please please PLEASE stop calling for so much evidence what kind of norm is this

**current thoughts on debate: i think the longer judges take to come to a decision the more incorrect their ballot is**

email: gantlasr@gmail.com

4 years PF @ canyon crest/carmel valley, also championed the prestigious and well-run del norte pf round robin w/ syon iain & maanas

all events:

if you're going to spread, i need the speech doc

no slurring pls and slow down for numerical stats

please no Ks

messy round = long wait for rfd, see above

explain any topic-specific terms clearly

PF specific:

-you're best served debating the way that you normally debate as i can understand pretty much everything within the realm of PF and can adapt to most styles

-that being said, a few things you should know (most important --> least):

i require everything to be frontlined in 2nd rebuttal to access case offense, not just turns - be strategic

dropped defense can go from rebuttal to ff

ideally, no theory/K/etc. i think these types of arguments aren't relevant in most PF rounds -- i have a low threshold for responses

ill probably call for cards but if there's anything you want to make sure i read, tell me to in your speech -- i only read highlights unless you tell me to read unhighlighted parts

misc:

preflow in your own time, show up to round & set up table tote ASAP, flip beforehand etc - please don't keep the tournament waiting

For speaks: if it's a really good round, expect 30s. otherwise, I tend to give out pretty average speaks. Default 25 if you're syon mansur or Yash gupta

if you have further questions, ask before round

Public Forum, like all forums, is a waste of time.

fourth year PF debater at Canyon Crest

please consider the following during your round:

- regarding behavior: I run the tournament; take that as you will

Novice/Middle School:

Did not debate the Catalonia topic, but have judged practice rounds for it, so any links must be thoroughly backed up and explained.

Off-time roadmaps are okay, just confirm with your opponents that they're okay with them too.

I've debated for 3 years at CCA, so:

- Yes, I will be flowing all of your speeches. No, I will not flow crossfire, so if anything important happens in crossfire, just bring it up in your next speech.

- I can handle speed, so if you want to speak quickly, go for it.

- SIGNPOST -- this is the surefire way to know that I will have counted your argument in that speech.

- I will judge the round based on whatever framework both teams agree on, so be sure to extend arguments and impacts (AND WEIGH THEM) in both Summary and Final Focus. If the framework is not agreed on, prove you win under both. I should not have to go back and determine what the most important points in the round are -- I expect you to weigh them for me.

- Anything said in Final Focus needs to have been brought up in Summary.

- If you are being unclear, I will put my pen down to signal that I am no longer flowing your arguments -- take that as a cue to clarify.

- Ultimately, treat me like a flay judge. It will mostly be tech over truth unless the argument is very clearly untrue.

- If you are rude during the round, expect very low speaks from me, even though I may give you the win. That being said, if you are being downright abusive, I will drop you.

Feel free to ask me questions about any more preferences you may want to be cleared up. Good luck!

"i think the longer judges take to come to a decision the more incorrect their ballot is"

- saikumar gantla

Carmel Valley/Canyon Crest '21; UCLA '25

Add me to the chain - syon.mansur@gmail.com

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be nice to each other!

Tech > Truth

I'll vote on anything as long as its warranted (no racist/sexist/etc. args)

Any offense you go for should have a link and impact extended in both summary and final

Second rebuttal needs to answer all offense

Defense is sticky

You can kick out of turns by conceding defense in the speech after

Weigh/meta weigh

Speed is chill

I appreciate it when you send docs

Not super experienced with progressive argumentation but I'm comfortable voting on everything. Make sure to explain stuff well and flesh out your extensions.

i really hate when ppl make casual conversation like "how was ur day" during cross, especially grand cross. id rather you j take prep or skip it. also when people count "3 2 1" before giving their speech.

feel free to ask me about my own debate history! i love talking about myself :)

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Specific to MSTOC '22

I have not been super involved in debate this year, meaning I've watched very few rounds and judged even fewer. I won't know much about the topic, especially early in the tournament-- make sure to explain well and explain acronyms/jargon. I also probably can't handle speed to the same level as before (though I doubt this will be an issue). Good luck and remember you're here to have fun!!

