Lily Ottinger Paradigm

Last changed 9/27 9:03A CDT

Email chain: lily.coaches.debate@gmail.com

About:

  • 4 years of high school policy debate at Shawnee Mission Northwest (2013-2017, Latin America, Oceans, Surveillance, China)
  • Current policy debater at the University of Kansas (2017-present, Healthcare, Executive Authority, Space, Alliances)

Top:

  • Preemptive apology for smiling in cross-x. It's just really weird to be stared at.
  • Do not make me judge death/suffering/extinction good arguments. Do not ask me to vote based on something that happened outside the debate.
  • I will give you a 29 if you show me that you’re smart. I might give you a 30 if I think you're the best debater at the tournament.

Framework:

  • Luv these debates. I've been on both sides, but recently I personally just read policy things. I'm more likely to vote aff on impact turns than most policy judges, but I do see a lot of value in the preservation of competition. Procedural fairness is sometimes an impact but affs are usually on the side of truth. Clash is a better impact than fairness imo.
  • TVAs don't have to solve the whole aff. TVAs with solvency advocates are lit.

Topicality:

  • Speaker point boost if your 2NC has a grammar argument.
  • If you're aff and going for reasonability, "race to the bottom" isn't super compelling. Make arguments about debatability instead, and explain in the context of the violation.
  • Case lists are good.
  • The presence of other negative positions is not defense to a ground argument. The aff being disclosed is not defense to a limits argument.

Counterplans- I like them

  • When people refer to counterplans by saying the letters "CP" out loud it makes me wish I were dead.
  • Counterplan theory is really cool and I like judging it.
  • As a human I think counterplans that advocate immediate, indefinite, non-plan action by the USFG is legit, but as a judge I'm chaotic neutral on all theory questions if there's an argument made about it.

Disads

  • Much like my comment about counterplans, please don't refer to these by saying the letters "DA."
  • I like politics disads a lot. This isn't ideological- I just think they're fun. Speaker point boost if you make arguments about the math behind polls

Ks

  • Explain how the alt solves the links and why the perm doesn't.
  • Affs should explain why "moots 1AC" is a bad model. Negs should explain why the links justify mooting the aff.
  • Case outweighs 2ARs are very persuasive. The neg can beat this with discrete impacts to specific links+impact framing.
  • Speaker point penalty if the 1AR drops fiat is illusory.

Lincoln-Douglas:

  • If there is no net benefit to a counterplan, presumption flips aff. This is a community standard. If you want the debate evaluated differently, make an argument about why.
  • I do not think permutations are cheating.
  • An argument is a claim and a warrant. If you say something that does not contain a warrant, I will not necessarily vote on it even if it's dropped. In the interest of preventing judge intervention, please say things that have warrants.
  • Most neg theory arguments I've watched would go away instantly if affs said "counter interpretation: we have to be topical."
  • RVIs do not make sense. Topicality is never a reason to vote affirmative. The fact that a counterplan is conditional is never offense for the negative.

