Tony Stauber Paradigm

Last changed 11/9 7:36A CDT

I’ve coached LD, PF and Congress for 8 years at Chanhassen High School in Minnesota. I am an attorney.

Updated 11/9/19


Lincoln Douglas

My entire career has been coaching at a school that does traditional-ish LD. If you want a judge with more experience in/sympathy for national-circuit-style debate, I would put me as a low pref--for no better reason than you might be disappointed with how I evaluate the round. If you are reading this, chances are rounds have already been paired and you are stuck with me. Sorry. I'll do the best I can.

If you only have a few minutes before the round and don't want to spend that time listening to my rambling I'd sum it up as follows:

Research, evidence, truth.


What I value about the activity of debate is the research and argument-creating process. I am aware of the variety of resources from which debaters can draw arguments and evidence, and I am not insensitive to the reasons why many choose to do so. However, I really disfavor debates that center around arguments and cases that I am well-aware you did not write. Stock K's, generic constructives, and canned CPs disappoint me as a coach and as an educator.

What disappoints me even more than running things that you did not research and write is when you run things that you do not understand. It doesn't take talent or care to write a punchy frontline and cut a card from Baudrillard's gibberish. I want to leave the round feeling like we have all come closer to understanding the truth, not running a race to the most obscure and convoluted.

I want to see good evidence. Please cite the author and the publication. Not all sources are equal. I expect your warrant to literally support the conclusion you state as your frontline. Sources aren't important just because somebody said them; credibility and persuasiveness rests upon credentials and, more importantly the author's logic. If you can't explain why author reaches conclusion X, you haven't created a complete warrant. If you are moving from an evidence warrant to an analytic warrant, you need to make that distinction; don't tell me the card supports your conclusion when it only does half the work. This goes for framework too. Your card doesn't say "the role of the ballot is rejecting oppression." The card says oppression is bad. You are saying that, therefore, the role of the ballot is to XYZ.

I will always be skeptical of cards about debate or written by debaters. I don't find forum or blog posts written by coaches, judges, or former debaters to be the kind of credible, disinterested evidence that we should be using in this activity.

Here is a more concrete list of the things that I do and do not want to see.

1. I don't read the wiki, I will not read your case as you run it, and making your case public ahead of the round does not give you license to run something abusive. Please don't run disclosure theory; I won't evaluate it.

2. I prefer quick and articulate over fast. I'm not adept at discerning spreading, and I will more likely let things fall through the cracks that remind you every 15 seconds to slow down or speak clearly. Your call though.

3. I like kritiks and think they are a good expression of what you can do in this activity, but not all kritiks link to the resolution, and I'm not going to go for bad links. This probably means that you'll need to do more work than just pulling up your camp backfiles and reading your stock will-to-power K.

4. I think formalized theory arguments dumb down debate.

5. I don't think plans are actually affirming, but I'd entertain somebody who wanted to change that perspective

6. Counterplans are cool.

7. Do not argue with me after the round. You're debating your opponent, you accept that I'm the expert. I assume that the losing team is going to say that I'm wrong.

8. I don't like performance or narrative. I'd prefer substance debate.

I'm not as grumpy as this paradigm makes me seem, and I am a qualified and experienced judge.

Public Forum
I coach IE as well as debate, and I specialize in Oratory and Extemp Speaking. My ideal PF round would have the content and argumentation of Extemp with the oratory skills of OO. That is my 30. Unfortunately, I know that a lot of teams sacrifice oratory skills to get in more information, and that is fine with me. Speak fast, but don’t get into LD/Policy territory.

I’m all about weighing. Rarely can a team eliminate all offense from their opponents, so this requires some sort of weighing metric. Magnitude = Probability x Scope. That how I teach my kids, but you can weigh however you’d like, just make sure you do it.
Things I hate in PF: 1) Supercharged impacts. I know that thermonuclear holocaust is a bigger impact than a loss in GDP, but that doesn’t mean that you can find a link from Public Subsidies to nuclear war. If it is a stretch, I will do my best to find a way to vote against it. 2) Complicated framework. Cost/Benefit is the default framework for PF. If you want to argue deontology, you are in the wrong event. That being said, I understand that different resolutions require certain limits on the debate. Be fair and don’t try to rule out arguments rather than debate them. 3) Assuming the judge will intervene. I’ve seen this run rampant in my local circuit—teams trying to refute their opponents by reading a card and then moving onto the next argument. I need you to tell me what to do with your arguments. I will do everything I can to stay completely out of the debate. If you need me to do your work for you, we’ll have a rough round.
Besides that, I am a straight-forward PF judge. Debate the issues in the resolution, don’t try any semantic hocus pocus.

