Claremont Bargain Belt Invitational
2018
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Claremont,
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Tex Acosta
Citrus Valley
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Pamela Alster-Jahrmarkt
Valley International Prep
None
Leena Bashir
Redlands
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Agnes Bucklew
Yucaipa
None
Jonathan Budner
El Roble
8 rounds
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Michael Carden
Beverly Hills
None
Soo Yeon Cho
Claremont
None
jim ehrenberg
Valley International Prep
8 rounds
None
Allison Evans
Claremont
8 rounds
None
Amy Galst
Beverly Hills
8 rounds
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Amy Galst
Hawthorne Rodeo
None
Jordan Geller
Hawthorne Rodeo
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Jordan Geller
Beverly Hills
8 rounds
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Carlos Granda
Velasquez
None
Last changed on
Mon October 21, 2019 at 5:19 AM PDT
Sixth year parent judge for New Roads, which is my only debate experience. I am, however, familiar with argument as an attorney for more than 30 years with lots of trials, arbitrations, administrative hearings and oral arguments in appellate courts. You could say I argue for a living.
I am most familiar with Parli and LD. I’m old, with slow ears, so don’t spread. Speak clearly and enunciate. Theory, Kritik and other more technical forms of debate are fine, but only if you really explain your position. All too often the punch of these arguments is lost without a full, complete and thorough explanation truly supporting the point being made. Don’t rely on debate jargon or buzzwords. Likewise, explain why your proposed framework for how I should decide the round makes sense.
Over all I am looking for the most compelling argument. This can be several smaller points, or one or two very strong points. Most of all, always explain how your arguments relate to the topic in question.
Andres Guerrero
CVHS Independent
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Carrie Guo
Claremont
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Giovanni Guzman
Arroyo
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Elaina Houchens
Yucaipa
None
Sommer Janssen
Beverly Mann
None
Rebecca Kornbluh
Claremont
8 rounds
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Olga Kuzmina
Beverly Mann
None
Iain Lampert
Valley International Prep
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Tue January 2, 2024 at 10:10 AM CDT
1) I like watching debates that would inspire an average student who doesn't do debate to join the activity, or an average parent/guardian judge to urge their student to join.
2) Everybody in the round should be able to watch back a recording of the round and be able to understand what was going on. In other words, don't intentionally run arguments that your opponents won't understand.
3) While developing the skills to win the game on the circuit is certainly laudable--because of debate, I now listen to everything on x2 speed--I don't enjoy watching most circuit debates. I prefer debaters to hover around 200-250 words per minute. Choose quality arguments instead of gish galloping around the flow, and collapse on your one or two best pieces of offense. Weigh those key arguments against your opponent's, taking them at their highest ground.
3) Don't make claims that your evidence doesn't support. Powertagging is bad scholarship. If I call for a piece of evidence and see that it is powertagged, I will intervene.
4) I am more likely to intervene in a theory-level debate than a case-level debate. If you tell me that your opponents' practices are making the activity worse, I will consider their practices in the context of what I know about the activity. I am open to my mind being changed on these issues; my knowledge of the activity is limited. However, I am biased against evaluating what I see as frivolous theory arguments or tricks.
5) Tell me where I should be flowing at all times. If you don't tell me, I may mess up.
6) I don't find rudeness to be a persuasive rhetorical tool. You can be an incredibly effective debater and advocate while focusing on your opponent's arguments, not their personal deficiencies.
7) It's helpful to acknowledge where your opponents may be winning. Give me a permission structure to believe some of their arguments but still vote for you. "Even if..." "The tiebreaker is..."
Lee LaVanway
Valley International Prep
None
Brigitte Lifson
Beverly Hills
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Sun December 6, 2020 at 6:03 AM PDT
I am a parent judge. I’ve not formally trained to judge but have learned from experience and look forward to learning more.
How you conduct yourself and treat others is very important. Be courteous, respectful, fair to your opponents, and professional. I have sometimes given, and thankfully not yet docked, points for this.
We can't always control every aspect of our environment but, particularly if we’re online, do your best to eliminate distractions so focus is not pulled from the speaker.