Full Judging Record

Tournament Date Ev Rd Aff Neg Vote Result
NSDA Taiwan Members Invitational 10/10/2020 CX Quarte ADL TK FPS/KCI KT Neg Neg on a 3-0
NSDA Taiwan Members Invitational 10/10/2020 CX N-Quar KCI CY ADL WY Neg Neg on a 3-0
NSDA Taiwan Members Invitational 10/10/2020 CX R4 FPS TC ADL TK Neg
NSDA Taiwan Members Invitational 10/10/2020 CX R3 TaiAme LW FPS WC Aff
NSDA Taiwan Members Invitational 10/10/2020 CX R2 ADL YT IBST RC Aff
Mid America Cup 9/25/2020 Pol Octos Interlake Qian & Palanciuc Minneapolis South Niblett & Reehl Aff Aff on a 2-1
Mid America Cup 9/25/2020 Pol Double Minneapolis South Niblett & Reehl Interlake Zhao & Okahata Aff Aff on a 2-1
Mid America Cup 9/25/2020 Pol R3 Niles West Mahmud & Kostovetsky Interlake Ganesh & Cai Neg
Mid America Cup 9/25/2020 Pol R2 Interlake Zhao & Okahata Heights WA Aff
Mid America Cup 9/25/2020 Pol R1 Farmington Koperski & Freeburg Liberal Arts and Science Kwan & Miller Aff
National Speech and Debate Season Opener Hosted by UK 9/12/2020 PD V Double Liberal Arts and Science BR Glenbrook North BC Neg Neg on a 3-0
National Speech and Debate Season Opener Hosted by UK 9/12/2020 PD RS Octas McDonogh RS Calvert Hall BS Neg Neg on a 2-1
National Speech and Debate Season Opener Hosted by UK 9/12/2020 PD N R6 USN SC CK McClatchy SB Neg
National Speech and Debate Season Opener Hosted by UK 9/12/2020 PD V R5 Glenbrook North BM Head Royce KR Aff
National Speech and Debate Season Opener Hosted by UK 9/12/2020 PD V R4 Univ Of Chicago Lab KP Pittsburgh Central Catholic OH Aff
National Speech and Debate Season Opener Hosted by UK 9/12/2020 PD V R3 USN KC Liberal Arts and Science BR Neg
National Speech and Debate Season Opener Hosted by UK 9/12/2020 PD V R2 DC International AR Liberal Arts and Science KM Aff
National Speech and Debate Season Opener Hosted by UK 9/12/2020 PD V R1 Lexington TK Crossings Christian HK Aff
ADL Summer Camp Tournament 7/23/2020 NCX R3 FPS Ethan Huang & Joshua Cho FPS/DIS Sebastian Chan & Evan Tseng Aff
Golden Desert Debate Tournament at UNLV 2020 2/1/2020 VCX R6 Glenbrook South RH Gulliver Prep VL Aff
Golden Desert Debate Tournament at UNLV 2020 2/1/2020 VCX R5 Notre Dame AK Casady BH Neg
Golden Desert Debate Tournament at UNLV 2020 2/1/2020 VCX R4 Notre Dame PP Kent Denver AT Aff
Golden Desert Debate Tournament at UNLV 2020 2/1/2020 VCX R3 Westminster FK Fort Collins CK Aff
Golden Desert Debate Tournament at UNLV 2020 2/1/2020 VCX R2 Oak Hill CH Kent Denver CT Aff
Golden Desert Debate Tournament at UNLV 2020 2/1/2020 VCX R1 Univ Of Chicago Lab KN Westminster YL Neg
East Kansas District Tournament 12/13/2019 CX R3 S Tuohey & Jones J Zimmerman & Woodcock Neg Neg on a 2-1
East Kansas District Tournament 12/13/2019 CX R2 F McCarthy & Wallenburg S Smith & Shaw Aff Aff on a 2-1
KCKSNCFL Policy 12/6/2019 Var R5 Blue Valley West Verma & Bagga Shawnee Mission South Tuohey & Henderson Aff Neg on a 2-1
KCKSNCFL Policy 12/6/2019 Var R4 Blue Valley Southwest Wu & Ziegelman Shawnee Mission West Neal & Wright Aff Aff on a 3-0
KCKSNCFL Policy 12/6/2019 Var R3 Blue Valley Southwest Pieropan & Helixon Shawnee Mission East Lahovary & Henry Aff Aff on a 3-0
KCKSNCFL Policy 12/6/2019 Var R2 Blue Valley Southwest Sathish & Swanson Blue Valley West Mehta & Das Neg Neg on a 2-1
KCKSNCFL Policy 12/6/2019 Var R1 Piper Rice & Flory Shawnee Mission South Tran & Flassig Aff Aff on a 3-0
Aaron Thomas Memorial Invitational at Mill Valley 11/15/2019 DCI Semis Lansing Sr Atkins & Dawson Blue Valley Southwest Ziegelman Aff Aff on a 3-0
Aaron Thomas Memorial Invitational at Mill Valley 11/15/2019 DCI Qtrs Casady Henry & Barreto Shawnee Mission West McCarthy & Cathey Aff Aff on a 3-0
