritiks are fine. My only demand is that every kritik must have a clear, textual alternative. And "reject the aff" isn't an alt, it's what I do when I agree with the alt.
- CP/DA's: I prefer specificity (who doesn't?) but generics are fine as long as you do the work.
- performance: this is fine, just please identify the function of the ballot and the framework you want me to vote in as quickly and clearly as possible.
- Theory: it should have its own page on the flow. Same with framework.
At the end of the day, I want to see the 2nd rebuttals get up and point to a specific point on the flow and give me a clear, convincing reason to vote there. Clear, compelling impact framing on specific issues goes a long way in final speeches. Don't try to win on a bunch of things, pick one good thing and win on it. Do that in whatever way you choose.
I'll be happy to answer any questions before the round.
I debated for four years in high school, went to nationals a few times. I havent debated since 2014 but i have been judging and am a assistant coach for BVN high school
I have read a variety of arguments in debate and will listen to any arguement. in terms of "paragim" I think that I default policy maker. My favorite debates are deep T debates, k debates, and huge impact turn debates like Heg and dedev.
I have never been in or watched a debate of high schoolers who spoke too quickly for me to understand, but have been in plenty where the debaters sacrificed clarity for speed. if you are hard to understand because you sacrificed clarity for speed it wont be my fault if you think you made arguments and I dont have them written down and you lose. debate is as much about communication as it is about good arguments
Ks.
I read Ks a lot in high school and a good critical argument is one of my favorite things to hear in a debate. That being said I also have a good background knowledge for almost anything; I am a philosophy major at the University of Kansas so you can pull out your deeply metaphysical K infront of me if you want and I will be able to understand the vocabulary and concepts but I will expect good explanations of how/what specifically about the aff links and how the alt resolves those things. This means that there should be some good explanation of why the alt is preferable to the status quo and what the implications of the impacts are to me and/or to the aff.
CPs.
I was not much of a counterplan reader in debate and am not very familiar with the counterplans on this topic either. I don't really have much to say here except make sure that you read the plan text clearly so that i know what the plan is and make sure that there is clear analysis on why the counterplan solves the aff.
T.
I love T debates if they are done well. I default to competing interpretations and I don't think that in round abuse is necessary to win the debate, although I think that in round abuse is certainly a helpful argument to be made. definition and standards comparison is a must to win this debate and a list of topical affs is really important for the negative. Without those two things the threshold I have for voting on reasonability drops significantly.
Critical Affs.
I think that critical affs can be very good arguments. I think that the k aff should have some focuse on the resolution because i think that predictability and the negative ground are important for debates and if the affirmative does not provide either of those things then there should be some good reasons why.
# of years debated in HS 4
# of years debated in College 4 What College/University University of Central Missouri
Currently a (check all that apply) X Head HS Coach
____College Coach X College Debater
____Debate Fan who regularly judges HS debate
# of rounds on this year’s HS Topic 12
What paradigm best describes your approach to debate?
_____Policy Maker X Stock Issues _____Tabula Rasa
_____Games Player _____Hypothesis Tester _____Other (Explain)
What do you think the Aff burdens should be?
The Affirmative has the burden of proof to support the resolution
What do you think the Neg burdens should be?
The Negative has presumption, but they should argue both on and off case.
How I feel about delivery (slow vs. fast)?
This is a communication event.
How I feel about generic Disads, Counter Plans, Kritiks?
I will listen to DA, CP, and K. However, I am not interested in perfomance debate--please adapt.
How I feel about case debates?
the Affirmative MUST win case.
Other Comments/Suggestions:
Darren Elliott "Chief" --Director of Debate and Forensics Kansas City KS Community College
delliott@kckcc.edu
Probably the least interventionist judge you will encounter. Will listen to and fairly consider any argument presented. (Avoid obvious racist and sexist arguments and ad Homs). For an argument to be a round winner you need to win the impact the argument has in relation to the impacts your opponent might be winning and how all of those affect/are afffected by the ballot or decision (think framework for the debate). No predispositions against any strategy be it a Disad/CP/Case or K or T/Framework on the Neg or a straight up policy or K Aff. Win what it is you do and win why that matters. I actually appreciate a good Disad/CP/Case Offense debate as much as anything (even though the arguments a number of recent KCKCC debaters might lead one to think otherwise). The beauty of debate is its innovation.
I appreciate in-depth arguments and hard work and reward that with speaker points. A debate that begins in the first couple of speeches at a depth that most debates aspire to be by the last two speeches is a work of art and shows dedication and foresight that should be rewarded. Cross-X as well, in this regard, that shows as good or better of an understanding of your opponents arguments as they do will also be rewarded. Cross-X is a lost art.
Most of all--Have Fun and Good Luck!!
I will not vote for a team that tells their opponents to kill themselves, or harm themselves in any way. Please don't use excessive cursing during rounds, it appears unprofessional. I do vote on stock issues if run properly, and don't mind watching a good topicality debate from time to time.
Name: Kyle Ellis
School: Derby
# of years debated in HS? 3 What School? Mulvane
# of years debated in College? 1 What College/University? Wichita State
# of rounds on this year’s HS Topic ____
What paradigm best describes your approach to debate? Tabula Rosa
How I feel about delivery (slow vs. fast)? Slower on tags, everything else can be as rapid as possible as long as you're not clipping.
How I feel about generic Disads, Counter Plans, Kritiks? They're acceptable.
How I feel about case debates? Case debates should be the core of the round, but don't have to be.
Other Comments/suggestions: I'll listen to anything. I just need to be given a way to evaluate and understand the positions and how they interact together.
Anything else, ask in round.
Please include me in the email thread:
brettgillysja@gmail.com
I believe that debate is a game. I will not shift from that position. This does not mean that any form of debate is better than another. But it does mean that making individuals feel bad about themselves, and intimidating individuals is not necessary. The debate round is one among many and is NOT a matter of life and death. It should be a fun but competitive game.
I believe the most important part of debate is impacts. If left with no argumentation about impacts or how to evaluate them I will generally default to look for the biggest impact presented. I appreciate debate that engages in what the biggest impact means, and/or if probability and timeframe are more important. This does not simply mean “policy impacts”, it means any argument that has a link and impact. You could easily win that the language used in the round has an impact, and matters more than the impacts of plan passage. All framing questions concerning what comes first have impacts to them, and therefore need to be justified. The point is, whether you are running a Kritik, or are more policy based, there are impacts to the assumptions held, and the way you engage in politics (plan passage governmental politics, or personal politics). Those impacts need to be evaluated. I can't not make this clear enough the framing of which impacts matter is extremely important if you win the framing question then I will easily default on your impacts if you have them.
Role of the ballot- this to me is just framing for the impacts. So it's really really really hard for me to vote on this even if it's dropped but that's doesn't mean don't answer it.
I also prefer that teams explain their arguments so that a macro level of the argument is explained (Meaning a cohesive story about the uniqueness, link, or link and alternative are also necessary). This means piecing together arguments across flows and explaining how they interact with one another. My threshold for the possibility for me to vote on your argument is determined by whether or not I can explain why the other team lost.
I'm good with policy arguments. I've started to learn I lean more on smart analytical arguments to beat stuff but if they have evidence that says other wise I will default to the evidence. This is where spin becomes extremely important. It is possible to beat the majority of a da without a card but evidence helps a lot.
With links I think it's pretty hard to win 0 risk of the link and as I said above impact is where I judge most of my debates on.
A dropped argument is a dropped argument but you still need to extend it in a way that I understand it for me to vote on it. You don't need to spend much time on it but more than "they dropped smith 03 that takes out the uniqueness." Explain why it does and why it matters to me in my judging of the round.
Quirks with Counterplans- I think conditionality can get out of hand. When conditionality does get out of hand it should be capitalized by the affirmative as justification to do equally shady/cheating things and/or be a justification to vote against a team, again up for debate.
My preset ideas on condo is 2 world's is generally acceptable usually a k and cp. T is not a world and nor are Das. This doesn't mean I will vote against you on condo if you have 3 world's by any means this goes back to debate is a game. Win condo if you have to and your game.
Kritiks- I enjoy Kritiks. Be aware of my threshold for being able to explain to the other team why they lost. This means it is always safer to assume I’ve never read your literature base and have no idea what you are talking about. The best way to ensure that I’m understanding your argument is to explain them with a situations that will exemplify your theory AND to apply those situations and theories to the affirmative.
Framework- I will evaluate framework in an offense defense paradigm. Solely impacting or impact turning framework will rarely win you the debate. You will need offense & defense to win framework debates in front of me. Its an issue that I believe should be debated out and the impact calculus on the framework debate should determine who I vote for.
Framework on the negative for me is also can have and act like a counter advocacy that the problems isolated by the affirmative can be helped by engaging the state. Topical version help prove how engaging the state can create better and meaningful changes in the world. There should also be historical and/or carded explanations as to why engaging the state can help with the problems of the 1ac.
I believe analytic arguments that prove no I/L's are pretty persuasive especially when using the other teams evidence as the basis. (That doesn't mean I will vote on just defense)
If you are worried I lean one way or the other on the clash of civs, I have ran every type of argument in debate (from preformance and narrative to big stick and terminal impacts turns to any mixture of them, such as policy with narratives) and I think all styles of debate are important and have their purpose.
Clash of Civilization Debates- I seem to almost exclusively judge these debates, which means I have seen a lot of them and here is what I am looking for. 1) Warranted arguments. 2) Good clash, don't just read your blocks answer the specifics to their arguments. 3) (which is basically an emphasis of 2) In-depth debates on why your style is good and why theirs is bad. I feel like without those things it's to easy for teams to win on "cheap shots" which just makes the round frustrating for me as a judge and for the team that loses, if you produce good clash, in most rounds, chances are I will vote for you.
Theory- I find it difficult to vote on theory unless it's clearly abusive and is a bad frame for debate. But as I said before go for it if you want just win it.
Cross Examinations- I do not flow these, but I do pay attention, while I don't necessary they are binding, I do believe that if you say something you will generally be held to what you said in cross x especially when it effects the other teams strategy. This is you're time to get links and find holes in their arguments/evidence, use it well because cross x is a huge part of how I determine speaker points. That being said, being unnecessary hostile in cross x will generally mean lower speaker points, If you are straight up rude you're rude (especially when you are factually incorrect about something but try to bolster that you know more than they do).
I won't read evidence during speeches but will follow during cross x and might look at them after round. (Yes I will check when you say a card is terrible or really good)
Experience: 4 years of NDT-CEDA/2 years of NFA-LD at Missouri State, mostly reading policy arguments. 2 years of coaching NDT-CEDA/NFA-LD at Missouri State.
Currently: 2nd year law student @ University of Minnesota Law School
Contact: joehamaker [at] gmail.com. Put me on the chain. If you have questions about an RFD or my judging philosophy, feel free to reach out.
My goal is to resolve arguments made by debaters to form a coherent decision about the issue that the debaters have decided upon. I have predispositions but I will try hard to evaluate the debate outside of those because debate is for debaters. I list preferences below, but nearly all of them are contingent.
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Frivolous theory. I do not want to vote on your spec arguments, RVIs, disclosure theory, solvency advocate theory, or similar gobbledygook.* I do not think these arguments have educational merit. This is an exception to my general inclination to be open to all arguments. Be warned: I might not vote on it even these arguments even if they are dropped by the other team, unless you make a serious time commitment and explain to me why your argument is different.
*This does not include: topicality, condo, reasons why specific types of CPs/alts are bad (e.g. conditions CPs, floating PIKs).
Other NFA stuff. Speed is generally fine but don't exclude the opponent. Arguing based on the rules is unpersuasive. NR should collapse and make strategic decisions.
Process
When I evaluate debates, I first identify nexus questions which the debaters have decided upon in the 2NR/2AR. Then, I determine arguments both sides have made on each nexus point and check my flow to assess whether they are sufficiently represented in previous speeches. Next, I evaluate the strength of the arguments of both sides. Often at this step, I will think through the implications of voting for both sides and the complications involved. Sometimes, this will cause me to reevaluate who I think is winning the debate. Finally, I determine who I think won the debate and write a paragraph (or more) of explanation.
It is difficult for me to decide debates which do not clearly identify nexus questions. When I have to determine them, it might work in or against your favor. This is a recipe for frustration for all involved; clear identification and engagement with the nexus questions is the best way to resolve that problem. I should also be able to explain, using language similar to that which is present in the 2NR/2AR, why I should vote for you and vote against the other team. If I cannot make that explanation, it will be more difficult for me to vote for you.
Incomplete list of advice/preferences/thoughts
- I (usually) flow cross-ex because it is binding
- Slow down on overviews and theory
- Tech > truth, but truth is important and doesn't always require a card
- "No perm in method v method debates" requires more explanation than most offer
- Zero risk of an impact is very rare but not impossible
- Stop taking prep outside of speech/prep time
- Make the implications of arguments and cross-applications clear, especially when they span multiple sheets. I should not have to do that work for you.
- Be swift with paperless
- Be caring of your partner and the other team
Harris, Bradley. (Senior at the University of Kansas). Debated 3 Years at Lawrence Free State high school, 4 years University of Kansas.
(TLDR version: look at the bold)
Be smart and make smart arguments, smart true analytics are infinitely more persuasive than a slew of bad cards.
Be nice. Be polite and respectful, not just to each other, but to the room, having space for the activity is a privilege.
Debate should be fun and humor is appreciated. It is a communication and educational activity.
I'll be relaxed about jump time unless it's egregious. If it is then prep time stops when the flash drive comes out of the computer.
I shouldn't have to say it but be ethical, don't clip, don't cheat.
I realize most of you just care if you can read your K aff, K, T, or spread. Go for it. I believe I should work my hardest to make the best decision I can because debaters work hard. I also believe you should do what you do best and that I should try and keep my predispositions from getting in the way.
"Boring" argument specific predispositions mostly paraphrased from the people who have influenced my view of debate.
I'll default to offense/defense unless told otherwise when evaluating most arguments.
Impact calculus should be done, so should explanations of link and solvency differentials.
Topicality/Framework - it's a voting issue, not a reverse voting issue. Interpretations matter. Reasonability is less persuasive to me in most cases. Yes limits are an impact, no I don't think limits are violent. Typically I believe affirmatives should defend some instance of the resolution.
Counterplans/DAs/Case debate - Yes please. I'm willing to say 0% risk of something if there is a sufficient argument made. See above comment on link/solvency analysis. Solvency advocates are important.
Theory - Warrant and impact please. Not my favorite thing to vote on but I will if necessary.
Specific predispositions:
Conditionality - Good
PICs - Good
Consult/Condition - context specific (probably should have a solvency advocate)
Delay - Aff leaning
Word PICs - Aff leaning
Non US actors - Probably aff leaning.
Kritiks/Critical Affirmatives - Assume I'm not super deep into your literature base. I've read/gone for/voted for them. I think they are strategic. You should contextualize your links as well as explanations of the alternative vs the perm and case. You also should have more than a link of omission. I prefer critical affirmatives that have a tie to the resolution, it's not impossible for you to win that it shouldn't be, see T/FW above.
If you're doing an email chain please include bradleyharris14@gmail.com
Mike Harris
Wichita Southeast
Online norms - Be nice and have fun. Clean tech makes me happy. Fast is not always the best when it becomes unclear. I flow your speech, not your speech docs, especially after the 1AC/1NC.
2020-2021 Update : One of my undergraduate degrees is criminal justice. I'm well versed in both theory and procedures. I've hosted guest lectures this season with speakers on Police militarization and the Use of Force, Death Penalty, and "The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Color Blindness". I have a federal court judge scheduled to speak. My knowledge level is high, which means your arguments are going to have to be explained correctly to persuade me most effectively. Truth is important on this topic, especially when making claims to solve structural problems at a value level.
I have significant experience in the past 15 years judging many tournaments both in Kansas and around the nation. I am the Director of Debate at Wichita East in Wichita. I have multiple students currently competing in the NDT/CEDA, and Parli circuits in colleges across the country. We have had many national qualifiers in policy debate in recent years . I coached the 2nd and 3rd place teams at NCFL, had three teams in the top 30 at NSDA and coached the 7th place team and a top ten speaker, and had two teams qualified for the TOC. I have been exposed to many teams and styles from across the nation. Below is a brief explanation of some of my judging preferences. This is by no means a complete explanation, so feel free to ask specific question regarding my paradigm:
I'm a tabula rasa judge as much as that exists and you will need to address framing in this debate to win my ballot. DOn't care of it's K v K, clash of covs, or policy debates.