Conflicts: Carmel Valley, Canyon Crest, Pacific Trails, Del Mar Montessori

!!! IF THE SECOND-SPEAKING SIDE CALLS FOR EVIDENCE OR TAKES PREP TIME BEFORE BOTH CASES ARE READ, THEY WILL BE IMMEDIATELY DROPPED ON MY BALLOT. NO EXCEPTIONS.

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Hi, I'm Pratik. I'm a former PF debater from Canyon Crest, now studying at UC Berkeley. (class of '23)

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TLDR: Read the bold (but you should read everything if you have time). Also, these announcements:

*2020-2021 SEASON: Most presentational stuff in my paradigm won't apply because of remote debates so ignore those. BUT, the remote nature means you will have to speak more clearly than in an in-person debate.

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How I judge:

- I consider myself a really basic, no-frills debater and judge, which means I would prefer the typical definitions/framework/contentions debate. I won't understand any policy/LD mumbo jumbo, and will never accept copies of your case/speech doc/etc.

- 80% flow, 20% speaking/presentation. As a general rule, better debaters tend to be better speakers. I have a big soft spot for 'flay' teams and rounds so if going fast isn't your thing, don't sweat it! It'll also boost your speaks for prelims. In elims, I tend to be more flow- and argumentation-heavy.

- I don't flow crossfire, or factor it in my decision. Use crossfire to trap your opponents and expose gaps in their arguments. Elaborate on your team's crossfire discoveries in the following speech.

- I will disclose unless it is too close to call on the flow. I will also give a (mostly) oral RFD after round unless we are running late. If either case occurs, expect a lengthy written RFD. You are always free to talk to me or ask for my email after round.

Other rules:

- I prefer speaking speed to be <200 words/min but can probably handle up to 225. Above 225, I won't be able to flow effectively, and 300+ is considered spreading. If I can't flow something you said because you were too fast, and end up dropping it or voting against it, that's on you, not me.

- No calling for evidence/running prep until both cases are read. Also, please don't slow down the flow of the debate by calling for evidence all the dang time.

- No using prep time before cross.

- Don't abuse offtime roadmaps. Keep roadmaps to 5 seconds if you want to use them offtime. However, ONTIME road maps/signposting are greatly encouraged and highly recommended (see "How to win").

- 5% grace period on speeches to wrap things up. If your opponents are being abusive with time, let me know.

- After the round, I may ask for cards. Keep them ready!

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How to win:

- The 4 Cs: Be clear, concise, convincing, and confident. That's it. Everything else I say here falls under one of those.

- SIGNPOST! Please make my flow organized. Use roadmaps before/at the start of your speech and number your topics. (Ex. "My opponent's first contention was ___. I have three responses. First...")

- CLEAR, RELEVANT VOTER ISSUES IN FINAL FOCUS. If the debate is super messy, then I may just only factor your Final Focus speeches in my decision.

- Have good posture and delivery. Don't hunch over your paper/laptop in your delivery; look at me as much as you can while giving your speech. Remember, your speaks DO matter to me more than the average circuit judge.

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How to lose:

- I will instantly give your team a loss and tank your speaks if you are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, or otherwise egregiously exclusionary.

- Be rude to me, your opponents, or anyone else participating in or managing the tournament.

- Slur/mumble/speak in a way that I cannot understand and flow what you're saying. Spreading (talking in excess of 300 words/min for me) will be an instant loss and 25 speaks.

- Bring up new evidence in Final Focus. Only concepts expressed in Summary Speech can be expressed in Final Focus. The only exception is if your opponents dropped rebuttal defense in their Summary Speech.

- Fidget/fumble on or off the podium.

- Break tournament rules.