Aaron Thomas Memorial Invitational at Mill Valley 11/15/2019 Novice Qtrs Shawnee Mission South Albrecht & Dusin Bishop Seabury Dekat & Meschke Aff Neg on a 2-1
Aaron Thomas Memorial Invitational at Mill Valley 11/15/2019 DCI R5 Blue Valley West Jaguars Wang & Ahmed Blue Valley Southwest Syed & Khan Aff
Aaron Thomas Memorial Invitational at Mill Valley 11/15/2019 JV R4 Truman Weathers & Washington Shawnee Mission East Brown & Stueck Aff
Aaron Thomas Memorial Invitational at Mill Valley 11/15/2019 DCI R3 Lawrence Free State Ruland & Gutierrez Blue Valley Southwest Ziegelman Neg
Aaron Thomas Memorial Invitational at Mill Valley 11/15/2019 JV R2 Lansing Sr Leslie & DaMetz Sumner Andrade & Corral Aff
Aaron Thomas Memorial Invitational at Mill Valley 11/15/2019 DCI R1 Lawrence Racy Lansing Sr Atkins & Dawson Neg
Iowa Caucus Debates 10/25/2019 VCX Q Iowa City CW Edina AB Aff Aff on a 2-1
Iowa Caucus Debates 10/25/2019 VCX O Iowa City CW Minneapolis Washburn JK Aff Aff on a 3-0
Iowa Caucus Debates 10/25/2019 VCX R6 Iowa City West BL Edina SA Aff
Iowa Caucus Debates 10/25/2019 VCX R5 Minneapolis Washburn JK Edina LO Aff
Iowa Caucus Debates 10/25/2019 VCX R4 West Des Moines Valley SD SF Roosevelt WM Neg
Heart of Texas 10/18/2019 PD R6 Stevens Point Area Senior High (SPASH) GJ Winston Churchill MB Neg
Heart of Texas 10/18/2019 PD R5 Blue Valley Southwest SS Westside KS Neg
Heart of Texas 10/18/2019 PD R4 Carrollton School of the Sacred Heart CG Blue Valley Southwest HP Neg
Heart of Texas 10/18/2019 PD R3 Barstow MT Niles West BB Aff
Heart of Texas 10/18/2019 PD R2 Niles West DS Winston Churchill VA Aff
Heart of Texas 10/18/2019 PD R1 Coppell AK Harker JP Aff
NSDA Taiwan Invitational 10/11/2019 PF Final 516 525 Aff Aff on a 2-1
NSDA Taiwan Invitational 10/11/2019 OCX Quarte 811 814 Neg
NSDA Taiwan Invitational 10/11/2019 PF Octo 525 513 Aff
NSDA Taiwan Invitational 10/11/2019 OCX R4 810 801 Neg
NSDA Taiwan Invitational 10/11/2019 NCX Semi 707 709 Aff Aff on a 3-0
NSDA Taiwan Invitational 10/11/2019 OCX R3 815 813 Aff
NSDA Taiwan Invitational 10/11/2019 OCX R2 814 805 Aff
NSDA Taiwan Invitational 10/11/2019 OCX R1 816 817 Neg
ONW Debate Invitational 10/4/2019 DCI R5 6 Davidson & Vasquez 12 Ahmed & Ajmera Neg
ONW Debate Invitational 10/4/2019 DCI R1 12 Waghmode & Foster 22 Cook & Navarro Neg
Washburn Rural Debate Invitational 9/20/2019 VADB8 QFs Blue Valley West Jaguars MD Little Rock Central DF Aff Aff on a 2-1
Washburn Rural Debate Invitational 9/20/2019 VADB8 DOFs Lawrence DV Lawrence Free State BH Aff Neg on a 2-1
Washburn Rural Debate Invitational 9/20/2019 VADB8 R6 Shawnee Mission South FT Lawrence Free State HW Neg
Washburn Rural Debate Invitational 9/20/2019 VADB8 R5 Derby JW Wichita East WF Neg
Washburn Rural Debate Invitational 9/20/2019 VADB8 R3 Blue Valley Southwest SS Shawnee Mission South TH Aff
Washburn Rural Debate Invitational 9/20/2019 VADB8 R2 Shawnee Mission East HY Little Rock Central AR Neg
Washburn Rural Debate Invitational 9/20/2019 VADB8 R1 Shawnee Mission East CR Little Rock Central KG Aff
Jayhawk Debate Institute 3 Week 7/10/2019 3Wk Quarte BWD Dawson & Atkins BWD Verma & Das Aff Aff on a 2-1
Jayhawk Debate Institute 3 Week 7/10/2019 3Wk Octofi WMM Kautt & Basore SWH Khan & Ziegelman Neg Neg on a 3-0
Jayhawk Debate Institute 3 Week 7/10/2019 3Wk R6 WMM Janisch & Percival WMM Kautt & Basore Neg
Jayhawk Debate Institute 3 Week 7/10/2019 3Wk R3 WMM Huffman & Strickland BWD O'Donohue & Darby Aff
Jayhawk Debate Institute 2Week 7/3/2019 2Wk Finals Duff/Henry RZ Duff/Henry MW Aff Aff on a 4-1