Speed - No preference as long as you are clear. I can keep up on the flow with any team although I do not believe that extreme speed is required to win. I prefer clarity and quality argumentation to speed. With that said, I most enjoy a quality high speed round that combines the above traits.
Kritik's - Literature is essential to quality kritik arguments. I do not have any problem with performance k's or kritikal aff's. I'm familiar with kritikal identity and postmodern lit. I am a glutton for solid evidence and I know that the literature exists. Be prepared to explain the literature clearly and succinctly. I have a philosophy degree although I am quite a few years removed from in-depth study of the literature.
CP's - If it solves the for the aff advantages and has a net benefit I'm good. I'm solid on theory. Not often do I reject a team on theory.
Topicality- My threshold for topicality is high. That said, I have voted on T in very significant out rounds when I don't feel it has been covered appropriately, and it is extended effectively. T must be impacted out and weighed to be a factor in my decision. I've judged a lot of debates for a long time, and seen debate go through a lot. Be specific and focus on t what would happen if this specific aff is allowed. I have interesting perspectives on the concept of fairness.
Disads - I am particularly interested in strong specific links and true internal link scenarios. I hate hearing internal links and impacts that are based on evidence from 2007. I am convinced at this level of debate evidence for disads should be updated every week to paint an accurate portrayal of the world. I will weigh a disad impact scenario without good specific links against case impacts in all cases, but the risk will probably be very low. I'm going to vote for whichever team (aff or neg) has the best and most true story.
Case - I love a good case debate. Above I mentioned I have a criminal justice and philosophy background, it is important to note my main degree area if study was political science (IR) and history.. I have found that specific and significant case turns by the negative can be very effective in undermining an aff case and being enough to win a round. Common sense analytics are important to accompany cards for both teams. Shadow extensions do little for me, I want warrant analysis with specific comparisons.
Theory and framework - Ask regarding specifics. Impact it out, ask for leeway, answer independent voters. I think this is an area of debate that is often under-covered and not understood by many advanced teams. I vote for kritikal affs and neg t/framework about evenly. I'll go either way. I don't like cheap theory (disclosure in round one of the first tournament of the year), but understand creative theory as part of the game.
All said, have fun and enjoy yourselves. Please signpost appropriately! I don't always catch the authors and sometimes it gets interesting in rebuttals when all I keep hearing is the "Brown 11' card" over and over. I can usually figure it out, but is annoying and a waste of time. I am very open-minded and will listen to anything, however teams need to explain both claims and their appropriate warrants. [mailto:devadvmike@gmail.com]
lukehartman3@gmail.com
Background:
I debated for four years at Olathe Northwest and one year at Kansas State. I was previously an assistant coach at Blue Valley North (2014-2018 and 2021-2022), a lab leader at the Jayhawk Debate Institute (2018), and an assistant coach at Peninsula (2019-2021). I am now a patent lawyer based in Kansas City.
General Comments:
- I prefer policy-oriented debates, but I'm not terribly picky and will listen to most arguments as long as you can justify them.
- I don't pretend to be truly tabula rasa, as I believe that setting some ground rules (namely, that the affirmative team should defend the resolution and that the negative team should disprove the desirability of the affirmative) is a necessary prerequisite to meaningful, fair debate.
- Logic > tech > truth
- I'm far more willing vote for a smart analytical argument than a shallow extension of a card. Evidence should be read for the purpose of backing up your arguments -- not the other way around.
- On a similar note, my least favorite type of debate is the "card war". Don't just read cards -- make arguments.
- The technical aspect of debate is important to me. I'm generally willing to assign substantial risk to dropped arguments, but you still have to extend those arguments and their respective warrant(s).
- I love cross-x. If your cross-x is well thought out and used to generate arguments and understandings that are useful in speeches for important parts of the debate, my happiness and your speaker points will increase. [Credit to Nick Miller for most of the preceding sentence.]
- I enjoy a good joke (and occasionally a bad one).
Topicality/Theory:
The affirmative team must affirm the resolution in order to win the debate, and I believe that maximizing fairness and education (generally in that order) is good for debate. "The plan is reasonably topical" is not an argument unless the negative's interpretation is patently absurd; the neg's standards/voters are reasons why the aff is not reasonably topical. T is never an RVI. Conditionality is fine unless abused in an egregious fashion; for example, if your 1NC strat consist of 3 Ks and 4 CPs (I've seen it), you should probably go home and rethink your life.
Kritiks:
I am not especially well versed in high-theory critical literature, so do what you can to avoid burying me in jargon. I am probably persuaded by permutations more often than the average judge, and I tend to be skeptical of alts that seem utopian and/or impossible. I'm not a fan of 2NRs that go for "epistemology first" as a way to remove all substantive clash from the debate. Additionally, I tend not to think that my ballot has any particular "role" besides choosing who wins/loses the debate. "Role of the ballot" arguments should be articulated as impact framework, and they require actual standards/warrants -- not just the assertion that "The role of the ballot is [to vote for exactly what our aff/K does]." I am extremely skeptical of the idea that an isolated use of gendered/ableist language is reason enough for a team to lose a debate round. Please avoid reading from dead French philosophers if at all possible.
Debates judged (NATO topic): 0
Debates judged (career): 337
jacobhegna+debate at gmail dot com
University of Kansas 2019
I will keep my paradigm brief because I believe most paradigms are a normative description of how a judge wishes they judged debates rather than a descriptive one.
I am happy (or at least willing) to judge most kinds of debates. My favorite kinds of arguments are:
- affirmatives with large, truth-over-tech impacts with try-or-die framing
- resource disads (e.g. the oil disad)
- topicality
- technical Ks with specific topic and/or aff links
My least favorite kinds of arguments are:
- process, delay, etc counterplans (any counterplan which requires reading a definition to compete)
- theory debates on either side, unless it is used to reject one of the aforementioned arguments
- generic Ks of the government/etc
However, please do not significantly adjust your plans for the debate for me. I would much prefer to see a good debate on an argument I enjoy relatively less compared to a bad debate on an argument I love.
Competed:
2011-15 – Lawrence Free State, KS, Policy (Space, Transportation, Latin America, Oceans)
2015-17 – JCCC, KS, NDT/CEDA (Military Presence, Climate Change); NFA-LD (Bioprospecting, Southern Command)
2017-20 – Missouri State University, MO, NDT/CEDA (Healthcare, Exec Authority, Space); NFA-LD (Policing, Cybersecurity)
Coached:
2016-17 – Lawrence High School, KS, (China Engagement)
2017-19 – Olathe West High School, KS, (Education, Immigration)
2019-22– Truman High School, MO, (Arm Sales, CJR, Water)
2020-Present– Missouri State University, MO, (MDT Withdrawal, Anti-Trust, Rights/Duties, Nukes); NFA-LD (Climate, Endless Wars)
2022-23- Truman State University, MO, NFA-LD (Elections)
2022-Present - The Pembroke Hill School, MO, (NATO, Economic Inequality).
Always add:
phopsdebate@gmail.com
Also add IF AND ONLY IF at a NDT/CEDA TOURNAMENT: debatedocs@googlegroups.com
If I walk out of the room (or go off-camera), please send the email and I will return very quickly.
Email chains are STRONGLY preferred. Email chains should be labeled correctly.
*Name of Tournament * *Division* *Round #* *Aff Team* vs *Neg Team*
tl;dr:
You do you; I'll flow whatever happens. I tend to like policy arguments more than Kritical arguments. I cannot type fast and flow on paper as a result. Please give me pen time on T, Theory, and long o/v's etc. Do not be a jerk. Debaters work hard, and I try to work as hard as I can while judging. Debaters should debate slower than they typically do.
Evidence Quality X Quantity > Quality > Quantity. Argument Tech + Truth > Tech > Truth. Quals > No Quals.
I try to generate a list of my random thoughts and issues I saw with each speech in the debate. It is not meant to be rude. It is just how I think through comments. If I have not said anything about something it likely means I thought it was good.
Speaker Points:
If you can prove to me you have updated your wiki for the round I am judging before I submit the ballot I will give you the highest speaker points allowed by the tournament. An updated wiki means: 1. A complete round report. 2. Cites for all 1NC off case positions/ the 1AC, and 3. uploaded open source all of the documents you read in the debate inclusive of analytics. If I become aware that you later delete, modify, or otherwise disclose less information after I have submitted my ballot, any future debate in which I judge you will result in the lowest possible speaker points at the tournament.
Online debates:
In "fast" online debates, I found it exceptionally hard to flow those with poor internet connections or bad mics. I also found it a little harder even with ideal mic and internet setups. I think it's reasonable for debates in which a debater(s) is having these issues for everyone in the debate to debate at an appropriate speed for everyone to engage.
Clarity is more important in a digital format than ever before. I feel like it would behoove everyone to be 10% slower than usual. Make sure you have a differentiation between your tag voice and your card body voice.
It would be super cool if everyone put their remaining prep in the chat.
I am super pro the Cams on Mics muted approach in debates. Obvious exceptions for poor internet quality.
People should get in the groove of always sending marked docs post speeches and sending a doc of all relevant cards after the debate.
Disads:
I enjoy politics debates. Reasons why the Disad outweighs and turns the aff, are cool. People should use the squo solves the aff trick with election DA's more.
Counter Plans:
I generally think negatives can and should get to do more. CP's test the intrinsic-ness of the advantages to the plan text. Affirmatives should get better at writing and figuring out plan key warrants. Bad CP's lose because they are bad. It seems legit that 2NC's get UQ and adv cp's to answer 2AC thumpers and add-ons. People should do this more.
Judge kicking the cp seems intuitive to me. Infinite condo seems good, real-world, etc. Non-Condo theory arguments are almost always a reason to reject the argument and not the team. I still expect that the 2AC makes theory arguments and that the neg answers them sufficiently. I think in an evenly matched and debated debate most CP theory arguments go neg.
I am often not a very good judge for CP's that require you to read the definition of "Should" when answering the permutation. Even more so for CP's that compete using internal net benefits. I understand how others think about these arguments, but I am often unimpressed with the quality of the evidence and cards read. Re: CIL CP - come on now.
Kritiks on the Negative:
I like policy debate personally, but that should 0% stop you from doing your thing. I think I like K debates much better than my brain will let me type here. Often, I end up telling teams they should have gone for the K or voted for it. I think this is typically because of affirmative teams’ inability to effectively answer critical arguments
Links of omission are not links. Rejecting the aff is not an alternative, that is what I do when I agree to endorse the alternative. Explain to me what happens to change the world when I endorse your alternative. The aff should probably be allowed to weigh the aff against the K. I think arguments centered on procedural fairness and iterative testing of ideas are compelling. Clash debates with solid defense to the affirmative are significantly more fun to adjudicate than framework debates. Floating pics are probably bad. I think life has value and preserving more of it is probably good.
Kritical Affirmatives vs Framework:
I think the affirmative should be in the direction of the resolution. Reading fw, cap, and the ballot pik against these affs is a good place to be as a policy team. I think topic literacy is important. I think there are more often than not ways to read a topical USfg action and read similar offensive positions. I am increasingly convinced that debate is a game that ultimately inoculates advocacy skills for post-debate use. I generally think that having a procedurally fair and somewhat bounded discussion about a pre-announced, and democratically selected topic helps facilitate that discussion.
Case Debates:
Debates in which the negative engages all parts of the affirmative are significantly more fun to judge than those that do not.
Affirmatives with "soft-left" advantages are often poorly written. You have the worst of both worlds of K and Policy debate. Your policy action means your aff is almost certainly solvable by an advantage CP. Your kritical offense still has to contend with the extinction o/w debate without the benefit of framework arguments. It is even harder to explain when the aff has one "policy" extinction advantage and one "kritical" advantage. Which one of these framing arguments comes first? I have no idea. I have yet to hear a compelling argument as to why these types of affirmative should exist. Negative teams that exploit these problems will be rewarded.
Topicality/procedurals:
Short blippy procedurals are almost always only a reason to reject the arg and not the team. T (along with all procedurals) is never an RVI.
I am super uninterested in making objective assessments about events that took place outside of/before the debate round that I was not present for. I am not qualified nor empowered to adjudicate debates concerning the moral behavior of debaters beyond the scope of the debate.
Things that are bad, but people continually do:
Have "framing" debates that consist of reading Util good/bad, Prob 1st/not 1st etc. Back and forth at each other and never making arguments about why one position is better than another. I feel like I am often forced to intervene in these debates, and I do not want to do that.
Saying something sexist/homophobic/racist/ableist/transphobic - it will probably make you lose the debate at the worst or tank your speaks at the least.
Steal prep.
Send docs without the analytics you already typed. This does not actually help you. I sometimes like to read along. Some non-neurotypical individuals benefit dramatically by this practice. It wastes your prep, no matter how cool the macro you have programmed is.
Use the wiki for your benefit and not post your own stuff.
Refusing to disclose.
Reading the 1AC off paper when computers are accessible to you. Please just send the doc in the chain.
Doing/saying mean things to your partner or your opponents.
Unnecessarily cursing to be cool.
Some random thoughts I had at the end of my first year judging NDT/CEDA:
1. I love debate. I think it is the best thing that has happened to a lot of people. I spend a lot of my time trying to figure out how to get more people to do it. People should be nicer to others.
2. I was worse at debate than I thought I was. I should have spent WAY more time thinking about impact calc and engaging the other teams’ arguments.
3. I have REALLY bad handwriting and was never clear enough when speaking. People should slow down and be clearer. (Part of this might be because of online debate.)
4. Most debates I’ve judged are really hard to decide. I go to decision time often. I’m trying my best to decide debates in the finite time I have. The number of times Adrienne Brovero has come to my Zoom room is too many. I’m sorry.
5. I type a lot of random thoughts I had during debates and after. I really try to make a clear distinction between the RFD and the advice parts of the post-round. It bothered me a lot when I was a debater that people didn’t do this.
6. I thought this before, but it has become clearer to me that it is not what you do, it is what you justify. Debaters really should be able to say nearly anything they’d like in a debate. It is the opposing team’s job to say you’re wrong. My preferences are above, and I do my best to ignore them. Although I do think it is impossible for that to truly occur.
Disclosure thoughts:
I took this from Chris Roberds who said it much more elegantly than myself.
I have a VERY low threshold on this argument. Having schools disclose their arguments pre-round is important if the activity is going to grow/sustain itself. Having coached almost exclusively at small, underfunded, or new schools, I can say that disclosure (specifically disclosure on the wiki if you are a paperless debater) is a game changer. It allows small schools to compete and makes the activity more inclusive. There are a few specific ways that this influences how ballots will be given from me:
1) I will err negative on the impact level of "disclosure theory" arguments in the debate. If you're reading an aff that was broken at a previous tournament, on a previous day, or by another debater on your team, and it is not on the wiki (assuming you have access to a laptop and the tournament provides wifi), you will likely lose if this theory is read. There are two ways for the aff to "we meet" this in the 2ac - either disclose on the wiki ahead of time or post the full copy of the 1ac in the wiki as a part of your speech. Obviously, some grace will be extended when wifi isn't available or due to other extenuating circumstances. However, arguments like "it's just too much work," "I don't like disclosure," etc. won't get you a ballot.
2) The neg still needs to engage in the rest of the debate. Read other off-case positions and use their "no link" argument as a reason that disclosure is important. Read case cards and when they say they don't apply or they aren't specific enough, use that as a reason for me to see in-round problems. This is not a "cheap shot" win. You are not going to "out-tech" your opponent on disclosure theory. To me, this is a question of truth. Along that line, I probably won't vote on this argument in novice, especially if the aff is reading something that a varsity debater also reads.
3) If you realize your opponent's aff is not on the wiki, you should make every possible attempt before the round to ask them about the aff, see if they will put it on the wiki, etc. Emailing them so you have timestamped evidence of this is a good choice. I understand that, sometimes, one teammate puts all the cases for a squad on the wiki and they may have just put it under a different name. To me, that's a sufficient example of transparency (at least the first time it happens). If the aff says it's a new aff, that means (to me) that the plan text and/ or advantages are different enough that a previous strategy cut against the aff would be irrelevant. This would mean that if you completely change the agent of the plan text or have them do a different action it is new; adding a word like "substantially" or "enforcement through normal means" is not. Likewise, adding a new "econ collapse causes war" card is not different enough; changing from a Russia advantage to a China, kritikal, climate change, etc. type of advantage is. Even if it is new, if you are still reading some of the same solvency cards, I think it is better to disclose your previous versions of the aff at a minimum.