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If you think your opponents are breaking the rules:

- Stop the round IMMEDIATELY (not after the round ends) and notify me. I will take appropriate action. I would prefer to have both sides present during a conflict, but if it is something you NEED to speak to me in private about (without your opponents around), please request not to disclose after round.

- The longer you wait until after the round to notify me of any wrongdoing, the less I can do about it. I will NEVER accept claims of a violation without evidence unless I noticed it too.

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Speaking/presentation scale (updated 11/17/20):

NOTE: This score has NOTHING to do with the quality of your arguments.

25 or less: Rule violation, discrimination, spreading, etc.

26: Rudeness, I didn't understand anything you were saying, frequent pauses, monotony, distracting fidgeting, etc.

27: No droppable offenses, but below average.

28: Average.

29: You're VERY good, and only had a few errors that only minorly impacted your delivery.

30: Basically impossible to achieve from me.

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Thanks for reading this really long paradigm! Let me know if you have any questions before the round starts.

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PSA: Spreading, common in circuit LD and policy, is contrary to the purpose of debate because debate's main objective should be to stimulate discourse in forums all over the US and abroad. Spreading hinders any further discourse by strategically and unfairly stuffing arguments and winning off technicalities, making it inaccessible to a larger audience and lowering any chances of real discourse happening.

wHat Is pUbLic ForUM?

I vOtE oN CrOSs aNd sPeAkS

Here's my actual paradigm:

-I've debated PF for 2 years at Canyon Crest

-I am a tabula rasa judge, but if an argument is offensive or false, I will most likely drop it. I also will prefer arguments that aren't theory or Ks. Other than that, any argument is fine, so be creative!

-Any speaking speed is fine, but I may not catch some stuff if you spread or get close to spreading. However, Don't sacrifice clarity for speed.

-EVERYTHING in final focus must be said in summary. Have a clear RFD/voters that should be laid out in FF. Make sure to weigh.

-Road Maps, Sing Posts, Impact Calculus.

-When extending, extend claim, warrant and impact. Extend cards with the author, date, and tagline. Make sure not to extend through ink, and call out your opponents if they do this.

-I won't be flowing during cross, but I'll be paying attention. If something important is brought up, I WON'T write it down, so make sure to bring it up in your next speech.

-Call out your opponents in your speeches if they're breaking the rules, but I will probably notice. If you are breaking the rules, you will either lose or I won't like you (depending on the severity). I won't call for evidence unless there is a dispute over it or I find it important for the RFD.

-Time your own speeches and prep

-Don't take ten years to find a card. Please hurry up or you will most definitely lose speaks. Look at cards during prep, not cross.

-Higher speaks for puns and other jokes, and maybe memes. Roasting in cross is also cool, as long as its not too offensive or confusing.

-Lastly, RELAX and HAVE FUN!

I have been doing LD for 2 years, I'm a sophomore. I have a decent understanding of all events but i only do LD.

Feel free to read at whatever speed you like if you're gonna spread then send your case to me.

For speaks remember the difference between being funny and just being a jerk and you'll get 27+. Anything unethical (like falsifying evidence, saying you refuted something you didn't refute) and you will get 20 speaks and lose. If you bring me food +5 speaks.

I am not a big fan of lay debate if you want you can be lay but its not gonna get you a W your args will.

Make sure you extend args if you don't extend it doesn't apply. When you extend just say extend cont 3 don't explain the arg again if you do you're wasting time. If you drop something it is gone don't try to say you actually did refute it I'll just get annoyed and lower your speaks.

Don't run stuff from some random backfile that you don't understand.

Don't forget to tell me how I should weigh everything in the round.

FW: I like fw debates its interesting.

Theory: I love theory you can run whatever theory you want and I will be very very happy!!!!!