I understand fast talking due to time or nervousness but I prefer normal speed so everyone can hear and grasp what is being said.
Assume I know nothing about your topic and make your case clear to me. Prove your assertions – be logical, reasonable, and name your sources.
Use this experience to practice using your voice and flexing your perspective and personal style; it is what makes you unique. The fact that you’re here is impressive… own it!
Brigitte Lifson
Hawthorne Rodeo
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Sun December 6, 2020 at 6:03 AM PDT
I am a parent judge. I’ve not formally trained to judge but have learned from experience and look forward to learning more.
How you conduct yourself and treat others is very important. Be courteous, respectful, fair to your opponents, and professional. I have sometimes given, and thankfully not yet docked, points for this.
We can't always control every aspect of our environment but, particularly if we’re online, do your best to eliminate distractions so focus is not pulled from the speaker.
I understand fast talking due to time or nervousness but I prefer normal speed so everyone can hear and grasp what is being said.
Assume I know nothing about your topic and make your case clear to me. Prove your assertions – be logical, reasonable, and name your sources.
Use this experience to practice using your voice and flexing your perspective and personal style; it is what makes you unique. The fact that you’re here is impressive… own it!
Colleen Lynch
Beverly Mann
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alan mcdonald
Claremont
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Santiago Melchor
Cajon
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AJ Moore
Valley International Prep
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Fri February 9, 2024 at 1:36 AM PDT
My pronouns are he/they. While I have high school debate experience, you should treat me like a relatively lay judge.
I really rely on the flow to determine which arguments are still alive at the end of the round and how much weight those arguments have. That said, I'm only okay at flowing, so I'll need you to really signpost each argument. My experience is with Parliamentary debate so any vocabulary outside that event, and any argumentative structure outside of "tagline, warrant, link, impact" will be unfamiliar to me. Please compare/weigh impacts at the end.
I mostly award speaker points along the lines of argumentative clarity. If you're speaking too fast I'll ask you to slow down.
I'm open to disagreements on framework but wary of some framework arguments/T-shells/tricot etc that can be inaccessible and intimidating to debate against. So, if you're gonna run a framework argument, use extremely accessible language. Someone with no debate experience should be able to understand what you think is problematic about your opponent's interpretation and why agreeing with you makes the round more fair for everyone involved. Additionally, unless your opponents' framework has shut you out of the debate almost entirely, your argument on framework should seamlessly transition to your actual case. I generally don't want to give someone the win because of a framework argument alone.
You can run theory/Ks/whatever, but, as is the case above, I need you to make it easy for me to understand. Theory is fun, but I am receptive to arguments about the inaccessibility of theory, mostly because I myself often don't understand it very well!
If the theory/K/etc you run is grounded in or propagates a hateful ideology, it is highly unlikely you will win the round.
If you have any clarifying questions about my paradigm, or about the rules and procedures of the round, feel free to ask! I'll try to answer as best I can :)
email is arijmoore@gmail.com
Trish Morton
Valley International Prep
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Sarah Nation
Claremont
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Jodie Patterson
Bonita
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Jonas Poggi
Redlands East Valley
8 rounds
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Sat February 18, 2023 at 6:39 AM EDT
Hello! My name is Jonas, I'm currently a coach for Walt Whitman High School. I have 4 years of HS debate experience (mostly Parli with a bit of PF), 4ish years of collegiate debate experience (British Parli and APDA), and 3ish years of coaching and judging experience (Parli, Congress, and PF).
I'll flow all your arguments, just make sure that you explain to me what your argument is, how it's relevant to the debate, and why it's important. If you want me to vote for you, have clear link work and explicit weighing of your impacts. If you tell me that "x" is the most important issue in the round, I will vote on "x." If your opponents tell me that "y" is the most important issue in the round, then you need to tell me why I should vote on "x" instead of "y," or how you can win on both "x" and "y." If you tell me something is the most important issue, I will spend more time trying to find a ballot for you on that clash. If no teams tell me where I should be voting, I will be very sad.
I won't automatically vote on drops. You still have to prove why that arg is round winning and can outweigh wherever your opponents are closest to winning.