Jayhawk Debate Institute 2Week 7/3/2019 2Wk R6 Fry/Saunders CY Esquivel/Scott SR Neg
Jayhawk Debate Institute 2Week 7/3/2019 2Wk R5 Duff/Henry MB Cerja/Willett RP Aff
Jayhawk Debate Institute 2Week 7/3/2019 2Wk R4 Duff/Henry FK Fry/Saunders KC Neg
Jayhawk Debate Institute 2Week 7/3/2019 2Wk R1 Fry/Saunders PB Cerja/Willett AA Aff
Three Trails District Tournament 12/7/2018 CX R5 112 120 Neg Neg on a 3-0
Three Trails District Tournament 12/7/2018 CX R4 107 123 Aff Aff on a 3-0
Three Trails District Tournament 12/7/2018 CX R3 105 108 Aff Aff on a 3-0
Three Trails District Tournament 12/7/2018 CX R2 109 119 Neg Neg on a 2-1
Three Trails District Tournament 12/7/2018 CX R1 121 104 Aff Aff on a 3-0
Shawnee Mission East 11/9/2018 DCI R3 Blue Valley North Dmitrienko & Mao Lawrence Davidson & Rose Aff
Blue Valley North Invitational 10/12/2018 Var Quarte Shawnee Mission West Wallenberg & McCarthy Blue Valley West Saiedian & Tallavajhala Neg Neg on a 3-0
Blue Valley North Invitational 10/12/2018 Var R5 Derby Nethercot & Reece Lansing Sr Kautt & LaPee Aff
Blue Valley North Invitational 10/12/2018 Var R3 Emporia Mose & Rosa Lawrence Free State Williams & Bellemere Aff
Blue Valley North Invitational 10/12/2018 Var R2 Blue Valley Southwest Swanson & Sathish Shawnee Mission West Wallenburg & Worthington Aff
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD Octas Loyola AO Arcadia JC Neg Aff on a 2-1
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD Doub Loyola SN Archbishop Mitty JP Neg Neg on a 3-0
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD Doub Harvard-Westlake NR Arcadia JC Neg Neg on a 2-1
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD R5 Harvard-Westlake JG Loyola BC Aff
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD R5 Dougherty Valley AR Loyola AO Neg
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD R4 Marlborough CL Archbishop Mitty IV Aff
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD R4 Harvard-Westlake JC Sage Hill TG Neg
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD R3 Harvard-Westlake AL Archbishop Mitty JP Neg
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD R3 Archbishop Mitty JL Sage Hill AA Aff
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD R2 Arcadia ML Harvard-Westlake JM Neg
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD R2 Marlborough EY Brentwood LE Aff
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD R1 Harvard-Westlake MP Marlborough LD Aff
Jack Howe Memorial Tournament 9/22/2018 TOCLD R1 Harvard-Westlake AG Loyola VC Aff
Jayhawk Debate Institute 7/4/2018 3Wk Rd5 Bier/Kennedy/Delph GL Bier/Kennedy/Delph YH Aff
Jayhawk Debate Institute 7/4/2018 3Wk Rd2 Bier/Kennedy/Delph SD Duff/Hartman/Martin SY Aff
Jayhawk Debate Institute 7/4/2018 3Wk Rd1 Bosch/Eisenstadt/Singleton BS Bier/Kennedy/Delph LC Neg
KCKSNCFL Policy Qualifier 12/1/2017 Var R5 BVN Mendelson & McMahon BVSW Lowe & Edwards Aff Aff on a 2-1
KCKSNCFL Policy Qualifier 12/1/2017 Var R4 ShaMis Rodriguez-Hanley & Colvin MilVal Babcock & Babcock Aff Aff on a 3-0
KCKSNCFL Policy Qualifier 12/1/2017 Var R3 Lans Woodcock & Atkins BVSW Hussaini & Holzer Neg Neg on a 3-0
Heart of Texas Invitational 10/13/2017 PD R4 Brophy CP GS Glenbrook South GS Aff
UMKC Summer Debate Institute 7/26/2017 VCX R5 Chase/Steiner EJ Chase/Steiner RS Neg
UMKC Summer Debate Institute 7/26/2017 VCX R4 Brennan/Solice WF Bates/Scott CR Neg
Jayhawk Debate Institute 7/5/2017 2Wk Octos Singleton/Zuckerman HT Coleman/Wefald TJ Neg Neg on a 3-0
Jayhawk Debate Institute 7/5/2017 2Wk R4 Cooper/Saunders SM Bajorek/Kirk SM Aff
Jayhawk Debate Institute 7/5/2017 2Wk R3 Kennedy/Welch BH Birzer/Oatman CH Neg