Kritiks: I like kritiks and want to learn more about them. I've written a few and refuted a few.

any questions email me: sophiateglia@gmail.com

Sam Xiong

Debated 4 years LD for Canyon Crest '20, not debating at Dartmouth '24

ONLINE: Would highly prefer email chain over NSDA Campus upload if possible

Email chain:

xiongs321@gmail.com

I am not the best at flowing. If you want to win, please please slow down on arguments you want me to actually evaluate, especially for denser arguments and analytics not on the doc. SIGNPOST

In the absence of arguments claiming otherwise, i will default to these:

neg presumption

tech > truth

comparative worlds

competing interps, rvis bad, drop the debater

fairness and education are voters

debate is probably a good activity but I can be convinced otherwise

T and Theory are same layer

Metatheory above theory

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Not really biased against anything except frivolous T/Theory and tricks, I will vote on it but I may require a higher threshold and your speaks may take a hit.

Feel free to run everything, but just please tell me how to evaluate, weigh, and collapse.

K's are great, but don't assume I know all the lit and make sure you're clear and understandable, especially for more complicated/obscure ones.

I lean more than two condo is probably bad.

Once again, please explain stuff in your own words, weigh, slow down and emphasize points etc.

Be respectful, don't be offensive.

Hello! I'm currently a junior at UCSD. I've debated PF for 4 years and LD for 2 years back in high school(Canyon Crest/Carmel Valley - graduated in 2018), mostly at lay tournaments but I do have circuit PF experience(I guess I would describe myself as the average "flay" judge).

I don't like to impose too many guidelines on how rounds should go, but here are some things to keep in mind:

Speed is fine, but if you do choose to spread, I need the speech docs.

I'm pretty flexible with any argument that you run(except for theory/Ks/tricks and stuff like that); just make sure you explain it clearly with weighing and signposting :)

Please don't be rude in crossfire/cross-ex.

Please no new information in final focus :)

Don't be afraid to ask me questions before/after the round! And most importantly, have fun!!!

**UPDATE: I have not judged debate since Cal 2022. If you want to win, please start at 60% of your top speed and during rebuttals and please slow down on arguments you want me to actually evaluate. I swear nobody actually reads this so if you do read this, please tell me you read this before round and i will give u +0.5 speaker points.

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the most important thing of all: i am annoyed by how often i get postrounded by debaters who expected me to vote on an argument that was very unclearly articulated / basically not explained at all. if you want to win with argument x, please invest some time in your speech to explain argument x.

in the absence of arguments claiming otherwise, i will default to these:

neg presumption

tech > truth

comparative worlds

competing interps, rvis bad, drop the debater

fairness is most definitely a voter, education may or may not be

debate is probably a good activity (i am very neutral towards this and can easily be convinced otherwise)

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background: canyon crest 20, duke 24

canyoncrestjy@gmail.com

please dont shake my hand

I debated 4 years of LD at Canyon Crest. I've done it all/tried everything out at one point or another -- policy, theory/tricks, nontopical, identity, high theory, etc. Thus, I care less about what you read and more about how you execute it.

Personally, I hated judge paradigms that said "i dont like x" or "i wont evaluate y" -- i believe this is your debate space, not mine.

i like fast debate -- slow debate is truly insufferable. this, however, is a double edged sword -- if you do fast debate terribly you will be punished for it.

there is a difference between being assertive and being an ass in cx

if you justify racism/genocide/bigotry good, you'll lose with the lowest speaks possible. if you lose to racism/genocide/bigotry good, please go home and reconsider if debate is for you.

things i like:

being a chiller, weighing your arguments, objectively winning the debate/doing anything that makes my job easier

things i dislike:

thanking me for being here, the phrase "off-time roadmap", the phrases " i stand in firm affirmation/negation", the phrase "Time starts in 3, 2, 1, now", a messy debate (this is different from a very close debate), 0 clash, vague/lack of signposting, using unnecessary strategies against novices/those obviously less skilled than you (this is your fastest ticket to the 25-26 speaker pt range)