4) At tournaments that don't have wifi, this should be handled by the affirmative handing over a copy of their plan text and relevant 1AC advantages etc. before the round. If thats a local tournament, that means as soon as you get to the room and find your opponent.
5) If you or your opponent honestly comes from a circuit that does not use the wiki (e.g. some UDLs, some local circuits, etc.), I will likely give some leeway. However, a great use of post-round time while I am making a decision is to talk to the opponent about how to upload on the wiki. If the argument is in the round due to a lack of disclosure and the teams make honest efforts to get things on the wiki while I'm finishing up my decision, I'm likely to bump speaks for all 4 speakers by .2 or .5 depending on how the tournament speaks go.
6) There are obviously different "levels" of disclosure that can occur. Many of them are described above as exceptions to a rule. Zero disclosure is always a low-threshold argument for me in nearly every case other than the exceptions above.
That said, I am also willing to vote on "insufficient disclosure" in a few circumstances.
A. If you are in the open/varsity division of NDT-CEDA, NFA-LD, or TOC Policy your wiki should look like this or something very close to it. Full disclosure of information and availability of arguments means everyone is tested at the highest level. Arguments about why the other team does not sufficiently disclose will be welcomed. Your wiki should also look like this if making this argument.
B. If you are in the open/varsity division of NDT-CEDA, NFA-LD, or TOC Policy. Debaters should go to the room immediately after pairings are released to disclose what the aff will be. With obvious exceptions for a short time to consult coaches or if tech problems prevent it. Nothing is worse than being in a high-stress/high-level round and the other team waiting until right before the debate to come to disclose. This is not a cool move. If you are unable to come to the room, you should be checking the wiki for your opponent's email and sending them a message to disclose the aff/past 2NR's or sending your coach/a different debater to do so on your behalf.
C. When an affirmative team discloses what the aff is, they get a few minutes to change minor details (tagline changes, impact card swaps, maybe even an impact scenario). This is double true if there is a judge change. This amount of time varies by how much prep the tournament actually gives. With only 10 minutes between pairings and start time, the aff probably only get 30 seconds to say "ope, actually...." This probably expands to a few minutes when given 30 minutes of prep. Teams certainly shouldn't be given the opportunity to make drastic changes to the aff plan text, advantages etc. a long while after disclosing.
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Update:
- Probably not the best judge for the "Give us a 30!" approach unless it becomes an argument/point of contestation in the round. Chances are I'll just default to whatever I'd typically give. To me, these kind of things aren't arguments, but judge instructions that are external to making a decision regarding the debate occurring.
BIG PICTURE
- I appreciate adaptation to my preferences but don’t do anything that would make you uncomfortable. Never feel obligated to compete in a manner that inhibits your ability to be effective. My promise to you will be that I will keep an open mind and assess whatever you chose. In short: do you.
- Truth > Tech, but RELAX: All this means is that I recognize that debate is not merely a game, but rather a competition that models the world in which we live. This doesn’t mean I believe judges should intervene on the basis of argumentative preference - what it does mean is that embedded clash band the “nexus question” of the round is of more importance than blippy technical oversights between certain sheets of paper - especially in K v K debates.
Don't fret: a dropped argument is still a concession. I likely have a higher threshold for the development of arguments that are more intrinsically dubious and lack warrants.
- As a former coach of a UDL school where many of my debaters make arguments centred on their identity, diversity is a genuine concern. It may play a factor in how I evaluate a round, particularly in debates regarding what’s “best” for the community/activity.
Do you and I’ll do my best to evaluate it but I’m not a tabula rasa and the dogma of debate has me to believe the following. I have put a lot of time and thought into this while attempting to be parsimonious - if you are serious about winning my ballot a careful read would prove to serve you well:
FORM
- All speech acts are performances, consequently, debaters should defend their performances including the advocacy, evidence, arguments/positions, interpretations, and representations of said speech acts.
- One of the most annoying questions a judged can be asked: “Are you cool with speed?”
In short: yes. But smart and slow always beats fast and dumb.
I have absolutely no preference on rate of delivery, though I will say it might be smart to slow down a bit on really long tags, advocacy texts, your totally sweet theory/double-bind argument or on overviews that have really nuanced descriptions of the round. My belief is that speed is typically good for debate but please remember that spreading’s true measure is contingent on the number of arguments that are required to be answered by the other team not your WPM.
- Pathos: I used to never really think this mattered at all. To a large degree, it still doesn’t considering I’m unabashedly very flowcentric but I tend to give high speaker points to debaters who performatively express mastery knowledge of the subjects discussed, ability to exercise round vision, assertiveness, and that swank.
- Holistic Approaches: the 2AR/2NR should be largely concerned with two things:
1) provide framing of the round so I can make an evaluation of impacts and the like
2) descriptively instruct me on how to make my decision
Overviews have the potential for great explanatory power, use that time and tactic wisely.
While I put form first, I am of the maxim that “form follows function” – I contend that the reverse would merely produce an aesthetic, a poor formula for argument testing in an intellectually rigorous and competitive activity. In summation: you need to make an argument and defend it.
FUNCTION
- The Affirmative ought to be responsive to the topic. This is a pinnacle of my paradigm that is quite broad and includes teams who seek to engage in resistance to the proximate structures that frame the topic. Conversely, this also implicates teams that prioritize social justice - debaters utilizing methodological strategies for best resistance ought to consider their relationship to the topic.
Policy-oriented teams may read that last sentence with glee and K folks may think this is strike-worthy…chill. I do not prescribe to the notion that to be topical is synonymous with being resolutional.
- The Negative’s ground is rooted in the performance of the Affirmative as well as anything based in the resolution. It’s that simple; engage the 1AC if at all possible.
- I view rounds in an offense/defense lens. Many colleagues are contesting the utility of this approach in certain kinds of debate and I’m ruminating about this (see: “Thoughts on Competition”) but I don’t believe this to be a “plan focus” theory and I default to the notion that my decisions require a forced choice between competing performances.
- I will vote on Framework. (*This means different things in different debate formats - I don't mean impact framing or LD-centric "value/value criterion" but rather a "You must read a plan" interpretation that's typically in response to K Affs)That means I will vote for the team running the position based on their interpretation, but it also means I’ll vote on offensive responses to the argument. Vindicating an alternative framework is a necessary skill and one that should be possessed by kritikal teams - justifying your form of knowledge production as beneficial in these settings matter.
Framework appeals effectively consist of a normative claim of how debate ought to function. The interpretation should be prescriptive; if you are not comfortable with what the world of debate would look like if your interpretation were universally applied, then you have a bad interpretation. The impact to your argument ought to be derived from your interpretation (yes, I’ve given RFDs where this needed to be said). Furthermore, a Topical Version of the Affirmative must specifically explain how the impacts of the 1AC can be achieved, it might be in your best interest to provide a text or point to a few cases that achieve that end. This is especially true if you want to go for external impacts that the 1AC can’t access – but all of this is contingent on a cogent explanation as to why order precedes/is the internal link to justice.
- I am pretty comfortable judging Clash of Civilization debates.
- Framework is the job of the debaters. Epistemology first? Ontology? Sure, but why? Where does performance come into play – should I prioritize a performative disad above the “substance” of a position? Over all of the sheets of paper in the round? These are questions debaters must grapple with and preferably the earlier in the round the better.
- "Framework is how we frame our work" >>>>> "FrAmEwOrK mAkEs ThE gAmE wOrK"
-Presumption can be an option. In my estimation, the 2NR may go for Counterplan/Kritik while also giving the judge the option of the status quo. Call it “hypo-testing” or whatever but I believe a rational decision-making paradigm doesn’t doom me to make a single decision between two advocacies, especially when the current status of things is preferable to both (the net-benefit for a CP/linear DA and impact for a K). I don't know if I really “judge kick” for you, instead, the 2NR should explain an “even if” route to victory via presumption to allow the 2AR to respond.
“But what about when presumption flips Affirmative?” This is a claim that I wish would be established prior to the 2NR, but I know that's not gonna happen. I've definitely voted in favour of plenty of 2ARs that haven't said that in the 1AR. The only times I can envision this is when the 2NR is going all-in on a CP.
- Role of the Ballots ought to invariably allow the 1AC/1NC to be contestable and provide substantial ground to each team. Many teams will make their ROBs self-serving at best, or at worse, tautological. That's because there's a large contingency of teams that think the ROB is an advocacy statement. They are not. Even more teams conflate a ROB with a Role of the Judge instruction and I'm just now making my peace with dealing with that reality.
If the ROB fails to equally distribute ground, they are merely impact framing. A good ROB can effectively answer a lot of framework gripes regarding the Affirmative’s pronouncement of an unfalsifiable truth claim.
- Analytics that are logically consistent, well warranted, and answer the heart of any argument are weighed in high-esteem. This is especially true if it’s responsive to any combinations of bad argument/evidence.
- My threshold for theory is not particularly high. It’s what you justify, not necessarily what you do. I typically default to competing interpretations, this can be complicated by a team that is able to articulate what reasonability means in the context of the round, otherwise I feel like it's interventionist of me to decode what “reasonable” represents. The same is true to a lesser extent with the impacts as well. Rattling off “fairness and education” as loaded concepts that I should just know has a low threshold if the other team can explain the significance of a different voter or a standard that controls the internal link into your impact (also, if you do this: prepared to get impact turned).
I think theory should be strategic and I very much enjoy a good theory debate. Copious amounts of topicality and specification arguments are not strategic, it is desperate.
- I like conditionality probably more so than other judges. As a young’n I got away with a lot of, probably, abusive Negative strategies that relied on conditionality to the maximum (think “multiple worlds and presumption in the 2NR”) mostly because many teams were never particularly good at explaining why this was a problem. If you’re able to do so, great – just don’t expect me to do much of that work for you. I don’t find it particularly difficult for a 2AR to make an objection about how that is bad for debate, thus be warned 2NRs - it's a downhill effort for a 2AR.
Furthermore, I tend to believe the 1NC has the right to test the 1AC from multiple positions.
Thus, Framework along with Cap K or some other kritik is not a functional double turn. The 1NC doesn’t need to be ideologically consistent. However, I have been persuaded in several method debates that there is a performative disadvantage that can be levied against speech acts that are incongruent and self-defeating.
- Probability is the most crucial component of impact calculus with disadvantages. Tradeoffs ought to have a high risk of happening and that question often controls the direction of uniqueness while also accessing the severity of the impact (magnitude).
- Counterplan debates can often get tricky, particularly if they’re PICs. Maybe I’m too simplistic here, but I don’t understand why Affirmatives don’t sit on their solvency deficit claims more. Compartmentalizing why portions of the Affirmative are key can win rounds against CPs. I think this is especially true because I view the Counterplan’s ability to solve the Affirmative to be an opportunity cost with its competitiveness. Take advantage of this “double bind.”
- Case arguments are incredibly underutilized and the dirty little secret here is that I kind of like them. I’m not particularly sentimental for the “good ol’ days” where case debate was the only real option for Negatives (mostly because I was never alive in that era), but I have to admit that debates centred on case are kind of cute and make my chest feel all fuzzy with a nostalgia that I never experienced– kind of like when a frat boy wears a "Reagan/Bush '84" shirt...
KRITIKAL DEBATE
I know enough to know that kritiks are not monolithic. I am partial to topic-grounded kritiks and in all reality I find them to be part of a typical decision-making calculus. I tend to be more of a constructivist than a rationalist. Few things frustrate me more than teams who utilise a kritik/answer a kritik in a homogenizing fashion. Not every K requires the ballot as a tool, not every K looks to have an external impact either in the debate community or the world writ larger, not every K criticizes in the same fashion. I suggest teams find out what they are and stick to it, I also think teams should listen and be specifically responsive to the argument they hear rather than rely on a base notion of what the genre of argument implies. The best way to conceptualize these arguments is to think of “kritik” as a verb (to criticize) rather than a noun (a static demonstrative position).
It is no secret that I love many kritiks but deep in every K hack’s heart is a revered space that admires teams that cut through the noise and simply wave a big stick and impact turn things, unabashedly defending conventional thought. If you do this well there’s a good chance you can win my ballot. If pure agonism is not your preferred tactic, that’s fine but make sure your post-modern offense onto kritiks can be easily extrapolated into a 1AR in a fashion that makes sense.
In many ways, I believe there’s more tension between Identity and Post-Modernism teams than there are with either of them and Policy debaters. That being said, I think the Eurotrash K positions ought to proceed with caution against arguments centred on Identity – it may not be smart to contend that they ought to embrace their suffering or claim that they are responsible for a polemical construction of identity that replicates the violence they experience (don’t victim blame).
THOUGHTS ON COMPETITION
There’s a lot of talk about what is or isn’t competition and what competition ought to look like in specific types of debate – thus far I am not of the belief that different methods of debate require a different rubric for evaluation. While much discussion has been given to “Competition by Comparison” I very much subscribe to Competing Methodologies. What I’ve learned in having these conversations is that this convention means different things to different people and can change in different settings in front of different arguments. For me, I try to keep it consistent and compatible with an offense/defense heuristic: competing methodologies require an Affirmative focus where the Negative requires an independent reason to reject the Affirmative. In this sense, competition necessitates a link. This keeps artificial competition at bay via permutations, an affirmative right regardless of the presence of a plan text.
Permutations are merely tests of mutual exclusivity. They do not solve and they are not a shadowy third advocacy for me to evaluate. I naturally will view permutations more as a contestation of linkage – and thus, are terminal defense to a counterplan or kritik -- than a question of combining texts/advocacies into a solvency mechanism. If you characterize these as solvency mechanisms rather than a litmus test of exclusivity, you ought to anticipate offense to the permutation (and even theory objections to the permutation) to be weighed against your “net-benefits”. This is your warning to not be shocked if I'm extrapolating a much different theoretical understanding of a permutation if you go 5/6 minutes for it in the 2AR.
Even in method debates where a permutation contends both methods can work in tandem, there is no solvency – in these instances net-benefits function to shield you from links (the only true “net benefit” is the Affirmative). A possible exception to this scenario is “Perm do the Affirmative” where the 1AC subsumes the 1NC’s alternative; here there may be an offensive link turn to the K resulting in independent reasons to vote for the 1AC.
tldr; im left but will vote right if you win.
Experience: Debated 4 years high school, 2 year college at KSU
Theory: You can for sure win on theory if you go for a theory argument assuming you actually won the flow. This goes for all theory from standard condo to more nontraditional deployments.
T: Yes you can win on T in front of me. This is especially for a policy on policy debate where the aff is just abusive. That being said, T is an argument and like all arguments if you say mishandle an impact turn you still loose. If you are reading T against a K aff then you should be framing all of your standards as a methods debate.
DA: Pretty non-controversial, DA's are fine.
K: I will vote for any K. Do you and i'll flow.
K Affs- Totally fine with K affs
Case: Regardless of style Case debate is always great. Don't just hand the aff case, even
Speed: Yes if you can annunciate your words.
I honestly have no predisposition against any specific argument and will check in for any debate. Debate tough, be competitive, do you.
University of Kansas Class of 2019
Debated 4 years at Blue Valley North High School.
Surveillance: I have judged 10 rounds on this topic.
Please don't use insane acronyms or expect me to understand all of the intricate parts of the topic. I will flow and understand what you tell me and explain to me.
Overview
I was mainly a policy debater in high school. I will flow all arguments and weigh all arguments based on how the debaters tell me to value them. I believe that the role of a judge is to do as little work as possible when coming to a decision. If debaters are not making clear reasons for why they should win then I won’t be persuaded and I will not pull strings for a certain team.
I think strategy and decision making are important skills. If you want to win the debate you must paint a clear picture of why you should win or why the opponent should lose.
General Specifics
Spreading- I can keep up with any speed, but it is only fine as long as you are reading tags clearly and not slurring words during the text of the card. If you aren’t reading a card clearly, I will yell clear. After that I will stop flowing if you don’t slow down.
Disclosure- I am not highly persuaded by disclosure theory, but if it is read I will evaluate it. I think that disclosure can be good, but I don’t believe in forcing norms on the debate community.