Full Judging Record

Tournament Date Ev Rd Aff Neg Vote Result
MDTA JVNovice State Championship 12/6/2019 JVLD DOUBLE Minnetonka CL St. Croix Prep JA Neg Neg on a 2-1
MDTA JVNovice State Championship 12/6/2019 JVLD DOUBLE Minnetonka LP Hopkins AL Aff Aff on a 3-0
MDTA JVNovice State Championship 12/6/2019 JVLD R5 Mahtomedi TM Forest Lake KE Aff
MDTA JVNovice State Championship 12/6/2019 JVLD R5 Minnetonka KD St. Croix Prep AD Aff
MDTA JVNovice State Championship 12/6/2019 JVLD R4 Eagan KB Minnetonka SI Aff
MDTA JVNovice State Championship 12/6/2019 JVLD R4 Apple Valley JS St. Louis Park KQ Aff
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/8/2019 VLD Trip Success Academy Manhattan CE Cypress Woods AZ Neg Neg on a 3-0
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/8/2019 VLD R6 Evanston Twp SB St. Croix Prep JP Neg
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/8/2019 VLD R5 Isidore Newman DA Robbinsdale Armstrong LH Neg
Rosemount Irish Invitational 9/28/2019 NLD R5 Apple Valley SG St Francis LB Neg
Rosemount Irish Invitational 9/28/2019 VLD R3 Lakeville AE Eagan AK Neg
Rosemount Irish Invitational 9/28/2019 NLD R2 Eagan AOn Eden Prairie MA Neg
Rosemount Irish Invitational 9/28/2019 VLD R1 Edina MR Maple Grove EM Aff
Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/17/2018 VLD R5 Perry BT Cypress Bay IM Neg
Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/17/2018 VLD R4 Harrison EV Brookfield East NT Aff
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/2/2018 VLD R6 Lakeville South MH Eagan JB Neg
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/2/2018 VLD R4 New Trier CS Edina SC Neg
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/2/2018 VLD R3 Eastview JR Edina KS Neg
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/2/2018 VLD R2 Eastview SM Lakeville North AC Neg
John Edie Holiday Debates Hosted by The Blake School 12/15/2017 LD R5 Roseville Area DT Central Valley TO Neg
John Edie Holiday Debates Hosted by The Blake School 12/15/2017 LD R3 East Ridge MR Roseville Area EB Aff
John Edie Holiday Debates Hosted by The Blake School 12/15/2017 LD R2 East Ridge AR Lakeville North AC Neg
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD Qtrs Cape Fear MA Brookfield East NA Aff Aff on a 3-0
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD Octos Marlborough AJ Cypress Bay VS Aff Aff on a 2-1
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD R6 Bradley Tech AC Oakwood School - North Hollywood WA Neg
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD R6 Bradley Tech AP Oakwood School - North Hollywood AO Neg
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD R5 McDowell SK DuPont Manual PM Aff
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD R5 DuPont Manual AB Evanston Township LT Aff
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD R4 Oakwood School - North Hollywood SM DuPont Manual NL Aff
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD R4 Trinity Prep DF Harker AD Neg
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD R3 Brookfield East AS West Des Moines Valley LB Neg
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD R3 Harrison EL West Des Moines Valley CB Aff
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD R1 Cypress Bay VR West Broward MJ Aff
2016 Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/19/2016 JVLD R1 Brentwood HG Brookfield East SN Aff
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/3/2016 JVLD Octafi Northland Christian KE Lakeville North AV Aff Aff on a 3-0
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/3/2016 VLD R6 Dougherty Valley PT Lakeville South GG Aff
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/3/2016 VLD R5 West Des Moines Valley BG Lakeville South EH Aff
42nd Annual Harvard National Forensics Tournament 2/11/2016 VPF R6 Puyallup HK North Allegheny WX Aff
42nd Annual Harvard National Forensics Tournament 2/11/2016 VPF R6 Regis DV NSU University CM Aff
42nd Annual Harvard National Forensics Tournament 2/11/2016 VPF R4 Ridgewood AC Byram Hills OC Aff
42nd Annual Harvard National Forensics Tournament 2/11/2016 VPF R4 Maspeth GP Red Mountain BG Aff
42nd Annual Harvard National Forensics Tournament 2/11/2016 VPF R3 Evanston CA Timothy Christian ML Aff
42nd Annual Harvard National Forensics Tournament 2/11/2016 VPF R3 Regis CM Nightingale Bamford MC Aff
John Edie Holiday Tournament Hosted by Blake 12/18/2015 PF R2 Cranbrook Upper PP Eagan PS Neg
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/6/2015 VLD Round Mountain View KX American Heritage AD Neg
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/6/2015 VLD Round Barrington RJ Eagan JL Aff
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/6/2015 VLD Round Eagan NM Harrison SR Neg
Apple Valley MinneApple Debate 11/6/2015 VLD Round Appleton East JV Presentation MS Neg
John Edie Holiday Tournament at Blake 12/19/2014 LD R2 Okoboji-Spirit Lake JH Whitefish Bay AP Neg
John Edie Holiday Tournament at Blake 12/19/2014 LD R2 St. Louis Park RS Walt Whitman LK Neg
John Edie Holiday Tournament at Blake 12/19/2014 LD R1 Hopkins SG Scarsdale JN Neg
John Edie Holiday Tournament at Blake 12/19/2014 LD R1 Whitefish Bay SR William G. Enloe WS Aff
The Glenbrooks 11/22/2014 JVLD Octos Lake Highland Prep AA Harrison MZ Neg Neg on a 2-1
The Glenbrooks 11/22/2014 JVLD Double Munster TD Lakeville South AL Aff Aff on a 2-1
The Glenbrooks 11/22/2014 JVLD R5 Barrington TC Dowling Catholic JO Neg
The Glenbrooks 11/22/2014 JVLD R5 Scarsdale ZG Hockaday ED Aff
The Glenbrooks 11/22/2014 JVLD R3 West Des Moines Valley JK Vestavia Hills GC Aff
The Glenbrooks 11/22/2014 JVLD R3 Evanston GH Lakeville North NG Aff
The Glenbrooks 11/22/2014 JVLD R2 Brookfield East CG West Des Moines Valley SC Neg
The Glenbrooks 11/22/2014 JVLD R2 Lakeville South MC Harvard-Westlake AG Neg