I don't have a preference for any specific types of arguments, but please make sure your arguments relate to the round! I'm probably not going to vote for something super high magnitude but also incredibly low probability (as long as there's some pushback on that arg). So if you impact out to nuke war when the topic is about international adoptions, and your opponents say "that's highly unlikely," I probably won't vote there. If you can convince me that there's some degree of probability, then I will vote for it.
Weighing is really important. If your weighing is clear and specific, I'm more likely to vote for you. Your weighing should also be comparative. Tell me how I should weigh your arguments, and be specific about what impact you want me to vote for. Please weigh across your clashes too (if you are winning on one clash, and your opponents are winning on another, explain why you winning your clash is more important than them winning their clash).
I'm fine with speed, but I might drop some args if you are fully spreading.
Unless your k is really good and really applicable, don't run it. Not a huge fan of theory debates.
Always be respectful of your opponents. Debate should be an educational space and I will dock your speaks if you are too mean.
Have fun!
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Two quick notes for the Feb PF topic:
- I don't want the round to devolve into just a back and forth about the importance of one or two statistics. Barring a glaring issue (i.e. date of the study, funding for authors, skewed methodology), I would much rather you spend your time focused on the logical warrants you can make regarding the original argument, or better yet weighing your impacts. If you hit me with a "EVEN IF you don't doubt the significance x card my opponents have, here's why we still outweigh," I will be quite happy.
- Similarly, I don't want the round devolving into whether or not a certain stat should apply because of confounding variables. I have noticed a lot of teams saying that their opponents' stats shouldn't apply because of x confounding variable, but then don't hold their own stats to the same accountability. Once again, I care more about the logical warranting you can use these cards for, and the weighing you can build off of the impacts.
Danielle Rascon
Village
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Michael Sherman
Valley International Prep
None
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Tue January 2, 2024 at 7:56 AM PDT
UPDATED 6/1/2022 NSDA Nationals Congress Update
I have been competing and judging in speech and debate for the past 16 years now. I did Parli and Public Forum in High School, and Parli, LD and Speech in College. I have judged all forms of High School Debate. Feel free to ask me more in depth questions in round if you don't understand a part of my philosophy.
Congress
Given that my background is in debate I tend to bring my debate biases into Congress. While I understand that this event is a mix of argumentation and stylistic speaking I don't think pretty speeches are enough to get you a high rank in the round. Overall I tend to judge Congress rounds based off of argument construction, style of delivery, clash with opponents, quality of evidence, and overall participation in the round. I tend to prefer arguments backed by cited sources and that are well reasoned. I do not prefer arguments that are mainly based in emotional appeals, purely rhetoric speeches usually get ranked low and typically earn you a 9. Be mindful of the speech you are giving. I think that sponsorship speeches should help lay the foundation for the round, I should hear your speech and have a full grasp of the bill, what it does, why it's important, and how it will fix the problems that exist in the squo. For clash speeches they should actually clash, show me that you paid attention to the round, and have good responses to your opponents. Crystallizations should be well organized and should be where you draw my conclusions for the round, I shouldn't be left with any doubts or questions.
POs will be ranked in the round based off of their efficiency in running and controlling the round. I expect to POs to be firm and well organized. Don't be afraid of cutting off speakers or being firm on time limits for questioning.
Public Forum
- I know how to flow and will flow.
- This means I require a road map.
- I need you to sign post and tell me which contention you are on. Use author/source names.
- I will vote on Ks. But this means that your K needs to have framework and an alt and solvency. If you run a K my threshold for voting on it is going to be high. I don't feel like there is enough time in PF to read a good K but I am more than willing to be open to it and be proven wrong. For anyone who hits a K in front of me 'Ks are cheating' is basically an auto loss in front of me.
- I will vote on theory. But this doesn't mean that I will vote for all theory. Theory in debate is supposed to move this activity forwards. Which means that theory about evidence will need to prove that there is actual abuse occurring in order for me to evaluate it. I think there should be theory in Public Forum because this event is still trying to figure itself out but I do not believe that all theory is good theory. And theory that is playing 'gotcha' is not good theory. Having good faith is arbitrary but I think that the arguments made in round will determine it. Feel free to ask questions.
- Be strategic and make good life choices.