Cross-X – This is the best place to earn extra speaker points and to build a good ethos. I value cross-x very highly and believe that the best teams are those that can use three minutes to change a debate. I also HATE people who answer questions by not answering them. If you think you are clever by spiking out of answers, you will be docked speaker points.
Evidence vs Spin –Spin will always come first. I don’t want to call for evidence, but if it comes down to that usually evidence is the tiebreaker.
Argument Specifics
Case – impact calculus is paramount for the affirmative no matter what the 2nr is (the exception being T). That means that impact defense is key or “try or die” becomes persuasive. I generally give the aff some risk of winning some case solvency, but there is nothing better than a well-researched and well-prepared case strategy from the negative. Challenging all parts of the case with good evidence can put you in a great position to win. Case debate is often about detailed distinctions and it’s important to explain why those distinctions matter.
Topicality – I default to competing interpretations, but can be persuaded of a well-done reasonability argument. That does not mean “our aff’s pretty close”. If the 2ar puts the work in, reasonability can become an offensive argument. Limits are good, but overlimiting is bad – it’s the job of the debater to tell me who is doing what. Case lists and topical versions of the aff are always helpful.
DAs – impact calc should be the first thing I hear in the block and 2nr overviews of the DA. That also means every 2ac should have impact defense to the DA. Turns case arguments can be deadly when executed properly and a smart turns case arg is invaluable. There is no such thing as zero risk of uniqueness/link/internal link/impact unless there is a major dropped argument/piece of evidence. Otherwise, there is always a risk of the DA and everything must be contextualized. When the UQ and link debates are close, make sure to include which should be evaluated first and why.
CPs – I think that cp’s are all about strategy and ability to adapt in the debate. I am fine if the negative wants to run any type of counterplan, but I can also be persuaded by the affirmative on why certain counterplans are cheating. I ran the delay counterplan and I believe that debates come down to what arguments are made and how they are impacted. Also please do not run a counterplan without atleast one piece of evidence that says the CP can do the aff.
Ks on the neg – I generally believe that the aff should get to weight its impacts and the neg should get its alt. Given that this is my least comfortable style of argumentation, the neg must do a good job explaining the alt and giving clear overviews that compare its impact to the affirmative’s.
I am typically not persuaded by arguments that exclude the aff. If fiat is illusory and the aff can’t be weighed, this creates a bad debate which is not good to the debaters or to the judges.
I also don’t like the way negative teams explain some of the impacts to kritiks. If someone perms the kritik and you read a X DA to the perm. That DA must be impacted and explained during the time it is read. You can’t read a DA to a perm and blow it up in the 2nr. Just like a 2ac must explain the impact of an add-on to their aff.
Also if the 2nr extends an alternative, there must be at least thirty seconds of explanation on how the alt solves the impacts to the kritik and how it works.
Non-Plan Affs/Framework on the neg – I typically think that the aff ought to defend the hypothetical implementation of a topical plan, but can be persuaded otherwise. If you win on the line by line and you win the big picture, you win.
Name: William Klausmeyer
School: Kapaun Mt. Carmel (Wichita, KS)
Experience: 3 year high school debater, 2 of those were high flow years
1 year Wichita State University Debate
I debated 3 years in high school and was a high flow kritikal debater. I’ve debated most types of debates from straight up policy to performative and everything in between. That being said don’t assume that I know your literature base. I’m a tabula rosa judge (meaning I’ll vote for anything if it’s a warranted claim) but I default to a policy maker paradigm.
Speed – I prefer clarity over speed especially in nuanced arguments. It’s been a while since I’ve debated a high-flow round so start off slow and give me time to adjust. If I can’t understand you I’ll yell clear.
T/Theory – Give me a quality theory debate and I’ll vote for you. That said, my threshold for quality is probably higher than most. Theory was my baby in high school so if you want me to vote for you do it right. That means impacting your arguments out and explaining your arguments well. You’ll have a tough time winning the round on a blip theory argument unless its extended correctly (tell me what your argument was and why I should vote on it).
Disads – I like a specific story and a good link chain. Impact cards should be updated as well as the link cards. Don’t be making economic collapse causes war arguments from 2005 cards. That’s an easy way to lose credibility. I’ve always liked good DA turns case arguments, so if you have them use them. It’s an easy way to get more ground out of 1 argument.
Case – Case debate is vital to a good round (unless you have an AMAZING argument as to why case doesn’t matter). Good, logical arguments give you a lot of credibility. Case turns are an easy way to generate offense. At the very least you should mitigate case as best as possible.
Kritiks – I ran kritiks in high school but I by no means know the entire literature base. Don’t assume I know what you’re talking about, explain your arguments well. If you don’t have an interwoven argument to take out case you need to attack it separately.
Performance – Go for it but make real arguments and be able to explain them. Know your framework and how to win it.
Go for clash and debate warrants not just tags and you’ll have a much easier time winning. This is by no means comprehensive so ask any questions you have before the round.
**Policy Philosophy**
Small update 12/7/2016
I officially hate T debates on this year's topic, specifically the QPQ/Not QPQ debate. Go for T at your own risk.
The rest Updated 10/28/2015
About me: I’ve been coaching policy since 2008. I was at Omaha-Westside 2008-2012, and Millard North 2012-Present.
The short version: I’ll evaluate the debate the way the debaters tell me to. I don’t think debate should be any one thing. The beauty of policy is that it’s constantly changing to suit the will of the debaters. I care significantly more about the educational outcomes of debate than pure gamesmanship. If you’re debating in a style that you’re passionate about (policy-making included), I’m a good judge for you so long as you can justify what you’re doing. Some of my teams run straight-up policy arguments, others don’t read plans.
The argument biases below aren’t set in stone. I try my best to evaluate the debate according to the arguments made in the round, not my predispositions.
Speed: I can flow whatever speed you toss at me as long as you’re clear. That being said, I’d prefer if you slowed down about 15% so that I have a little more time to process what you’re saying. Frankly, I enjoy debates more that are a little slower—but debates are about the debaters, so don’t pay too much attention to that.
If I can’t understand what you’re saying I’ll tell you to be clear once or twice. After that you're on your own.
Topicality: I'm probably not the best judge for T if the aff is about a core controversy of the topic.
I've generally voted neg on topicality in debates where the negative has provided a clear, limiting interpretation of the topic. The aff was in good shape when they gave warrants behind breadth over depth and/or talked about the quality of the ground the differing limits provide (limits should be about the quantity and quality of cases). I default to reasonability if neither side says a word about it, but I defer to the flow and usually end up deciding based on competing interpretations.
Theory: It’s your burden to prove rejecting the argument doesn’t solve your objections. You'll have a tough time convincing me to vote on dropped cheap shots. Limited conditionality, topical CPs, and functional PICs are probably good. Counterplans that include the possibility of doing the entire plan are probably bad.
Kritiks: Do your thing. I’m pretty well informed on most arguments, but you can’t be sure I know your personal favorite. Specificity makes for better debating.
DAs/CPs: Sure, go for it. I’m getting less thrilled by politics debates as time goes on, but I’ll evaluate it fairly. Case-specific PIC/DA combos are probably my favorite strategies.
Framework: Mike Baxter-Kauf says it best: "There are really 2 different arguments that people lump under the tag “framework.” One is a question of how we should think in response to a given question: these are defenses of pragmatism, realism, empiricism, etc. These are legitimate questions which are a focus of any intelligent response to a criticism. The other is “they ran an argument with big words so we should get to not answer it and still win.” I hate this argument ,like whoa, do I hate this argument. Don’t get me wrong, I vote for it, but I hate doing it and the the threshold for rejecting it is pretty low. You are way better off answering the thesis of the argument and defending your approach to whatever the question is (YOUR epistemology, YOUR ontology, etc.)"
No Plan/Alternative Styles: I'm friendly to this when it's not used as a method of avoiding clash. If you’re passionate about what you’re doing, I want to watch you debate. If you try to be shifty and 'no link' out of positions that clearly link to your advocacy, don't be surprised when I give the other team more credibility on their framework arguments. It will also probably hurt your speaker points. That being said, I am increasingly wary of how intellectually limiting traditional interpretations of the resolution are. If you're germane to the topic and present a debatable advocacy, I'm interested in what you have to say.
Other stuff:
When I read evidence after the round, it's generally to get more context for the arguments made in the debate. I won’t give you credit for warrants that weren’t explained in-round.
I definitely value 'spin' over evidence.
I won’t judge-kick a counterplan and evaluate the status quo unless you explicitly make that an argument in the round.
Clipping cards is a serious offense. Get caught and you’ll lose the round with zero speaks.
Debate Experience: 4 years in high school at Blue Valley West
Coach at Blue Valley Northwest
Rounds Judged: 50ish
General: Do what you are most comfortable doing in a debate round. If you are trying to change how you debate entirely to fit me, you likely won’t be debating to the best of your ability. Speed is fine, any style ofargument is fine. I usually went for politics/cp/case but am familiar and also went for Ks relatively frequently. I have become more K friendly in my years since debating.
-affs should be related to the topic, the degree to which is up for debate. As a debater, I always went for T against K affs and think that's a good strategy. Winning the biggest internal link to education is the primary way to win framework debates on either side.
-Topicality is usually a voting issue, never a reverse voting issue.
-stealing prep hurts your speaks, know how laptops work and don't take forever to save speech docs.
-Conditionality is good, PICs are good
-I think inaccessability in debate is a large structural problem and think steps towards making debate more inclusive are necessary. This goes both ways idealogically. Excluding and/or devaluing people's experiences is shitty, as is saying a bunch of buzzwords of critical theory to people with less access or experience with that type of debate. All of these types of arguments are up for debate within the round, but this likely means I will be more sympathetic to critiques that challenge discourses and/or structures of debate for marginalized people (be it via racism, cissexism, classism, ableism, geographic location, etc) compared to abtractly complaining about the lack or saying extinction good.
-a debate round should be a safe space to engage with a variety of ideas. Challenge each other but don't do shitty things. If you tell the other team to kill themselves, misgender someone (coloquilly saying "you guys," although you should stop if asked, is distinct from denying someone's identity), are racist, etc., it will likely factor into my decision. It's not hard to be a decent human being, so hopefully this won't be an issue.
-If one team makes a huge, debate-losing concession, your next speech should explain with warrants what your argument was, what the impact to that is, and why the other team failed to adequately address it. If you do this then sit down you will receive at least a 1 point bump in speaker points. There is nothing wrong with a 30 second 2nc if that is all you need to win. Examples of blunders that would make this short speech strategic: dropping a disad, drops alt solves the case, not making a solvency deficit to a CP, only reads Hillary will win uniqueness in response to your Hillary good politics disad (all things that have happened this year).
Speaker points:
28 is average, 29.5 is top speaker worthy, >26.5 you should not be at this tournament
any other questions just ask :~)
I debated at Olathe Northwest and am a Senior at KU (not debating). Fourth year assistant coach at Olathe West. My email is matt.michie97@gmail.com
Top-Level: Racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia, etc. are unacceptable. Use content warnings before starting speeches and put them in speech docs when applicable. Being mean to your partner is an extremely easy way to lose ranks/quals.
Speed: I think debates are better for everyone when you slow down for tags/cites/theory. Other than that, speak at whatever speed you like while still retaining clarity. Speeding into an incomprehensible slurry in the text of the card will at best dock your speaker points and at worst severely cost you on the flow; I am not going to just flow your speech doc's tags, I am going to flow what you say. I will say clear if necessary. *This is ESPECIALLY true in a virtual debate. If you are reading at the same speed you would in-person, you will be incomprehensible.
Everything below are just my preferences. I don't really care what arguments you read, as long as they're good.
Topicality: I default to Competing Interpretations. I think teams should be topical. If your aff isn't topical, you should tell me why your aff is better for debate than a topical one, rather than why topicality is bad. You should be as specific as possible about your offense, on both sides. Don't bother with your impact turns.
General Theory: I have no particular leaning one way or the other on most theory args, except that conditionality is good. That doesn't mean don't read condo bad if you want to, you just can't read and barely extend your block shell and expect me to have any interest in voting on it. Your argument should make a broader statement on debate rather than a specific objection to something in-round.
Disadvantages and Impact Turns: The link debate is probably more important than anything else in a DA. I mostly read/went for disadvantages/impact turns in High School, so this kind of debate is what I am most versed in.
Counterplans: I don't necessarily have a problem with any particular type of counterplan, but Aff teams should probably be reading a lot more CP theory than I usually see. I wish I saw more teams make more perms than just "do both," and I especially wish more teams actually utilized their perms effectively past the block.
Kritiks: Don't assume that I'm familiar with all terms of art/authors. I think “reject the aff” or “do nothing” alternatives are not very compelling but that doesn’t mean I won’t vote for one. I feel like most K debates I see are incredibly weak on the Alt debate on both sides. Links of omission are not links. Evidence here matters immensely. I feel like teams take each other's K cards at face-value way too often. A lot of these cards on both sides of any K are total gibberish, you should be pointing that out to me.
Framework: I generally don't like extremely generic/limiting framework interps. I default to believing the Aff's role is to endorse an inherent resolution-based advocacy that solves for significant harms, and the Negative's role is to dispute the Aff on the basis of any of those terms, or by expressing the significant harms of the Aff. I feel like many of my decisions end up coming down to the fact that teams let each other get away with way too much here. Framework is not an opportunity for you to read your cool interp block your squad wrote 7 years ago and call it a day. Your framework lays the foundation for how I'm supposed to evaluate the round. Don't let the other team do that for you.
TOO LONG DIDN’T READ: You do you. If you bring me chai I will give block 30’s. If you have questions then ask me.
Theory arguments are boring.
I flow everything straight down on paper.
I actually think framework is a good argument, but in the way that I think it pushes K args to defend some of the fundamental aspects of their arguments - reform, legal solutions, the state, progress, liberalism, traditional forms of politics, etc. I think these are the important aspects of framework. Procedural fairness is an impact and not one that I love, but it's a means to an end. You still have to win some kind of terminal impact to framework, otherwise we're just playing a technical game of checkers. Give me a reason to care.
Affs get perms. You need a link to your K anyway. That should make it so the perm is unable to solve the impacts of your criticism. But they still get to make the perm argument so that that aspect of the debate is tested. I get it, it's a method debate. But I super want you to have a link that says why their method sucks.
Example: direct revolutionary praxis vs strategic, opaque resistance. There are a ton of flavors of these methods, but at their roots they are competitive and produce good debates.
"Performance" - All debate is a performance. This categorical distinction is arbitrary and I don't like it. Of course you can read a story to support your argument. People do that.
Evidence – I'm going to read cards. I like them. I think cards should be good and well warranted, and I hate calling for cards only to find a good argument was backed up with some lackluster ev.
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I flow CX because it is binding. I stopped recording rounds but would appreciate a recording if clipping was accused.
Be nice to others, whether or not they deserve it.
I prefer line by line debate. People who extend a DA by by grouping the links, impacts, UQ sometimes miss arguments and get lower points. Use opponent's words to signpost.
Assuming aff defends a plan:
Strong presumption T is a voting issue. Aff should win you meet neg's interp or a better one. Neg should say your arguments make the aff interp unreasonable. Topic wording or lit base might or might not justify extra or effects T, particularly with a detailed plan advocate.
High threshold for anything except T/condo as voting issues*. More willing than some to reject the CP, K alts, or even DA links on theory. Theory is better when narrowly tailored to what happened in a specific debate. I have voted every possible way on condo/dispo, but 3x Condo feels reasonable. Under dispo, would conceding "no link" make more sense than conceding "perm do both" to prove a CP did not compete?
Zero link, zero internal link, and zero solvency are possible. Zero impact is rare.
Large-scale terminal impacts are presumed comparable in magnitude unless you prove otherwise. Lower scale impacts also matter, particularly as net benefits.
Evidence is important, but not always essential to initiate an argument. Respect high-quality opponent evidence when making strategic decisions.
If the plan/CP is vague, the opponent gets more input into interpreting it. CX answers, topic definitions, and the literature base helps interpret vague plans, advocacy statements, etc. If you advocate something different from your cards, clarity up front is recommended.
I am open to explicit interps of normal means (who votes for and against plan and how it goes down), even if they differ from community norms, provided they give both teams a chance to win.
Kritiks are similar to DA/CP strategies but if the aff drops some of the "greatest hits" they are in bad shape. Affs should consider what offense they have inside the neg's framework interp in case neg wins their interp. K impacts, aff or neg, can outweigh or tiebreak.
Assuming aff doesn't defend a plan:
Many planless debates incentivize exploring important literature bases, but afer decades, we should be farther along creating a paradigm that can account for most debates. Eager to hear your contributions to that! Here is a good example of detailed counter-interps (models of debate). http://www.cedadebate.org/forum/index.php/topic,2345.0.html
Impact turns are presumed relevant to kritikal args. "Not my pomo" is weak until I hear a warranted distinction. I prefer the negative to attempt direct engagement (even if they end up going for T). It can be easier to win the ballot this way if the aff overcovers T. Affs which dodge case specific offense are particularly vulnerable on T (or other theory arguments).
Topicality is always a decent option for the neg. I would be open to having the negative go for either resolution good (topicality) or resolution bad (we negate it). Topicality arguments not framed in USFG/framework may avoid some aff offense.
In framework rounds, the aff usually wins offense but impact comparison should account for mitigators like TVA's and creative counter-interps. An explicit counter-interp (or model of debate) which greatly mitigates the limits DA is recommended - see example below. Accounting for topic words is helpful. TVA's are like CP's because they mitigate whether topics are really precluded by the T interp.
If I were asked to design a format to facilitate K/performance debate, I would be surprised. After that wore off, I would propose a season-long list of concepts with deep literature bases and expect the aff to tie most into an explicit 1AC thesis. Such an approach could be done outside of CEDA if publicized.
This was too short?
* Some ethical issues, like fabrication, are voting issues, regardless of line by line.
LD
I am a proponent of debaters doing what they do best and I am pretty open to hearing anything you want to run, policy debate will do that to you.
Value & Criterion: I find this debate tends to be muddled. The way this debate works for me is impact calculus: who's impact matters more and why. A good way to think about this debate for me as a judge is to tell me why you win under either teams arguments which is aided by having offense against your opponent. I am a policy judge, I think in terms of impacts more than anything else so be sure you explain to my what your impacts are and why they outweigh your opponents (timeframe, magnitude, probability).
I do have some cautions about those running "policy debate arguments" in LD.
Kritiks: I come from a slightly more policymaker background though I ran and competed against K's plenty of times. That background gives me a certain threshold of explanation of a kritik, the alt, the link, that I am comfortable voting on and I have found no matter the debaters ability, there structurally isn't enough time in LD to reach that explanation threshold. I have voted for Ks in LD, but have found myself still adjusting my threshold appropriately for LD. I say this as a caution for those who wish to run K's. Like I said, I've voted on K's in LD, but my threshold is higher than perhaps normal.
Theory: Theory can be good and effective when argued with standards and impacts to the debate round/space. Debaters who read a bunch of theory arguments at the bottom of their case, rattled off one after another, without independent justification for each one, likely will find I won't evaluate those arguments: 1) because of what I said before this and 2) I try to avoid flowing from the speech doc so I may miss one of the theory blips you give so you won't win because of it--even if I consult the speech doc, if need to know you said it and where in order for me to get it to my flow.
Please please please ask me questions if you have them. I put these three aspects of my paradigm here because I know these are The debate space is your space and I want to give you as much information about me as a judge as possible to set you best up for success so do not hesitate to ask. If one team asks a question and the other isn't present, I will make sure each team is aware of what was asked and what my answer is.
PF
As I come from policy I don't have any really strong opinions on what PF should look like.
My one opinion on PF is that the SECOND REBUTTAL needs to address BOTH SIDES of the debate (that means you should attack and defend in this speech), if you do not do this, any arguments you don't address will be considered conceded. It helps to even out the advantage given to the second team by speaking last. I generally prefer the summary to be line-by-line compared to a whole round picture, you won't be punished (speaker points, assumed conceded args).
Mostly for me, don't be idiots in the round (or in general) and we should have a good, fun round.
Also, I do like to make jokes (and by jokes I mean really stupid, unfunny jokes that I find funny) feel free to laugh, or don't laugh, at them, or me, but just a heads up. It surprises some people.
Please ask me any questions you have! I'm always glad to talk about anything debate related or not!
POLICY
Updated 8/6/2015 (Most a copy and paste from original)
Background: Debated for four years at Millard West High School in Omaha, Nebraska and graduated in 2013. I don’t debate in college but am an assistant at Millard West. I go to school at UNL (if you wanted to know).
Spark Notes Version: Debate how you want to. That’s the most important thing. Debate is an educational game. Make sure you facilitate CLASH in the round. Please engage in your opponents arguments. Seriously. The biggest thing is do what you want to in the debate round. It isn't about me.
Speed: I am fine with. I will yell clear if I want you to be clearer.
Flashing Evidence: I will stop prep time when the flash drive is ejected from the computer of the team saving the files to it
Shadow Prepping: DO NOT SHADOW PREP. For clarity—shadow prep is defined as once prep time ends and one of the debaters in the round is still prepping. I will deduct prep time from the appropriate team. It is very annoying to see this trend. Once I see it happen less I will loosen up on this policy but I shouldn’t even have to mention it. Alas, I do.
Specific arguments:
Theory: This is always a difficult one to read the judges based on what they put on the wiki, and as such, theory is rarely run and it is even more rarely gone for. There is also a very simple reason for this: No one invests the time needed on theory to go for it. I love theory debates when they happen, but it kills me when they are done poorly. This is how I would evaluate a good theory debate: A shell can be used the first time it comes up by both sides, that’s fine. Just don’t zip through them. But when it comes time to going for the argument, you need to sit down and answer the shell of your opponent part by part. Just extending your arguments doesn’t work, answer back in full AND extend your arguments. Think of it like a Topicality debate, just extending your standards and voters won’t win you Topicality, the same applies here—you must answer. Do this and you will be in a better position to win theory in front of me. If you aren’t prepared to win a theory debate, don’t go for it—that’s a good rule of thumb for any debate actually.
Topicality: Speaking of Topicality, what would it take for me to vote on T? I loved topicality when I debated. It is such a great argument that has so many different aspects of it; it can be easy to trip up teams. That’s just a little so you know. Just like Theory, you need to answer every aspect of Topicality in order to win topicality, or if you are the affirmative, not lose on topicality. Never just extend the shells that are spewed off in the 1NC and the 2AC, do some in-depth analysis on the all levels. Interpretation is usually a big one to make sure to cover, then of course standards which prove the voters. Bottom-line: Clash on the topicality flow and utilize all of the flow to prove why you win.
Disadvantages: There is a theme in all of this, Clash and engagement. That is important on the disad as well. Also, I love disads. So much fun! Back to what is important to me. Well, all of it. Answer arguments is important, clearly. This should go without saying, but make sure your disads are Unique. This is something that is under-utilized in disad debate—specifics. Such as specific uniqueness evidence to people or pieces of legislation, or economic analysts, etc.
Politics: I love the politics disad and always enjoy seeing it ran. One thing—I hate the rational policy maker argument affs make against the politics disad—don’t do that. I will not vote on it.
Counterplans: I figure at this point I will be just reiterating myself if I talk about clash again, so I won’t. However, when negative you better show how you are competitive. Be warned, textual competition is shaky ground for me, functional competition is almost always a better way to go. That being said, if you love textually competitive counterplans I will listen to them, just be warned if challenged you better have clear and rock solid reasons as to why textually competitive counterplans are good.
Kritiks: I enjoy kritiks but you should know a few things about them to win them with me. As the negative, you need to win alternative solvency. If you don’t do this, you probably will lose. Negative, just because you give long overviews doesn’t mean you answered their arguments directly. You need to apply those arguments you made in the overview to the flow specifically.
Framework: Framework is a great way to tell me how to evaluate the round, whether it be policy-maker, or critical, or whatever you want. Be warned, I do not find the framework of “exclude my opponents because they debate wrong” persuasive at all. Just figured I would let you know that ahead of time…
Round Behavior: R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
Kicking Positions: I will not kick positions for you. If you argue it in the 2NR or 2AR, I will evaluate it.
My paradigm can be found here: https://judgephilosophies.wikispaces.com/Nelson%2C+Jared
i suggest you read it.
**Updated 2020**
Experience: 3 years high school policy debate (Little Rock Central), 3 years NDT-CEDA, 1 year NFA-LD @ Missouri State
email: ppjp88@gmail.com. Returning judge at college-level, have done UDL judging most recently.
I generally consider myself to be open to persuasion on most positions. I will try to judge the debate on the merit of argumentation taking place over other factors. I will also do my best to withhold biases I may hold against any argument, of which there are probably few to begin with.
My own debate experience was mostly on the policy side of things, but I do enjoy K debates though I may not be as familiar with the literature. I think affs which do not read a “traditional policy plan” should defend their alternative method, and I generally think that framework/topicality arguments should be answered.
For a K read against a critical/non-plan aff, I think the comparative benefits and disadvantages of each critical method must be debated to come to a conclusion about what my role as a judge should be and how I should vet the relevance of arguments to make a decision.
I enjoy good case debates and think that strong case analysis is necessary for a negative to win regardless of the critical or policy nature of the rest of the strat. Evidence analysis and impact comparison (for all positions and both sides) is part of this, and the team that does more of it better will probably seem more persuasive to me in any debate.
I think cross-x is important and should be used to the extent of its strategic utility. I may not flow it exactly, but will always try to keep track of what happens especially if important distinctions, solvency claims, evidence quality claims, etc. are being made during it.
Uniqueness is important for disadvantages, turns, and any impact otherwise you may be going for. I like affs that use tricks to mess with neg uniqueness, and I like neg link tricks that can make those irrelevant.
Conditionality is an issue which I would generally only vote on if the aff can show how the specific combination of advocacies of the neg strat in that round forced contradictory 2ac decisions and made aff getting offense/winning impossible.
I’m willing to listen to most counterplans that have solvency advocates, but can be swayed to the aff side of a lot of CP theory debates. I typically think rejecting the argument makes more sense than rejecting the team. In order to win a debate on a CP theory issue, I think an aff must demonstrate how the particular CP complicates the generation of offense against it for the 2ac. A 2ar that wants to win on such an argument should be prepared to discuss the questionable CP in the context of the rest of the debate and as it relates specifically to the content of the case in that debate. Maybe this distinction isn’t as significant as it sounds to me, but I would prefer to hear why THEIR international fiat/conditions/consult CP as read and deployed in THIS DEBATE was bad as opposed to theory-block reasons why those CPs in general are good or bad. This applies to K alternative and permutation arguments as well.
Clarity is important, and I think speed is no longer good if it is incomprehensible. Everyone should try to be nice and appropriately humorous. I will try to assign speaker points based on a holistic view of the quality of your performance in the debate.
*2020 updates:
Planless affs vs framework/T: I prefer specific topicality interpretations from the negative and specific role of the ballot/judge arguments from the aff. I am ok with debaters exploring the limits of debate and the topic and explaining their interpretations of how a debate should be decided.
Policy affs vs K: Same thing about role of the ballot/arguments about weighing the aff. I think both teams need to think a lot about how the alternative solves, how the aff solves, and how the permutation can work. It is ideal to explain these thoroughly and how each interacts with the links to the K.
Planless aff vs K: I have seen a few of these and am convinced the most important thing is to explain which "K world" I should operate in for my decision, aff's or neg's. Each "K world" has its own rules for how a debate should be decided and what theory best explains the harms. The preferred method of debate or solvency for the aff or the K alternative needs to be elaborated and defended.
Topic experience: I am pretty familiar with the topic but have yet to judge a round
Debate experience/background: I did four years of debate in high school starting with PF and shifting towards policy especially during my senior year. My partner and I placed ninth in 2013 at nationals in Birmingham. I debated on the national circuit frequently during my senior year. I have stayed in touch with my high school team and am helping with the current topic weekly.
General paradigm/philosophy: Tabula Rasa.
Speed: 9/10. Speed is fine.
Topicality: I tend only to vote on T if your opponents seriously mishandle an argument or if there is obvious in round abuse.
DAs: I definitely love disad debate but impact calc should be a major part of your 2NR if you are going for one.
CPs: Competitive counter plans are super neato
Kritiks: Make sure you understand the literature for your K if you plan on running one. I am familiar with a variety of these arguments so make sure you also have an understanding of what you are running. I love it when a team is actually passionate about their K.
Theory: It's fine
Non-Traditional/Performance debate: Go for it ヾ(âŒâ– _â– )ノ♪
Let me know if you have questions! My email is JonyRoss746@gmail.com.
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Updated March 2022 for championship season -- congratulations yall!
1. Just do what you do and do it well.I like every "style" of debate and have been lucky to debate, coach, or judge most over these past two decades. Thank you for being stewards of a beautiful game at a pivotal moment in debate history.
2. Above all. The 2NR/2AR should clearly describe what the most important issue(s) in the debate are, why they're the most important issues, and how voting your way best addresses them. Choose, compare, and dig in on a few A+ arguments over a greater volume of A- arguments.
3. Framework. I judge quite a few framework debates and like them. I don't have a strong "lean," but I do notice some slight trends;
-- For the neg, I often find that leaning on fairness/some procedural impact is best. It's the thing the neg's interp most often clearly solves relative to a counter-interp. I think the TVA + aff doesn't solve combo is an effective strategy. I often find that lots of direct pushback vs. case (even without evidence) is necessary and effective. If you don't win some significant defense to the aff it can complicate most paths to victory.
-- For the aff, it helps to clarify a role for each side and to negate/impact turn the neg's interp from there. If you don't have a description of why debating the aff is good and/or how the other team can engage then it can complicate most paths to victory. I am more moved by "here's what the neg could do" than counter-interpreting "resolved."
4. Evidence quality. It's very important, but the key to activating it in my RFD is rebuttal framing. The way evidence is utilized and framed in the final rebuttals is usually the most important variable in how I assess it. The easiest way to hypothesize which evidence I read is a simple if/then: if I hear a clip/quote/even an author name referenced directly in the last speech then I'll 100% read it. Beyond that I'll read for comprehension but that is less likely to drive the outcome of my RFD than direct framing by debaters.
5. Counterplans/theory. Not the worst judge for a funky counterplan. Most common 2AC theory objections seem like competition concerns remedied by kicking the counterplan. I'm not terrible for conditionality bad, but that's almost always because of tech concerns like a flippant block that doesn't answer the 2AC than truth concerns like any real aversion to conditionality (I generally think it's good).
6. Topicality. I haven't really judged a big T throwdown this year. If you prefer someone with no set preferences I'm great, but if you want someone to adhere to consensus I'm afraid I'm unsure what consensus is and will need more explanation than most. Despite my unfamiliarity with many interps, T has generally been an efficient/low-risk/high reward block option in past rounds I've judged.
7. Critiques. The more a K identifies specific parts of the 1AC/2AC that it disagrees with, the better. The aff should attempt to identify which parts of the aff are offense, why only the aff solves them, and why they outweigh. I generally think the aff gets to weigh the aff and most neg framework arguments just seem like impact calculus.
8. National championships!! Congrats again yall :) March 2022 will mark my first tournament judging in person since February 2020. I am thrilled to see you all again and to celebrate all you've done for debate. I know it's the national championship and it's tough to relax, but try as hard as you can to just have fun and enjoy it. Debate goes by way too fast and is very easy to take for granted. Sending all who read this the best of luck and hope you can lift each other up and give each other some really fun, challenging debates to end the season.
My name is pronounced loo-CHI-uh. She/ they.
Email chains > speech drop. lucia.scott at barstowschool.org
Speaks start at 28.5 and move up or down from there. If I think you should clear, I'll give you at least a 29. 27.9 cap on speaks if any of your docs are PDFs. Like, stop. Just stop.
Previous debating: K-State (2013-2016), Kapaun Mt. Carmel (2009-2013)
Coaching: Barstow (2018-Present), Baylor (2017-2018), Kapaun Mt. Carmel (2013-2017)
Meta things
I have almost certainly voted on everything I say I don't like in my paradigm at some point. At the end of the day, my goal is to intervene as little as possible. Might I be grumpy if I have to judge a 10 off debate with Deleuze, a Gregorian calendar procedural, an anarchy counterplan, and whatever that omnipotent AI that's going to kill us all is called? Yes. So grumpy. Will I vote on these arguments if you win the debate? Also yes. Will it affect your speaks? No. Grumpy adults shouldn't get to determine what debaters do.