- Impact calc is the best way to my ballot.
- I will vote on case turns.
- I will call for cards if it comes down to it.
Policy Debate
I tend to vote more for truth over tech. That being said, nothing makes me happier than being able to vote on T. I love hearing a good K. Spread fast if you want but at a certain point I will miss something if you are going top speed because I flow on paper, I do know how to flow I'm just not as fast as those on a laptop. Feel free to ask me any questions before round.
LD Debate
Fair warning it has been a few years since I have judged high level LD. Ask me questions if I'm judging you.
Framework
You do not win rounds if you win framework. You win that I judge the round via your framework. When it comes to framework I'm a bit odd and a bit old school. I function under the idea that Aff has the right to define the round. And if Neg wants to me to evaluate the round via their framework then they need to prove some sort of abuse.
Jon Shields
Claremont
8 rounds
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Eva Shinnerl
Redlands East Valley
Last changed on
Thu March 21, 2019 at 12:17 PM PDT
I am a lay judge with three years of experience. I judge multiple invitationals each year in southern California. In '17 and '18 I judged at Stanford Invitational, and in '17 I judged at State. I have judged many league tournaments over the years and twice judged CBSR league qualifiers. I judge all events: IE and debate.
Over the years I have learned that, when judging Parli, I prefer a logical, well-organized, well-paced case that builds without falling into the "information dump" trap. I am also suspicious of Parli debaters inventing statistics in round. If I am about to judge a Parli round you're in, please know that running a K is risky. You'll need a very good reason, one that enhances rather than diminishes the value and integrity of the debate. Educational value is paramount; your case needs to respect that, as well as your opponents.
Sarah Slanaker
Valley International Prep
None
Last changed on
Sat January 5, 2019 at 7:38 AM PDT
Background
Coach at New Roads School, Santa Monica, CA (2016-Present). MSPDP coach for a couple of years prior to New Roads.
Decorum
Keep in mind the spirit and purpose of this activity during round. Effective communication and politeness goes a long way. Being rude to another team will result in lower speaker points. Sexist, racist, xenophobic, etc rhetoric will not be tolerated and will also result in lower speaker points. If you have to wonder, chances are your evidence, etc may fit the bill. Then don't use it!
Speed
A notch below spreading is most enjoyable, but I’ll flow any speed.
Judging Arguments
I will try to keep my own experience and knowledge outside of the round. If an argument does not make sense, and is dropped, it may be considered a less significant argument because it just isn't convincing.
Framework
A clear framework is important because it dictates how I will judge a round. Make sure the framework is presented clearly and then remind me how you won.
Theory
Use of theory is great, but make it very clear how it relates to your argument. Don't simply read a pre-prepared statement and expect for me to make the connections while reviewing my flow.
Weighing
I will almost always default to probability over magnitude unless a strong rationale convinces me to do otherwise.
Speaker Points
Are determined by clarity of speeches, ability to respond to opponents during POIs, and general considerations of ethos and pathos.
Jessica Uy
Claremont
8 rounds
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Thomas Vavra
Pomona Catholic
8 rounds
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Ricardo Velasquez
Velasquez
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Andre Wakefield
Claremont
8 rounds
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Brian Walker
CVHS Independent
Last changed on
Thu September 7, 2017 at 12:39 PM PDT
I prefer that you remain cordial and respectful to both your opponents and the judge. I am ok with most argument as long as it makes some sort of sense. Please no Ks- relatively new to debate. I am don't have a lot of experience with speed. Some things that I look for in a debate:
- pointing out logical fallacies are always good
- Make sure not to cut off the other speaker in a rude manner in CX
- I'm fine with evidence swap as long as it's done in a timely manner
- Be prepared to provide evidence after the round because I may call for some
- Hypotheticals with no inherency don't fly in this zone
Good luck in the round!!!! :)
Mandy Wang
San Marino
None
Terry-Lynn Whitfield
Claremont
8 rounds
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Angie Wood
Pomona Catholic
8 rounds
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Kevin Xiao
Claremont
8 rounds
Last changed on
Thu January 16, 2020 at 1:54 PM PDT
I don't appreciate spreading.