I appreciate scrappy debate. If you like to use tricks to win, fine by me. If you think an argument is silly, it shouldn't be too hard to beat.
What I don't appreciate is cowardly debate. I don't love watching rounds where the core strat seems to be defending nothing. Debate is about arguments and controversy. Embrace it. It's awesome.
Tech over truth, but the less true an argument is, the less tech you need to beat it. This is particularly true of 1NC strats the just shove a bunch of garbage non-arguments in to try to freak out the 2A.
My threshold for explanation on un-answered arguments is incredibly low. I don't think the 2A should have to spend time explaining the internal links of an advantage that has one impact d card on it, or the 2N should have to spend time explaining a dropped alt. You do, however, need to tell me what the IMPLICATION of those dropped or mostly dropped arguments is in order for me to know how to evaluate them and how they interact with other flows.
Quality over quantity; what constitutes quality is, of course, up for debate.
Questions are not arguments. I see way too many 2NRs/2ARs that say, "What does the alt/aff even do?" instead of just explaining why it wouldn't do anything.
I read cards to make sure you aren't clipping, but what they actually say doesn't factor into my decision unless there's some contestation by the debaters about the content of the evidence. Don't let a team get away with reading garbage cards that don't say anything. I'm not going to make that argument for you.
Procedurals/ Theory
I get grumpy about arbitrary interps of theoretical arguments (conditionality, ROB's, really anything). This means I do think "conditionality bad" is a better interp than "they get three conditional advocacies." Relax, I don't actually think conditionality is bad, but I also don't think there's really a difference between three vs four or four vs five or five vs six conditional advocacies.
With the exception of conditionality, I default to theoretical objections are reasons to reject the argument or reasons that justify you also doing some theoretically illegit thing, like "perm do the counterplan."
For topicality, you need impacts. You're saying this team should lose the debate. That's a pretty steep punishment. You need to win more than just a violation here. What affs would be allowed under their interp that you shouldn't have to prepare for? What off case positions do you lose access to? Why does that matter?
I think "lit checks abuse" solves 90% of policy-based limits arguments. Aff teams should also make more arguments about why whatever ground the neg loses isn't ground they should have had in the first place. I think big topics are better than small topics provided those big topics have good neg generics. Politics and the states counterplan are not good neg generics.
Reasonability, to me, means that the neg had a reasonable amount of predictable ground, not that the aff is "reasonably topical," whatever that means. I don't think that means the aff's counter interp has to be "reasonable."
Case Debate
My favorite part of debate. I frankly like to vote neg on presumption, but the work done needs to be specific. I'm more likely to assign a low or no risk of the aff if there's a compelling internal link debate than if the 1AR dropped the third impact D card that's non-specific and two lines long.
I also think a well-leveraged aff can do a lot on other sheets of paper, especially when comparative work with the neg's offense is done.
Big pet peeve of mine is treating the aff like it's just one big page if it isn't. E.g. the 1AC had an advantage and a solvency contention, but the 1N just says "case" in their roadmap. Where on case? If it doesn't matter, you're not doing very good case debate. Same thing with the 2AC order. Why did you make the 1AC more than one page if you're not going to treat the pages as separate???
Your 2AC and 1AR advantage overviews are probably a waste of time in front of me. Overviews should frame, not merely explain.
DA's
This is where "quality over quantity" and "the less true and argument is, the less tech you need to beat it" become really important. Affs can beat bad disads on defense if affs explain why that defense is more important than everything the neg is saying (same goes for the neg with bad aff advantages). In terms of impact calc, I think probability is generally the most important. Zero risk is a thing. I default to uniqueness determines the direction of the link.
CP's
On balance, I think counterplans should be functionally and textually competitive. A 2A who's good at theory can win process counterplans just go away with enough work.
I think counterplans should have solvency advocates, especially if you've added seven planks just designed to fiat out of solvency deficits.
I will not kick the counterplan unless the neg makes an actual judge kick argument.
I am willing to vote aff on zero risk of a net benefit even if the counterplan solves 100% of the aff.
K's
I don't have any preferences as far as whatever lit base you like to read in debates. I'm not afraid of the big bad Baudrillard.
My threshold for a link here seems to be comparatively low. I think this "links must be to the plan text" argument people keep making is absolutely ridiculous. If you get to weigh the aff, I think the neg should get links to the advantages.
My threshold for the alt is relatively high. Examples are good. Structural analysis with examples is better. Under no circumstances should the aff let the neg get away with fiating the alt. That's absurd.
Framework strats are also viable in front of me, e.g. I will vote on "any risk the 1AC is a settler project means you vote neg" assuming you are, in fact, winning the framework debate. I can be persuaded not to weigh the aff, but you really have to commit to this strategy.
For the 2AC, stick to the things that are really important. Don't read things/ make arguments you'll never go for unless they're actually dropped. It's a waste of time you don't have.
Always ask about floating piks. It's usually only a floating pik if you don't ask about it.
Aff framework arguments that compare world-views (i.e. "extinction outweighs epistemology") are far more compelling than framework arguments about procedural fairness (i.e. "the K is cheating").
K Affs
I think it's reasonable for K affs to say that all they have to do is prove their method is good; if the method is good, I should vote for the aff. I don't think they need to "spill out" or whatever. I am generally not persuaded by "winning is key to our method" arguments. Probably means you've got a bad method. Similarly, not of fan of consciousness-raising arguments. I don't know why that means I should vote for you.
I think T violations that deal with substantive parts of the resolution are better than framework violations about the fg. I think affs should be making the argument that any education claims about the fg are non-unique; it's part of the topic every year. I think the neg should make arguments about why policy education on this specific topic is good.
Anything can be an impact if you tell me it's an impact and explain why it outweighs your opponent's impacts. I generally think, for the neg, fairness-based impacts provide the best external offense, and education-based impacts provide the best in-roads to the aff. Both the aff and the neg should be doing some comparative work about how education, fairness, and ethics implicate one another.
On balance, I think impact turn strats are better than counter interp strats for the aff in these debates. I think ethics arguments are the best offense for the aff. Affs can also internal link turn the majority of the neg's standards if they spend the time doing it instead of extending a wreck of random disads that are all basically the same.
I think the TVA and switch side are the best defense to the aff's impacts. I conceptualize TVAs as counterplans (an alternate mechanism to solve the same impacts while avoiding the net benefit, e.g. under limiting). That means I hold a TVA to similar standards; I think it should have to solve all or most of the aff and that the TVA should have a solvency advocate. Half the TVAs I hear aren't topical; not enough aff teams make this argument.
Other things:
New word Ks in the 2AR - okay, so this is tricky. I think if you do this, I think it needs to be the whole 2AR, and I think you should be held to an exceptionally high explanation standard. I think you should have to pre-empt the 3NR the neg doesn't get.
Arguments about micro-aggressions - Fine as long as you explain the implication for this debate/ perhaps the community as a whole. Tell me what you want me to do about it and what that does about the problem.
Arguments that compare conditionality to structural privilege - Fine as long as you warrant them. Just saying, "This is the logic of..." isn't enough; tell me why.
So clipping. If you have somehow misrepresented what you have read/ if there is not a way to tell from the speech doc what was read, you have clipped. I've had some recent judging experiences that are moving me toward clarity being a clipping issue. If I can't understand any of the words in your cards, and it seems like this is to get in more cards, that's probably clipping. If I catch clipping, I will make sure I'm sure (usually during prep time), and then stop the debate. If a debater accuses someone of clipping, the debate stops right then. If the challenger is correct, they win. If they are not correct, they lose. I don't really know what to do with speaks here, tbh. I will give the person who clipped a 0, but everyone else is probably going to get somewhere between a 28.5 and a 29.5.
Quick line for prep- The debate is yours to have on whatever you can justify making it be yourself and have a blast doing it no matter what people tell you. This is how you choose to spend your time so you shoudl enjoy doing it whith whatever arguments you want to make. Have fun, Read or do whatever you want. Aslo my Debate Partner is Chris Miles if you know how he judges i will probably evaluate a round incredibly simularly.
Hello,
My name is Michael Smith, I am currently a debater for Missouri Western State University and an Alumni of KCKCC.l. I debated Policy Debate in High School and was exposed to both lay style debating and nat circuit style of debating. I have also been involved in the DKC community and have judged a very large amount of rounds especially on the MO and KS circuits as well as rounds at nationals. In high school I debated "traditional" policy affs until later in my high school career I became a more technical K debater. At KCKCC and Missouri Western I debate the K very heavily as well as method/performance style arguments. I would like to think that I have a decent understanding in all base forms of argumentation, and do not prefer one over another. That being said I default to Tabula Rasa unless told otherwise. Look below to see how I evaluate specific arguments.
PLEASE SLOW DOWN AND READ ALL TEXT TWICE (PLAN, ALT, PERM, ECT.) and/or GIVE ME A COPY PLZ
The K,
I prefer the K with large overviews and have probably a better than most understanding of most of the lit with special reagards to more favored authors (Baudrillard, Marx, amongst varrying other brancehs of capitalistic thought, Derrida, and Bataille). I believe that the K will almost always need more than a link of omission or a state link in order to win in front of me, unless clerically explained. I think there needs to be a clear link story, alt story, and impact story. I am a fan of the floating PiK but if that is the goal I don't believe you should hide it in the debate, and will not vote on one unless there is a strong chance that the aff links to the Criticism. I have a higher threshold on perms when there is only one off case position, and I believe that it is a test of competitiveness not an advocacy. In the world where the perm is made I will evaluate it on the risk of solvency vs the risk of the K impacts. I also think that link packaging makes the debate cleaner especially later in the debate. If you choose to not read an alternative that is ok.
Theory,
I have a pretty high threshold on theory and will very rarely will I reject the team, unless there are multiple off case positions kicked in the 2NR or some other wacky amount of abuse. All levels of theory need to be impacted out. That said I believe that you can use the theory flow to get offense on other parts of the flow. I prefer to flow this on a separate sheet so tell me in the road map. I also believe that the negative should avoid making contradictory arguments (Performative-Contradictions are probably bad) and can be used as offense. Slow down a little bit for theory at least for the interpretation and violation, if you want me to vote on it then it is in both of our interest that I have a clean flow.
Framework,
I have been on both sides of the framework flow, and I think that both sides need to be making offensive arguments on the framework flow. I believe that framework should try to include the most debaters as possible and should not be exclusionary, I am naturally going to prefer those arguments over just basic fairness and education debates. The problem I see most often on the framework flow is that no one is making strong impact analysis. I do have a higher threshold than many straight policy judges on this question, and tend to err a little to the left of center. I also do evaluate impact turns as offense that can be a potential win even if the 2NR doesn't go for it. That being said you do you, and I'll do my best to keep up.
Topicality,
Is an underutilized tool inside of debate, language is a device of understanding and agreement that allows conversations to happen and becomes even more important in evironments such as debate. The way you posit the discussion or dont have direct implication son the round and how it plays out or could have played out. My threshold is probably lower than most on T, and I also almost always default to competing interpretations unless told otherwise.
DA/ CP
I group these two areas because I believe that all cp's should have a net benefit. I am not a fan of consult cp's and think that they steal a large amount of ground. If that is the argument you are going to make you will need to win a high chance of the net benefit. I refuse to vote for cp's that do not have a form of net benefit. I handle perms on the CP the same way I evaluate them on the K. I will vote on da's including politics I like good politics debates, as long as the internal links are solid.
Offense vs. Defense,
I'm pretty pessimistic. I will vote on terminal defense. I may have a higher chance of voting on terminal defense than some other judges. That being said I think you should always be extending offense before defense. In debates between systemic impacts and magnitude impacts, impact framework is very important.
Aff's
Don't have much to say. You do you tell me why to vote aff, if you're not topical tell me why that is ok, etc. I am not a massive fan of try or die arguments, so saying it 200 times in the 2AR isn't going to get you very far with me, say it once that's fine (if you say it more than that then you are probably missing larger issues). I have also noticed a trend of 1AC's not having very good internal's in the advantages and this trend frustrates me. I also see a lot of non-inherent aff's if it becomes an issue I will vote on it. Again you do you.
Performance,
I am all for this kind of argumentation as long as you are telling me why you are doing it and why your method is something that I should to vote for. I also prefer some form of thesis statement as a center for advocacy. Don't just sing for "funzies" give me tangible reasons to why your performance is an endorsement of a methodology that I should endorse with the ballot.
Overall, do what you do and tell me why it is important and you are in a good position. If you want to have a massive MURKA heg throwdown debate I am game. I am also cool with talking about why van gogh cut off his ear and anything in between. I will try to give non verbals when I can because I think they a
Paradigm - Will Starks
I debated 4 years at Kapaun Mt. Carmel (Wichita, KS) in highschool and I debated American Parli at Washburn University and won NPDA, made second place at the national round robin, and finished 4th at NPtE.
Topicality/Framework:
If you can't defend your Aff against these two things that's bad. That's why I evaluate these arguments. However, if there's not an a priori voter on these two things that leaves the question of what should be evaluated first, which I will have to intervene for. Don't just say it's an a priori issue, either, though. If you do, and they do very good impact comparison, I will probably choose their impact comparison. Why are T and Framework a priori issues? If you have a warrant, I will evaluate it in its entirety. I don't completely sway toward Identity/K arguments though, so don't pretend Framework is a lost cause in front of me. I think there are very good arguments on both sides for prioritization, and it will be more meaningful if Framework is framed as a competing methodology. If you read Framework and tell me their aff is excluding you because they read a narrative I will not be very happy with you.
Debate Strategies
1. Straight Case: A very good strategy in my opinion since most teams aren't ready to defend their aff from 8 minutes of offense. My partner and I in college have won elim debates on this strategy and I am very confident in evaluating these debates.
2. DA/CP: The great Buzzsaw, I love it, just don't assume the CP solves the aff and garners the net benefit. A problem with a lot of these debates is the CP doesn't solve the aff and the debate devolves down to whether or not the Net Benefit is more desirable than the case advantages. Outside great impact comparison, usually the Aff wins these debates because they just have better offense to the status quo. Make the debate clean for me and explain to me the world of the CP and the world of the Aff.
3. Criticisms: are my favorite. I'm well read on a number of critical theories. Baudrillard is one of my favorite arguments, but I am also well read on D&G, Foucault (Biopower), Said (Orientalism), Wilderson, Butler, Fanon, Bell Hooks, Nietzsche, Marx, and Bataille. Although I have a diversity of knowledge about criticisms, you still need to debate your K well. I will know if you haven't read a book, and I can tell when you have a 'Frankenstein K' that is made up of multiple authors with an alternative that doesn't resolve the links. The problem with a lot of Kritik teams is that their Alternatives are not well written, and not thought about as much as they should be. I take hours to develop an Alternative text, but that may be because Parli Debate places a lot more importance on theoretical legitimacy and solvency.
4. Theory: is very strategic if used well. I don't really care if you use it as a time trade off, but I think the problem with people who do that is they'll kick a very legitimate theory position that they could win on. Just be strategic about it. Don't try to fall back on something you're more comfortable with extending in the rebuttals especially when the other team has a risk of winning on it.
AFFS
1. I like Identity Affs, especially performative ones. My partner and I have ran multiple Identity aff's including one with rap lyrics that we wrote specifically about debate. I honestly think if you have to justify your aff coming out of the 1 AC, that is unfair, considering policy teams don't have to justify theirs. But, it's good to pre-empt the usual framework/case strategy.
2. Policy affs - are fine and I like hegemony debates.
Pretty much everything.
non-black subjects shouldn’t read anti-blackness arguments unless done in good faith.
I don't mind speed reading, as long as you slow down for major points and highlight your main ideas at the end with elaboration.
The team with the better arguements is the team that wins. The team that is better, is the team that wins.
That includes:
No dropped Arguments
Consistant cards and composed reading
I love a good and fast paced cross-ex. Have questions ready so it doesn't end up with lots of pauses. Own your c-x and stay agressive. At the same time, make sure you don't get tacky and loud.
Never conced to the opposing team just because you can't think of anything else to say. With that, make sure you clearly understand each pland and counterplan (if applicable). When you aren't sure of the details, ask. It doesn't mean weakness to ask questions for clarifcaiton.
Other than that, just try your best!
Debated 4 years for Lawrence High School - Policy, LD, and PFD.
Debated 1 year for Kansas City Kansas Community College - Policy and Puff
I will break this down by topic area - might be easier - sorry if unclear just ask me.
BOTH TEAMS NEED TO KNOW ABOVE EVERYTHING ELSE
-Roadmaps and flashing are OFF-TIME.
-I have no preference to open or closed cross-ex, do what you want.
-Do not speak and give arguments if it is not your speech, it's distracting, it's bad debate, and I won't listen.
-If I stop flowing or crumple up/throw away the flow, I've either already voted or I no longer care, just stop.
-Debate how you are comfortable debating - I'm flexible - but don't just refuse to answer an argument because you don't know how.
-Speaks are based on the quality/clarity of your speech - the way you answer stuff.
-If you don't know what you're saying or don't understand the argument you're running - everybody knows, it looks bad, and I don't want to hear it.
TOPICALITY
-I love T debates - they're the best - but T is won and lost in the standards/voters debate. You say that T is a voter (for education/equity/etc.) but no one ever tells me why that's even important or what the impacts to being not topical are. If you wanna go for being not topical means bad debate - fine. If you wanna go all the way to being untopical underlimits the topic and is inequitable to minorities - perfect - take it all the way to cultural genocide if you want to. But for the love of all that is good and holy, please take it somewhere. You have to compare standards - tell me why yours are more important/outweigh or why they apply more to your arguments than the other teams.
-If you say "reasonability" or "judge's discretion", I swear on everything that I will stop flowing T and give it to the other team - you are lazy debating - it is not my job to convince my own self who is topical/not topical and why that's important - I am not paid enough to do so.
-Topicality is NOT an RVI.
-Aff teams: if you wanna say you don't need to be topical - great, that's a bomb debate - but you better be winning why being topical is comparatively worse than being not topical.
DISADVANTAGES/ADVANTAGES
-Please be smart. You only need to take out uniqueness, links, or impacts. For example, I no longer care about uniqueness or impacts if the links are crap.
-If you wanna link turn the crap out of something and steal the other teams’ impacts -beautiful (this is not lazy debate this is smart debate) - the time you could've spent reading impact cards you can spend on something you're actually losing.
K
-I will listen. If you can't explain your alternative/methodology - I'm done. And I mean really explain it, beyond "reject the aff", I need to know that you understand and can explain exactly how your impacts travel outside of the debate room and how your alt works in the real world.
-On the flip side, if you don't argue something against K flow, I no longer care, it's over, you've conceded.
FRAMEWORK
-This better be damn clear. If I don't understand, I'm throwing the flow away. There better be a reason why I should view the debate the way you want me to and it has to be different than what the other team wants - otherwise why are you running this?
COUNTERPLANS
-I ONLY vote for CPs if they prove a COMPARATIVE ADVANTAGE TO THE AFF. If they solve the same things, have equal impacts, or aren't better than the aff in some way, I vote aff.
CASE
-Make sure you pull through - even if they don't say anything on it. It's so easy - I'll probably dock your speaks if you don't.
-I love case debates and I will vote on stock issues.
DROPPED ARGUMENTS
-This is only ever important if you make it a voting issue. Go for it, or don't.
NEW IN THE 2
-I'll listen to both sides, I think there is a debate to be had. But it's only an issue if there really is some sort of abuse.
THEORY
-I'm all sorts of good here. You run what you want - but you gotta win it and it needs to be clear.
IMPACT CALC
-I believe in this. Timeframe/magnitude/probability are real issues.
-I believe in theory here. If one of the holy trinity should be held more important than the rest - please say so - I will vote on this,
SPEED
-I don't really buy speed K's anymore since we're all getting copies of the speech docs.
-Do not clip cards because you're reading too fast.
LINE BY LINE/SIGN POSTING
-This is important. This is necessary to keep rounds running smoothly.
SPECIFICITY
-I might listen here. Cross-ex usually checks, but there are times when teams are just making up answers and pulling stuff out of thin air. But if you're going to run this, there better be a damn good cross-ex and abuse if I'm gonna vote here.
ABUSE
-I am only voting here if you make it a voting issue with clear impacts, and I might stop the round depending on how serious the abuse claim is. But then again I might not - you gotta be making this a big ordeal.
I think that's about it. If I've missed something, just ask me before round starts.
I am a flow judge. I will listen to any argument. Argumention is the heart of debate and weighs heaviest on my ballot. Clear arguments and reasoning for how a round should be decided, especially in those last two rebuttals, will weigh heaviest in my decision. At the end of the day, your argumentation should decide any round.
I debated for 3 years @ Washburn Rural
I debated for 4 years @ Emporia State (NDT '08)
I am the Director of Debate at Lawrence Free State HS (7th year at FS, 15th year as a head coach, 23rd year in Policy Debate)
*Please add me to the email chain if one exists: kmikethompson@gmail.com
tl;dr
I will do my best to answer any questions that you have before the debate.
-I don't care how fast you talk, but I do care how clear you talk. I'm unlikely to clear you but it will be obvious if I can't understand you because I won't be flowing and I communicate non-verbally probably more than most other judges. This is particularly relevant in online debate.
-I don't care what arguments you read, but I do care whether you are making arguments, responding to opposition arguments, and engaging in impact calculus (your arg v their arg, not just your arg) throughout the debate.
-I don't care what aff you read, if you defend a plan, or if you debate on the margins of the topic, but I do care if you have offensive justifications for your decisions, and if you solve.
-If you're reading generic link arguments or CP solvency cards - it will matter a great deal how well you can contextual that generic evidence to the specific affirmative plan.
-I think teams should be willing to go for theory more.
Some top level thoughts:
1) "New in the 2" is bad for debate. Barring an affirmative theoretical objection - I'll evaluate you arguments and not intervene despite my bias. But, if the other team makes an argument about it - I will disregard all new positions read in the negative block.
2) Neg ground on this topic is not very good. I'm sympathetic to the negative on theoretical objections of counterplans as a result.
3) If you're flowing the speech doc and not the speech itself you deserve to be conned in to answering arguments that were never made in the debate, and to lose to analytic arguments (theory and otherwise) that were made while you were busy staring at your screen.
4) People should assume their opponent's are winning some arguments in the last rebuttals. A decision to assume you're winning everything nearly guarantees that you are incorrect and minimizes the likelihood that you're doing relevant impact calculus. I really think "even-if" statements are valuable for final rebutalists.
-My speaker point scale has tended to be:
29+ - you should be in elimination debates at this tournament, and probably win one or more of those rounds
28.5 - you are competing for a spot to clear but still making errors that may prevent you from doing so. Average for the division/tournament.
28 - you are slightly below average for the division/tournament and need to spend some time on the fundamentals. Hopefully, I've outlined in my notes what those are.
27.5 - there were serious fundamental errors that need to be corrected.
Topicality- I really enjoy T debates, I think competing interpretations is probably true and find reasonability arguments to be uncompelling almost always. That said, this topic is kinda awful for T debates. If you're not topical you should have an offensive reason that you're not. If you are topical then you should win why your vision of the resolution is superior to the negatives.
Critiques- K debaters tend to spend an extraordinary amount of time on their link arguments, but no time on explaining how the alternative resolves them. Affirmatives tend to concede K tricks too often.
Counterplans - I like smart, aff specific counter plans more than generic, topic type counter plans.
Critical affs - I'm fine with K affs and deployed them often as a debater. I find it difficult to evaluate k affs with poorly developed "role of the ballot" args. I find "topical version of the aff" to be compelling regularly, because affs concede this argument. I have been more on the "defend topical action" side of the framework debate in the last two years or so. I'm not sure why, but poorly executed affirmative offense seems to be the primary cause.
Debated for Kansas City Kansas Community College
Sophomore at Emporia State University
As I've debated more rounds and learned more, this page has gone through substantial changes. So, if I judged you earlier this year, a new read would serve you well, but if you read nothing else on this page: 2NR/2AR needs to frame the round and tell me how to vote.
If you've come to this page, I appreciate your attempt to adapt to my preferences, however, don't do anything that you aren't comfortable with. Do you and I will do the best I can to evaluate it, but I have come to believe the following about debate:
1. Speed: in short, I believe that speed is generally good for debate and don't have a preferene when it comes to rate of delivery. It would probably be smart to slow down on incredibly lengthy taglines or big picture overviews that make significant arguments about the round.
2. I will vote on framework: this means I will vote neg on it, but I will also vote on impact turns or offense on the argument. I think you should be able to defend the form of debate that your interp advocates for, so choose wisely. Additionally, when giving topical versions of the affirmative, on this position or on topicality, I believe you need to explain specifically how it resolves the impacts of the 1AC. If you're going for any impacts on framework as a sort of net-benefit, you need to frame that impact in the round and be able to explain a decent internal link.
3. I generally think the aff should interact with the topic. Regardless of whether you are a policy or K team, I think your argument should respond to the topic and interact with it in some way. However, I don't believe that being topical is being the same thing as resolutional so K teams you're fine, but I still believe your method should respond to the topic in some form or fashion.
4. I default competing interps, but could be persuaded by reasonability if I'm given a clear explanation of what reasonability means in context of the aff or the round. I think that generally, reasonability requires intervention unless debaters go more into depth about what reasonability means in this instance as opposed to debate in general.
5. Compare impacts - I'm usually more persuaded by probability or timeframe versus magnitude - especially if you both are trying to win the same impacts. And regardless of whether you're going for a policy impact, epistomology, ontology, or something else, its your job to tell me why I prefer your impact over everything else in the debate.
6. I think conditionality is good. I think that the neg should be able to test the aff from multiple angles - especially in the 1NC. Can you read contradictory advocacies in the 1NC? Sure. I have been persuaded that there is a performative disadvantage to this in specific instances, however, I don't really believe the 1NC has to be ideologically consistent. This isn't to say that I haven't voted on condo bad or gone for condo bad as a 2AR. I'm just saying it is an uphill battle, but if you win the argument, you win the argument. But, if you're going for theory, you need to do more than just read your block and spew words at me. You need to do further analysis besides the sentence that is written on your block - this is true for both aff or neg.
7. Presumption - I've gone back and forth with this one. There are people in the debate community who argue that presumption flips aff if the neg goes for an advocacy in the 2NR. On the otherside, there are people who believe that presumption is always an option and the neg can defend the squo and and advocay in the last rebuttal. I don't have a hard fast stance on this issue yet and could probably be persuaded both ways. To avoid any mess, 2NRs if you're going for an advocacy and the squo, frame it as an "even if" route. Affs, if you establish that presumption flips aff if they go for an advocacy in the 2NR, do it before the 2AR and it would make life easier for me because the neg could have a chance to respond or kick the advocacy.
8. Case - love case debates and we've had some good rounds this year where we went all in on case. I think that case debates very underutilized, but I love them. I'm not sure why I like them so much, but I'm always up for negatives picking apart the case. I think the aff should have to defend their advocacy, their evidence, and their performance (as should the neg), so I think it is really cool when teams hold them to that.
9. K's - I've really only dealt with K lit for a few years so I can't say I know the evidence or arguments incredibly well. However, as the year has gone on, I enjoyed being in and evaluating these debates. I think it is interesting and persuasive when your kritik interacts with the topic, however, that isn't to say I won't listen it if it doesn't. Generally the alt is the weakest part of your criticism and explaining clearly to me what the alt does and how it functions in and out of the debate space will serve you well. I wasn't really sure where to put the perm section, but as I've learned more this season, my view on perms has changed significantely. My view on perms applies to both counterplans and kriticisms. I believe that perms are purely a test of mutual exclusivity. Your perm doesn't solve and its not an additional advocacy for you to go for. Perms that are framed as solvency mechanisms are subject to offense against it and theoretical reasons to reject it. I have come to view perms as more of a question of linkage and terminal defense to your CP/K as opposed to a specific solvency mechanism.
10. Counterplans - last year gave me a newfound respect and appreciation for counterplans. I've come to enjoy running and judging counterplan debates. When it comes to PICs, I appreciate a well-thought out PIC that solves for the impacts of the aff, however, I think there is a major risk of a solvency deficit when it comes to PICs and affs would do well to capitalize on that fact. As long as you are ready to defend the solvency of your counterplan, you are fine. For condo theory see above. For PICs bad or other counterplan theory, I don't have a predisposition that is set in stone. I don't have a problem with PICs, but could see a reason they are bad for fairness/education or debate in general. I can't say I've ever voted for PICs bad theory, but I'm not set against it.
11. While I don't like debaters being cruel just to be cruel, some humor and shade in the round is alright as long as it isn't too malicious. I think you should generally all be concerned about the well-being of your opponents, but as long as you avoid being physically or verbally violent, you'll be fine.
-Director of Debate at Little Rock Central High School
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Virtual Debate Updates:
I am almost always using two computers so I can watch you speak and flow/look at docs. I would prefer that you debate with your camera on so that I can watch you speak, but PLEASE do feel free to turn it off if doing so stabilizes your audio.
Do NOT start at top speed. You should start a little slower anyway to allow judges to get acclimated to your speaking style, but I think this is especially important in virtual debate.
Do I understand why you don't want to flash theory/overviews/analytics? Of course. Do you have to do it? No. Will I be mad at you if you don't? Of course not. Would it help me flow better in many virtual debates? YES.
TL;DR
Do what you do and do it well. I will vote for who wins. Over-adaptation is exhausting and I can smell your soft-left add-ons a mile away. My voting record is a pretty clear indication that I judge a wide variety of debates. Who/what I coach(ed) are generally good indications of what I am about. Update: I've found myself recently in some seven off rounds. I really hate to say I am bad for any kind of debate, but I am bad for these rounds. Late-breaking debates make me tired and grumpy, and I find myself having to do way too much work in these debates to resolve them. If seven off is your thing, and I am your judge, do what you do I guess, but know this is probably the only explicit "don't pref me" in this whole paradigm.
Evidence/Argumentation/General
I care a lot about quality of evidence. I would much rather hear you read a few well-warranted cards than a wave of under-highlighted evidence. Same goes for redundant evidence; if you need six cards that “prove” your claim with the same words interchanged in the tag, your claim is probably pretty weak. Evidence does not (alone) a (winning) argument make.
I think I flow pretty throughly. I often flow in direct quotes. I do this for me, but I feel like it helps teams understand my decision as we talk after a round. I reward organized speakers and meaningful overviews. I am easily frustrated by a messy card doc.
I listen closely to cross-ex.
Ks
Neg teams lose when they don’t demonstrate how their arguments interact with the 1AC. Winning that the affirmative is “flawed” or “problematic” does not guarantee a neg ballot. In my mind, there are two ways to win the k versus a policy aff: either win that the effects of the plan make the world significantly worse OR win framework and go for epistemology/ontology links. Know when framework is important and when it’s not. Give analysis as to how your links implicate the world of the aff. This is where case mitigation and offense on why voting affirmative is undesirable is helpful. These debates are significantly lacking in impact calculus. Also - the alt needs to solve the links, not the aff - but if it does, great! If you win framework, this burden is lessened. Don’t spread through link explanations. I am seeing more debates where teams kick the alt and go for the links as disads to the aff. This is fine, but be wary of this strategy when the alt is what provides uniqueness to the link debate.
Conversely, affs typically lose these debates when there is little press on what the alternative does and little analysis of perm functions. However, some teams focus on the alt too much and leave much to be desired on the link debate (especially important for soft-left affs). Defend your reps. Your framework shell should also include a robust defense of policymaking, not just procedural fairness. The 1AR should actually answer the block’s framework answers. More impact turning rather than defensive, no-link arguments.
Also, running to the middle will not save you. Some Ks are going to get a link no matter what, and tacking on a structural impact to your otherwise straight policy aff will likely only supercharge the link. So. Read the aff you'd read in front of anybody in front of me. You're probably better at that version anyway.
K Affs vs. FW
For affs: I’m good for these although I do think that oftentimes the method is very poorly explained. Neg teams should really press on this and even consider going for presumption. Side note: I absolutely do not think that critical affs should have to win that the ballot is key for their method. Against framework, I most frequently vote aff when the aff wins impact turns that outweigh the neg’s impacts and have a counter-interp that resolves the majority of their offense. I can still vote for you if you don’t have a counter-interp in the 2AR but only if the impact work is exceptional. I prefer affs that argue that the skills and methods produced under their model inculcate more ethical subjectivities than the negative’s. The best aff teams I’ve seen are good at contextualizing their arguments, framing, and justifying why their model and not their aff is uniquely good. I am most frequently preffed for K v K debates. Judge instruction is extremely important I would rather evaluate those rounds based on whose method is most relevant to the debate rather than k tricks.
For neg teams: I like to see framework deployed as debate methodologies that are normatively good versus debate methodologies that are undesirable and should be rejected. Framework debates should center on the impact of certain methodologies on the debate space. “Your argument doesn’t belong in debate” is not the same thing as “your argument is hindered by forum” or “your argument makes it functionally impossible to be negative.” (fun fact: I read a lot of judges' paradigms/preferences..."debate is a game" does not = debate is a good game, and participation in that "game" does not = can't say the game is bad). I prefer more deliberation & skills-based framework arguments rather than procedural fairness, but I will vote on either as long as you have warrants and comparative impact analysis. If going for skills & research impacts, the internal link debate is most important. TVAs are great as defense against the aff’s impact turns. They do not have to solve the aff but should address its central controversy.
I feel similarly about theory debates in that they should focus on good/undesirable pedagogical practices. Arguments that explain the role of the ballot should not be self-serving and completely inaccessible by a particular team.
Topicality
Topicality is a voting issue and never a reverse voting issue. T debates are won and lost on the standards level. If the affirmative wins that their interpretation solves the impact of topicality, then I see no reason to vote negative. Thorough T debates are about more than fairness. The idea that you have no game on an aff in this era is just not as persuasive as the idea that the aff’s interpretation negatively impacts future debates.
Disadvantages/Counterplans
No real issues here. Specific links to case obviously preferred to generic arguments. Give me good impact analysis. As a debater, counterplans weren’t really my jam. As a judge, I can’t say that I get to vote on CPs often because they are typically kicked or are not competitive enough to survive an affirmative team well-versed in permutations. A CP should be something to which I can give thoughtful consideration. Don’t blow through a really complicated (or long) CP text. Likewise, if the permutation(s) is intricate, slow down. Pretty sure you want me to get these arguments down as you read them, not as I reconstruct them in cross. I vote for theory as much as I don’t vote for theory. No real theoretical dispositions.
Arkansas Circuit
1. I’m not going to bump your speaks for thanking me and taking forever to start the round because you’re asking “opponent ready? judge ready? partner ready? observers ready?” for the first 20 minutes.
2. If you do not take notes during my RFD, I will leave.
3. Don’t clip. Why do debaters in Arkansas clip so much? Answer: Because I don’t judge very much in Arkansas.
4. Keep your own time.
Mitch Wagenheim
4 years debated in HS, assistant coaching since 2015. Last updated September 2022
If we’re still doing email chains, I’d prefer to be on them: mwagenheim@outlook.com
Overview:
My basic paradigm is that I will vote on almost anything so long as you win the argument and demonstrate that argument is sufficient to win the round. I used to be more of a policymaker judge but have become less attached to that framing. I firmly believe in tech over truth within the scope of the round. The only exceptions to this are arguments or types of discourse that seek to exclude people from the activity (racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.) If your arguments fall into the above categories, you will lose my ballot regardless of anything else on the flow. I am wiling to vote on almost anything. What follows are my general views on arguments and I can be convinced otherwise on any of them.
Specifics:
- For theory arguments, you need to specify a compelling reason to reject the team. Saying “reject the team, not the argument” is not actually an argument.
- Topicality is often an underdeveloped argument in rounds I’ve seen.
- If you are running a K aff, it should have something to do with the resolution. It doesn’t need to be topical in the same way a policy aff does, but there should be a clear reason why it’s directly relevant to the topic. If you don’t want to engage the topic for whatever reason, you’ll need some strong framing why.
- I can generally follow the theory of your K, but make sure to clearly articulate your arguments and don’t just read blocks. Your alt needs to be supported by the literature base and somehow mutually exclusive with the affirmative. ROB/ROJ arguments are extremely helpful.
- In terms of familiarity with critical arguments/authors I’m pretty conversant in Fem/Fem IR/Security/Foucault/Heidegger as well as the basic Cap/Imperialism/etc. arguments. Topics like Afropessimism/Queer IR or less common authors (Baudrillard for example) I can generally follow, but am less knowledgable about.
- DAs should have a clear link story and generic disads generally don’t hold much strategic value.
- Smart analytics are just as valuable as cards.
- Clarity is substantially more important than speed. If you are unclear, I’ll give you a warning if you’re unclear but it’s up to you to make sure you are communicating. If I miss something because you’re unclear, that argument won’t be considered.
Overall, do what you are comfortable with as best as you can. Don’t let my preferences discourage you from running your strategy.
I would like to be part of the email chain. Please send documents to henryjwalter@gmail.com
One partner, one speech
One team, two debaters
Speech times and prep as assigned in the tournament invitation
Speeches start when the timer begins and prep may not be used once the speech starts
Affirmatives must at least disclose the 1ac plan and advantages (assuming it has been read before) and may only say "new" if neither the plan nor advantages have been read by the team OR by anyone else on their squad. The negative must disclose at least past 2NR and 1NC offense.
DON'T CLIP
Speed – Be clearer than you are fast.
Topicality – It is hard to persuade me that the aff should not read a topical plan.
CPs – pay attention to your text.
Ks on the neg – The aff should get to weigh its impacts and the neg should get an alt that takes an action to solves its impacts. PIKs, floating or not, are easily disposed of by a theory argument. Role of the ballot/judge arguments are typically unpersuasive - I believe my role as the judge is to decide who won the debate and the role of the ballot is to communicate my decision.
Condo/Theory - Any non-condo theoretical argument (eg 50-state fiat, international fiat, agent CPs) is a reason to reject the argument, not the team.
Questions? Ask.
In my ideal debate world, the affirmative would read a topical plan and defend the implementation of that plan. The negative would read disadvantages, counterplans, and case turns/defense. Topical research is probably my most favorite part of debate, so I would assume that I would have a tendency to reward teams that I see as participating in the same way I view the game.
I get that my ideal debate world isn't everyone's ideal debate world. I also vote for teams that prefer to run Topicality, Kritiks, or other arguments as their "go to" strategies. Good critical debaters explain specific links to the affirmative case and spend some time discussing how their argument relates to the impacts that are being claimed by the affirmative team. I also think it helps a lot to have specific analogies or empirical examples to prove how your argument is true/has been true throughout history.
I expect that paperless teams will be professional and efficient about flashing evidence to the other team. It annoys me when teams flash large amounts of evidence they don't intend to read or couldn't possibly read in a speech to the other team and expect them to wade through it. It should go without saying that I expect that you won't "steal" prep time in the process of flashing, or any other time really. It also annoys me when teams don't flow just because they are "viewing" the evidence in real time.
I expect that teams will post their cites to the wiki as soon as the debate is over, and ideally before I give my decision and otherwise participate in information sharing efforts.
I like to have a copy of speeches flashed to me as well so I can follow along with what everyone else sees in the debate and because I think it makes the decision making process go faster.
The best way to get high speaker points from me is to be clear, be polite, participate fully in your cross-examinations and use them to your advantage to point out flaws in your opponents’ arguments, try hard, and use appropriate humor.
Ask me questions if this doesnt cover what you need to know or you can't find the answer from someone else that I have judged/coached. Obviously there will be tons of other things I think about debates that I haven't posted here. Have fun.
Put Mikaela.Wefald@duffandphelps.com on the email chain as well please!
**Covid Updates
I don't care about having your screen on or not - just try to verbalize when you take prep - let's just all try and be as transparent as possible about tech problems and delays.
General Information
I debated for 4 years in high school at Manhattan HS in Kansas
I debated on and off for KU in college
I was a 1A/2N which probably biases my thoughts on debate more than I am self reflexively aware
General Opinions
There are very few things that I will not tolerate or listen to in a debate, in terms of arguments. In terms of being a person in a debate, be a good one.
I don’t judge or research on this topic frequently – if you’re reading critical arguments don’t assume link arguments are a foregone conclusion, likewise I don’t have particularly strong prejudices about whether certain affs are topical or untopical.
Here are some things I’ve noticed about the way I judge debates –
Affs that do not defend the topic and Framework – I think affs that do not talk about the topic in a “traditional” manner are always acceptable and consistently interesting. I think framework debates are also important. A framework debate will need to be contextual to the affirmative - I'm interested in what the topic looks like under each interpretation.
Counterplans – I love counterplan debates. Whether the counterplan solves is generally not a yes or no question for me – I’m willing to consider degrees of solvency, but these arguments must be impacted out by both teams. If the CP doesn’t solve all of the aff, which parts are disads? Similarly what amount of defense vs the aff does this give the neg? I think the wordings of counterplans are important.
Theory – I lean heavily towards rejecting the argument on everything except conditionality but can certainly be persuaded otherwise. The more specific theory is to the debate at hand, the more I tune in. If a counterplan is cheating, I won’t make that decision on my own, the aff needs to read and win theoretical debates.
Topicality – I am concerned about what type of topic each interpretation generates. In terms of reasonability vs competing interpretations – I think each are persuasive in different contexts – this is certainly not a settled debate for me.
Kritiks – I’m much less picky about the arguments and authors you read as long as the aff is the core focus of the debate. Meaning: I’m less familiar with a lot of critical literature but I will listen to anything you want to read. I also think link arguments should talk about what the aff does rather than general links, etc. I’m lenient towards a 1AR that does not answer the block links individually due to time constraints, but a 2AR going for a permutation needs to do all of that legwork. A 2NR that wants to win should talk about the aff. The alternative should be explained, I don’t care for debates that ask me to assume the alt resolves things without a discussion and defense of that alt.
In terms of case and disad debates – I like them. I don’t think I have particularly new or different opinions about them, hence the lack of discussion.
Currently leaving this blank due to doxxing of judges. Ill update again before the season or debaters can email me for a copy. SovietHistory2396@gmail.com
I am now old. I have been debating/coaching since 1995. I have coached state champions, national qualifiers, recipients of TOC bids, as well as terrible, terrible teams that confused hegemony with Heidegger.
I believe in the resolution. Not this specific resolution and not as an affirmation statement, but as a source of educational insight and means of creating competitive equity. That being said, the manner in which either of these things are achieved are entirely up to the debaters. I do not care if you affirm the federal government, present legislative action, etc., but what I do ultimately care about though is that you engage the resolutional topic directly (oceans, surveillance, etc.).
I will absolutely listen to framework and topicality arguments arguing about the validity of USFG action, especially in terms of roleplaying, but I have no predisposition in terms of its value. Impact analysis regarding fairness and education should drive this debate.
I hate multiple world arguments, especially when it is demonstrated with conflicting kritik alternatives and/or counterplans. The negative can have the SQ and one other option, but not 12. It makes for bad debate and I have yet to see anyone prove to me otherwise.
I enjoy strategy, especially well executed and specific strategies that both criticize the Affirmative and present a viable alternative. DA/CP/K combinations that all interact appropriately will go a long way with me.
I want debate to be enjoyable. I know that rage, anger, passion, etc. all play into the natural affect of the activity, but being mean or rude just for the sake of argumentation will make me dislike you. I do this because I love the activity and you should too.
I am well read in international relations literature (securiziation, feminist IR, queer IR, realism, etc.) but a lot of the post-modern and identity literature is new to me. Run what you want, but do not assume I am well versed in the terminology to assess your arguments on that alone.
Intro
Hi there. My name is Jordan and I participated in policy debate for two years at Field Kindley Memorial High School (Coffeyville, KS – Southeast KS circuit). I also did four years of Forensics with an emphasis on Lincoln-Douglas Debate, Foreign Extemporaneous Speech, Oration, and Congress. I did not debate in college and I have been judging a couple-to-a-few debate and/or forensics tournaments every year since 2006.
General Approaches/SOP
First and foremost I am a Stock Issues voter and am most easily swayed when a team can defend the stock issues (Aff) or poke holes in any of the stock issues (Neg). I have little interest when it comes to Topicality or extra-Topicality and I will usually defer to the Aff unless the breach is so obvious as to be obscene (and argued so by the Neg)
With that in mind, I do expect that:
-The Aff team advocates something resolutional and has case text/a clearly articulated plan
-The Neg team acknowledges the burden of rejoinder, especially important when weighing dropped arguments or why Aff plan or case is undesirable or worse than an alternative
Speech/Mechanics and Comportment
-Speech should be clear regardless of speed (I will simply put my pen down and stop flowing if I can’t understand someone in the round) and I may make a visual or auditory cue to note that I can’t understand you
-Cross Examination should not be unnecessarily combative or nasty but otherwise I’m generally along for the ride
-Prep time will not be policed by me.
Argumentation
Keeping in my mind my philosophy as a Stock Issues judge, I will entertain a few things and do my most to yield to debaters’ preferences for arguments because, simply, this round is not all about me (I think the experience should be fun and educational for all involved). With that said, while I don’t particularly care for the following I will entertain if concisely and clearly argued:
-Counter-Plans can be useful and appropriate. CPs can be Topical but overall should compete with the Aff
-I have less patience for Kritiks as they often times in my opinion lead to less clash/debate/education in the round but I have heard some compelling kritiks before. Make sure that these are clearly argued (you don’t have to hold my hand but some philosophical kritiks can be a little esoteric even for a former L-D debater)
-DAs are fine and I’ll even hear generic DAs or alternate causality arguments provided they are well-reasoned or sound in logic or come with link cards.
-I have little patience for Theory but again don’t feel compelled to hold my hand if you go down that avenue. Just make the argument concise and move on
Miscellany/Final Thoughts
-Impact calculus please and thanks
-Framework is also important and I will entertain why I should adopt one perspective over another if the argument is compelling, delved into, and appropriate for what has been discussed in the round
-Clearly defined Permutations are your friend, and I will weigh accordingly
-I am less impressed by the Aff or Neg reading 8 or 9 cards and more impressed with superior analysis and catching mistakes that the other team made. Depth over breadth, folks
-99% of the time I’m not asking for evidence after the round if I can help it
-I have little to no patience for squirrelly/out of this world arguments or kritiks. The team with sounder evidence, quicker thinker, and fallacy-free logic will almost always win my vote (avoiding straw-man arguments gets extra credit!)
I am an assistant coach at Blue Valley North High School and I debated for 4 years at Campus High School. I have not judged that many rounds on this topic yet so I don't know a whole lot about it.
Debate is primarily a communication activity, which means if I cannot understand you because you are not speaking clearly or are not presenting your arguments in an organized manner, I probably won't be able to write them down. The line-by-line format will give your arguments a lot more credibility to me because it makes the debate significantly easier to follow. Also don't read into your computer, it makes it harder to understand and is annoying to me. An argument requires a claim and a warrant, just saying "extend the x piece of evidence" is not an argument.
Topicality is always a voting issue to me. Competiting interpretations makes the most sense to me. Both teams should have an offensive reason why their interpretation of the resolution is the best for debate. I think the aff should have a topical plan text, but if not they need an interpretation of the resolution that allows for their argument. The more specific the t argument is, the more likely I am to vote for it (please don't read "substantial must be 20%").
Ultimately I believe the job of the neg team is to prove the aff is a bad idea. Counterplans and DAs are my favorite kinds of debates, impact turns are fun, and Ks get the job done if you explain them well enough for me to understand what it is and how it has a specific link to the plan. Arguing against the case is necessary to win 99% of the time.
Last thing I'll put is the more in depth the debate, the better it is in my opinion. Don't read a bunch of weak arguments and go for the thing the other team answers the least, but rather develop your arguments throughout the round to make them stronger.
Contact Info:
jzuckerman@glenbrook225.org
gbsdebatelovesdocs@gmail.com
Questions/comments:
If you contact me for feedback, please CC your coach in the email or I will not respond.
Current School:
Glenbrook South
Prior Schools:
Glenbrook North, 18-23
Blue Valley Southwest, 10-18
Blue Valley North, 04-10
Greenhill Disclaimer:
–I did not work a camp this summer and thus have little familiarity with topic specific terminology, mechanisms, or the basic t arguments. Please take that into account.
-I spent the past 2-3 years working with students in congressional debate and novice policy.
-Don't assume I know as much as you do about how the economy works.
General Disclaimer:
–Slow down, care about clarity, and have speech docs in a usable format that both teams can use. Manage your own prep and start the debate on time.
–I don’t know anything about non-policy arguments. I err neg on the importance of being topical.
–I am not qualified to judge a debate based on things taking place outside of the round.
–On a scale of evidence versus in round performance, I slightly learn towards the performance.